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OPINION:How come the Iphone 6s is not selling that great?
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Considering the mass uproar that occurred when the tiny iPhone lovers heard about Apple's plan to build phones with modern sized displays, perhaps the return of the demure size will result in a bump in sales volume. That ought to be interesting.
This is in the invisible category. But as new frequency bands come out and are used by the carriers, new phones are needed to support them. The big changes like 2G-3G, then LTE, are more visible. But additions like band 12 are invisible to most. Unless you are in an area where someone with a new phone has service, and you don't.
Still not a need to upgrade yearly. But after 3 or 4 years, it can make a difference.
Hmm, "Why isn't the iPhone selling great?"
With no evidence of sales not being great.
Excellent topic here.
You have to actually have something occur for there to be a discussion as to why said event has occurred.
With no evidence of sales not being great.
Excellent topic here.
You have to actually have something occur for there to be a discussion as to why said event has occurred.
That's what I'm saying, but I was put on "ignore" when I suggested whatever was said was conjecture until we get the numbers. Lol. Then it will be an interesting discussion.
Obviously you weren't around this forum.
The very moment rumors surfaced that Apple might abandon the tiny iPhone in favor of a new model with a larger display the devotees went wild in protest.
Thousands and thousands of posts are now in the archives. The moment the rumor became truth, silence fell immediately.
A 180 degree U-Turn occurred as the masses promptly declared how wonderful the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would be. A bit of hypocrisy that has always been a hallmark of the fans.
People forget the China factor. Previously iPhones haven't been officially available in China. And it's been only less than two years since iPhone has been officially available on China Mobile. The worlds largest (in terms of subscribers) cell phone company.
Think about it. Although iPhones are expensive for many average Chinese citizens. Even only 1% of China Mobile subscribers (currently 800 million subscribers). That's 8 million iPhones being sold just to one company! That's a lot of iPhones. 1% folks of one company.
And that's how the iPhone sales have increased dramatically the past couple of years.
China is a cash cow for Apple even if most of its citizens can't afford it. It's just so huge.
Think about it. Although iPhones are expensive for many average Chinese citizens. Even only 1% of China Mobile subscribers (currently 800 million subscribers). That's 8 million iPhones being sold just to one company! That's a lot of iPhones. 1% folks of one company.
And that's how the iPhone sales have increased dramatically the past couple of years.
China is a cash cow for Apple even if most of its citizens can't afford it. It's just so huge.
Simple answer - it's just too played out.
People don't want to purchase the same crap year after year.
People don't want to purchase the same crap year after year.
Obviously you weren't around this forum.
The very moment rumors surfaced that Apple might abandon the tiny iPhone in favor of a new model with a larger display the devotees went wild in protest.
Thousands and thousands of posts are now in the archives. The moment the rumor became truth, silence fell immediately.
A 180 degree U-Turn occurred as the masses promptly declared how wonderful the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would be. A bit of hypocrisy that has always been a hallmark of the fans.
I was, but this forum doesn't constitute the masses. Posters on an Apple enthusiasts website are not a fair representation of the millions of people buying iPhones. As you say, extreme reactions are a hallmark of the more obsessed fans. Most people are just like, "New iPhone... Neat!"
I am not sold on the size of the 6, what Apple put under the covers is another matter. If there is a smaller phone with the innards of the 6s, I might go for it.
It's was never masses here. I would say it was perhaps 30 posters maximum, some dominated and pushed their point but it was never the vast majority.Obviously you weren't around this forum.
The very moment rumors surfaced that Apple might abandon the tiny iPhone in favor of a new model with a larger display the devotees went wild in protest.
Thousands and thousands of posts are now in the archives. The moment the rumor became truth, silence fell immediately.
A 180 degree U-Turn occurred as the masses promptly declared how wonderful the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would be. A bit of hypocrisy that has always been a hallmark of the fans.
I wasn't keen on the idea of a larger iPhone but still bought it. I now enjoy the slightly bigger screen. Am I a hypocrite because of that? Of course not, just somebody who changed their mind on something that really isn't that important.
The two of you express sensible opinions and preferences which is in stark contrast to the hard core haters that equated larger spacious displays with Androids that upset them. That's a very distinctive difference.
Let's face it, we each use our phones a bit differently. In the field, in the plane flying to the UK and points beyond, having a large display is extremely advantageous for my usage pattern. I'm the perfect candidate for getting maximum use from a smartphone.
