Wow! Aweome. Very suprised Apple allowed it.
But very nice. A lot fast than safari on Edge, and 3G connection for me.
But very nice. A lot fast than safari on Edge, and 3G connection for me.
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Opera Mini Approved for Inclusion in App Store
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why did you all wait for it to show up in the us-store? you can open up international accounts if you just download free stuff.
Quite fast on edge...as others have said, and has really added some life to my aging iphone. I think with a few updates this will bring about some much needed competition and could be the begining of the iphone browser wars. Ok apple now your turn...
Written from opera mini with crap edge.
Written from opera mini with crap edge.
They must have just taken the version they've written for android/symbian or whatever and ported it with the minimum amount of recode for iPhone ...
The total disregard to Apples UI standards... non native copy/paste support, no loupe, bad font/page rendering/hopeless zooming etc
Not to mention they're man-in-the-middle approach to website rendering especially when concerning SSL ... i simply don't want Opera being able to capture (even if they don't log it, i simply don't want to open up that vulnerability) SSL traffic.
I could have seen Apple legitimately refusing this app publicly on the basis of total non-compliance to standards and user trained experience.
Using this app totally pulls you out of the iPhone world and i won't be using it.
Poor effort Opera... you might be the 1st non-Apple browser allowed in the AppStore but you REALLY missed the mark and the opportunity afforded you ... it could have made you relevant again .... pity
The total disregard to Apples UI standards... non native copy/paste support, no loupe, bad font/page rendering/hopeless zooming etc
Not to mention they're man-in-the-middle approach to website rendering especially when concerning SSL ... i simply don't want Opera being able to capture (even if they don't log it, i simply don't want to open up that vulnerability) SSL traffic.
I could have seen Apple legitimately refusing this app publicly on the basis of total non-compliance to standards and user trained experience.
Using this app totally pulls you out of the iPhone world and i won't be using it.
Poor effort Opera... you might be the 1st non-Apple browser allowed in the AppStore but you REALLY missed the mark and the opportunity afforded you ... it could have made you relevant again .... pity
Opera has diregarded UI giodline for a looong time. A least firefox has Strata for Windows, Tango for Linux and whatever they call it for Mac OSX.
Apple is becoming a mess!!
Apple just approved Opera Mini, because their browser stinks, just approved Opera Web Browser so they can't be behind of the other more open, cheaper and powerful phones! While in other phones like symbian and java, there's lot and lot more usefull apps, in iPhone there's plenty of joke apps. If you want to do real work with a phone, receiving emails, reading some words, excell, share files fast and with blueetooh, or doing a simples video conference, iPhone is an huge step behind.
But apple sells everything it vomits, even if it's a mess, but that won't last longer, I already see a slow down in Mac OS X development, no Open CL optimizaton, and costumer problems are not being sold as used to be some years ago, just look for macbook Bluetooth problems and you will see thousands of post in Apple Web Site support forum, with no official answer from Apple.
In theses days Apple is becoming more and more just profit and less and less quality, it must be a balance between both to Apple survive. Oh I own 4 macs, and iPhone is so bad that Nokia 5800 for 1/3 of the price just can't even compare, Nokia 5800, from the actual larger phone company in the World, that still is Nokia, sell lot more than iPhones, it has GPS with build free maps for all around the world, with voice oriented, Bluetooth file sharing, Java, Flash, VIDEO CALL!, FLASH, HANDWRITE RECOGNITION, lot longer battery life, iPhone is so bad in battery, oh, and by the way I even can change the battery, etc etc,.
I used to love Apple, that's why I just own Macs, but now days, even if Mac OS X still being the best OS, not the same with Apple phones, and the gap between OS X and Windows 7 is just becoming too much small...
Apple just approved Opera Mini, because their browser stinks, just approved Opera Web Browser so they can't be behind of the other more open, cheaper and powerful phones! While in other phones like symbian and java, there's lot and lot more usefull apps, in iPhone there's plenty of joke apps. If you want to do real work with a phone, receiving emails, reading some words, excell, share files fast and with blueetooh, or doing a simples video conference, iPhone is an huge step behind.
But apple sells everything it vomits, even if it's a mess, but that won't last longer, I already see a slow down in Mac OS X development, no Open CL optimizaton, and costumer problems are not being sold as used to be some years ago, just look for macbook Bluetooth problems and you will see thousands of post in Apple Web Site support forum, with no official answer from Apple.
In theses days Apple is becoming more and more just profit and less and less quality, it must be a balance between both to Apple survive. Oh I own 4 macs, and iPhone is so bad that Nokia 5800 for 1/3 of the price just can't even compare, Nokia 5800, from the actual larger phone company in the World, that still is Nokia, sell lot more than iPhones, it has GPS with build free maps for all around the world, with voice oriented, Bluetooth file sharing, Java, Flash, VIDEO CALL!, FLASH, HANDWRITE RECOGNITION, lot longer battery life, iPhone is so bad in battery, oh, and by the way I even can change the battery, etc etc,.
