mdriftmeyer
macrumors 68040
Spare the false analogy.
IE is buggy and non-standard.
Apple is driving standards and now Firefox is in catch up mode.
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Opera Mini Approved for Inclusion in App Store
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Spare the false analogy.
IE is buggy and non-standard.
Apple is driving standards and now Firefox is in catch up mode.
mdriftmeyer
macrumors 68040
Wake me up when Firefox rewrites itself in Cocoa. You have a better shot at seeing Camino.
All parts that depend on Java, if any, will need to be rewritten.
Ditch XUL and move your UI to Apple proper.
mdriftmeyer
macrumors 68040
Well, this Opera version is a big fat FAIL 😡
Do a HTML5 test on both safari and Opera...
Safari FTFW
That's the reason I linked to the test.
Opera rules
opera really is by far the best browser for slower connections.
the auto-compression and turbo mode means it outperforms safari and chrome, easily.
i'm in india, and usually opera is the only browser that works. when my broadband is really humming, safari loads, but opera is always faster.
opera really is by far the best browser for slower connections.
the auto-compression and turbo mode means it outperforms safari and chrome, easily.
i'm in india, and usually opera is the only browser that works. when my broadband is really humming, safari loads, but opera is always faster.
This is the worst app i have ever installed.
None of the websites that i run render correctly even though they render correctly on every major browser i have run.
This alone is a reason for this app to have been buried. Apple should never have let this out of the cage. I refuse to add more junk code to my websites to make it work the way we do with ie6.
And the zooming, discraceful.
Opera got on their high horse over the app store approval process only to deliver garbage through it.
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None of the websites that i run render correctly even though they render correctly on every major browser i have run.
This alone is a reason for this app to have been buried. Apple should never have let this out of the cage. I refuse to add more junk code to my websites to make it work the way we do with ie6.
And the zooming, discraceful.
Opera got on their high horse over the app store approval process only to deliver garbage through it.
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Apple would be risking anti-trust allegations like MS did with IE if they didn't approve something like this.
mdriftmeyer
macrumors 68040
This score tells me that OS 4.0 [presuming you mean iPhone OS 4.0] will see marked improvement to that score when it catches up to WebKit nightlies which is now at 139/160.
9 of those missing points deals with MP3/Ogg support missing which are no more part of the spec than AAC/H.264: so actually it's 139/151 and your browser is 134/151.
What's still lacking includes:
Text-level semantics elements missing:
- time element
Forms elements/attributes missing:
- autocomplete input attribute
- keygen element
- output element
- meter element
User interaction missing:
- hidden attribute
- Undo manager
I installed it on my iPhone this morning and so far very impressed with the speed of paged rendering. However before it replaces Safari as my main iPhone browser it needs to receive an update. Primarily spell check and an improved zoom of pages wen they first load. Currently it is not possible to see text on very text heavy websites.
Hopefully it gets better with time.
Hopefully it gets better with time.
I was so excited.....
I couldn't wait to try the opera browser on my iphone and needless to say I am greatly underwhelmed. Yes most sites do load faster with opera but often not all content loads and more importantly sometimes text gets cut off. Also startup time seems to be slower with Opera. My iphone also froze while I tried to add something to the favorites page.
I am also having problems with certain mobile sites. For example mobile.macrumors.com and CNN fails to work with Opera. I also cannot access my bank accounts using mobile websites.
My biggest peeve is the reduced real estate available to view a page. Both the webpage title bar and toolbar are bigger than the ones in Safari. When the address bar is present there is just a 1inch bar worth of viewable webpage in landscape mode. I find that I am panning, scrolling and zooming in/out much more with Opera than with Safari. On the bright side panning and scrolling seems to be faster but not by much.
Needles to say I am not going to be using Opera at all for now and may keep it on my phone just as a backup browser for when I have that lethargically slow 3G connection. Perhaps Apple allowed Opera on the appstore only after they realized how much of a non-threat this is to safari.