I used to love Apple, that's why I just own Macs, but now days, even if Mac OS X still being the best OS, not the same with Apple phones, and the gap between OS X and Windows 7 is just becoming too much small...
I don't think I've seen so many assumptions and logical fallacies in one post, not even by MacRumours number one!
From a web developers perspective, this thing is terrible. And from a normal perspective, this thing is also terrible. I know it is a first version that they most likely assumed wouldn't get approved but I just can't use this.
It lacks features that you would expect on a touchscreen browser like pinch to zoom and does not feel like a normal iPhone or iPod Touch experience. When scrolling to the edges it simply stops and does not snap back as you would expect.
The major problem that I can see is to do with developers designing iPhone-specific web apps or iPhone-formatted websites. It doesn't support position:fixed, but neither does mobile safari However the javascript scrolling scripts do not work either. Many web apps use this but the code would have to be rewritten just to work on opera.
But then this poses another problem - how do you identify the browser? The useragent for opera mini does not even include the device name, I'm assuming because everything is done on the server-side for optimization. This means that you can't identify opera mini on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Most sites these days (engadget, gizmodo, lifehacker, tuaw etc.) redirect to mobile versions by identifying the device in the user agent. This does not work in opera mini and as a result you get the full version. Now developers could then identify it as opera mini but then you get the problem of other mobile devices using opera mini getting an iPhone version of the site or iPhone users getting a even more reduced mobile version.
Using this browser is bad for everyone. Please don't use it.
It lacks features that you would expect on a touchscreen browser like pinch to zoom and does not feel like a normal iPhone or iPod Touch experience. When scrolling to the edges it simply stops and does not snap back as you would expect.
The major problem that I can see is to do with developers designing iPhone-specific web apps or iPhone-formatted websites. It doesn't support position:fixed, but neither does mobile safari However the javascript scrolling scripts do not work either. Many web apps use this but the code would have to be rewritten just to work on opera.
But then this poses another problem - how do you identify the browser? The useragent for opera mini does not even include the device name, I'm assuming because everything is done on the server-side for optimization. This means that you can't identify opera mini on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Most sites these days (engadget, gizmodo, lifehacker, tuaw etc.) redirect to mobile versions by identifying the device in the user agent. This does not work in opera mini and as a result you get the full version. Now developers could then identify it as opera mini but then you get the problem of other mobile devices using opera mini getting an iPhone version of the site or iPhone users getting a even more reduced mobile version.
Using this browser is bad for everyone. Please don't use it.
hell, even in WiFI Opera Mini is like 5x faster than Safari. Its crazy fast, some pages load faster than they do in Firefox on my MBP. No kidding.
Now lets hope Opera keeps on releasing updates, because the zooming and multi-touch gestures needs some work.
This is hilarious. Do ANY of you realize that if Opera would have done pinch to zoom like Safari and made it all around perfect Apple would NEVER accepted it? But now the way they made it so Apple thinks : "It shouldn't be threat since its zooming, fonts etc suck so we will let it slide since most people will not like it."
But now that they are in the Apple store they can/will release update that addresses all those issues and will make it FAR more superior browser?
But now that they are in the Apple store they can/will release update that addresses all those issues and will make it FAR more superior browser?
right off the bat, first impression, not too amazed. i like the front end homepage to 9 of your favorite pages. but the "endless smooth scroll" by the flick of your finger seems a lil more sticky than apples safari (and everything else for that matter)... one thing i noticed tho, is when a page loads up (or loading up) and you flick fast to the bottom of the page, no checkers! very nice. other than that, Its so-so; not terrible, but I don't see getting rid of my safari and getting used to this app. I will keep it on my ipod for a lil bit longer, and see how it continues to try n fit in
EDIT: testing some sites back n forth from safari to opera, It's sorta hard to tell if it really loads up sites much faster... I'll go ahead and believe it is slightly faster load than safari... but 5x faster is a hell of an exageration. mobile safari isnt that slow in the first place (running via WIFI)
EDIT: testing some sites back n forth from safari to opera, It's sorta hard to tell if it really loads up sites much faster... I'll go ahead and believe it is slightly faster load than safari... but 5x faster is a hell of an exageration. mobile safari isnt that slow in the first place (running via WIFI)
No Apple
This is weird. In Opera, If you type apple.com into the search box (google) it states their is no hits!
This is weird. In Opera, If you type apple.com into the search box (google) it states their is no hits!