I couldn't wait to try the opera browser on my iphone and needless to say I am greatly underwhelmed. Yes most sites do load faster with opera but often not all content loads and more importantly sometimes text gets cut off. Also startup time seems to be slower with Opera. My iphone also froze while I tried to add something to the favorites page.
I am also having problems with certain mobile sites. For example mobile.macrumors.com and CNN fails to work with Opera. I also cannot access my bank accounts using mobile websites.
My biggest peeve is the reduced real estate available to view a page. Both the webpage title bar and toolbar are bigger than the ones in Safari. When the address bar is present there is just a 1inch bar worth of viewable webpage in landscape mode. I find that I am panning, scrolling and zooming in/out much more with Opera than with Safari. On the bright side panning and scrolling seems to be faster but not by much.
Needles to say I am not going to be using Opera at all for now and may keep it on my phone just as a backup browser for when I have that lethargically slow 3G connection. Perhaps Apple allowed Opera on the appstore only after they realized how much of a non-threat this is to safari.
Performance is certainly there. It's not as good at Safari when viewing sites not designed for mobile devices (i.e. those that require zooming), but works just as well for those that are. I'm not sure what browser string Opera is sending but it looks like sites rendered for mobiles may not understand it yet, e.g.
when going to the BBC news website http://news.bbc.co.uk, Opera displays the full sized version which requires zooming. Safari gets redirected to http://news.bbc.co.uk/mobile. Of course you could just enter http://news.bbc.co.uk/mobile in Opera until it's updated server side.
All in all, it's a nice alternative and can only get better.
when going to the BBC news website http://news.bbc.co.uk, Opera displays the full sized version which requires zooming. Safari gets redirected to http://news.bbc.co.uk/mobile. Of course you could just enter http://news.bbc.co.uk/mobile in Opera until it's updated server side.
All in all, it's a nice alternative and can only get better.
innominato5090
macrumors 6502
doesn't support standard copy-paste, opera has implemented is own version and it sucks 😀
now opera mini sits on the second page of my iphone...waiting for an update 😛
now opera mini sits on the second page of my iphone...waiting for an update 😛
wow I REALLY like this browser - much better than safari. And don't forget: this is the first version!
Mr. Giver '94
macrumors 68000
I'm on it right now. Very fast compared to Safari. So far I've noticed a couple of things I'd adjust. The zooming and panning need to be cleaned up slightly because they aren't quite right and the zoom is either too much or too little. It also seems like they haven't set the keyboard to use auto-correct and the keyboard doesn't have the .com button. Other than that it is a great fast browser but it does lack a the fluididty and detail/richness of mobile Safari.
talkingfuture
macrumors 65816
Have to say I am disappointed. Doesn't seem that fast compared to safari (I'm on WiFi not 3g though) and the interface seems awkward and heavy compared to Safari.
Is it just me or is the zoom non-linear, getting faster the longer you pinch? Thats weird but may be good if I get used to it.
Is it just me or is the zoom non-linear, getting faster the longer you pinch? Thats weird but may be good if I get used to it.
raymanster
macrumors 6502
itickings
macrumors 6502a
Barely useable.
Faster than Safari on a few pages, slower on most (maybe overloaded Opera-servers?) on a 3G connection. Pans fast, but refuses to zoom to the level I want. Refuses to zoom at all on certain pages.
Disappointed. But maybe future updates will improve things.
Faster than Safari on a few pages, slower on most (maybe overloaded Opera-servers?) on a 3G connection. Pans fast, but refuses to zoom to the level I want. Refuses to zoom at all on certain pages.
Disappointed. But maybe future updates will improve things.
on some websites it loads the entire thing, if feels weird, i dont even know how to put it. and on other webpages it sort of crams everything together and you cant pinch to zoom.
the more i use it the more i like it but it still feels a little awkward
the more i use it the more i like it but it still feels a little awkward
BillyBobBongo
macrumors 68030
I'm excited that Opera have been able to get this approved, but I'll be sticking with Safari for now whilst they work on it further.
newyorkguy
macrumors regular
It's good to have competition though.
Opera seems to be faster than Safari on my iPhone 3G.