Instead of having to wait to use my laptop, I can do research, reports, manage my heavy flow of email and such all from my phone. In fact I've learned from buying lots of Android models that the 6.0" display of my Nexus 6 is so ideal it's been my primary smartphone since it's release last year. That makes my iPhone 6 Plus the ideal companion phone.
In fact I've fully enjoyed each new iPhone from the original and everyone thereafter, it's simply a matter of personal preferences.
There were almost endless threads and posts about the design of the Safari icon when iOS 7 came out with its visual redesign. All kinds of changes and non-changes and rumors and non-rumors have been known generate all kinds of responses here, which by itself doesn't necessarily mean much one way or another.Obviously you weren't around this forum.
The very moment rumors surfaced that Apple might abandon the tiny iPhone in favor of a new model with a larger display the devotees went wild in protest.
Thousands and thousands of posts are now in the archives. The moment the rumor became truth, silence fell immediately.
A 180 degree U-Turn occurred as the masses promptly declared how wonderful the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus would be. A bit of hypocrisy that has always been a hallmark of the fans.
Remember that when the media is talking about Apple, "disappointing" means anything less than a bajillion sold. It's a whole different scale than pretty much anyone else who sells consumer electronics, because of how huge Apple has become and what it takes for them to keep growing.
That said, the 6s was a "tock" upgrade cycle. It looks exactly the same as the prior year's models, and to many people was not a huge upgrade. Therefore, many people didn't bother. I know a lot of people that are perfectly happy with their 6 / 6 Plus.
That said, I see it way differently than most. I was stunned at the extent of internals upgrades on the new 's' models. I immediately traded up from a 6 Plus and couldn't be happier. The doubled RAM, much faster CPU, and faster flash memory access makes for a much more robust experience across the board. I can run multiple browser tabs like I was on a laptop. I'm enjoying the 3D Touch, the camera OIS (which is amazing), the 4k (which I mostly use to get no-penalty zoom on 1080 footage), and the harder glass and casing materials (less scratches!).
But until the casing and form factor is redesigned, the average person is going to yawn. I'm expecting the iPhone 7 is going to be a stunner and will motivate people to upgrade.
That said, the 6s was a "tock" upgrade cycle. It looks exactly the same as the prior year's models, and to many people was not a huge upgrade. Therefore, many people didn't bother. I know a lot of people that are perfectly happy with their 6 / 6 Plus.
That said, I see it way differently than most. I was stunned at the extent of internals upgrades on the new 's' models. I immediately traded up from a 6 Plus and couldn't be happier. The doubled RAM, much faster CPU, and faster flash memory access makes for a much more robust experience across the board. I can run multiple browser tabs like I was on a laptop. I'm enjoying the 3D Touch, the camera OIS (which is amazing), the 4k (which I mostly use to get no-penalty zoom on 1080 footage), and the harder glass and casing materials (less scratches!).
But until the casing and form factor is redesigned, the average person is going to yawn. I'm expecting the iPhone 7 is going to be a stunner and will motivate people to upgrade.
I get the impression the notion that the iPhone is not selling as well as it once did has been somewhat tainted by the fact The Daily Mail is now running a story on it.
I guess we'll find out tonight just how well the iPhone has sold. I think there's been a lot of scare mongering. It may not have sold as well as the iPhone 6 but I'm sure it's still sold very well.
However realistically there is only so much growth possible. After a certain point things will start to level off and even decline.
Also I think the financial situation in China will effect Apple's sales going forward. China was apple's biggest market last quarter.
However realistically there is only so much growth possible. After a certain point things will start to level off and even decline.
Also I think the financial situation in China will effect Apple's sales going forward. China was apple's biggest market last quarter.
What makes me say sales are down? Well 1st off, the numerous sites are saying so recently. (I even put a link in the OP) On the other hand, no I do not have Apple stock nor am I planning to. If Apple decides to actually make their products in America (Like they should), I would not mind at all...im all for American jobs. It just seems that Apple is trying more hard to push the 6s opposed to the 6. Yeah the 6 featured the new chassi but like the factors that I mentioned in my OP. The 6 came out at the right time and the phone literally sold itself...just something to think about......
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I respectfully disagree. Did you even bother to read the title or OP? It's says opinion for a good reason; additionally, I think I made myself pretty clear in my OP. Since I even gave a link to prove other people are saying the same thing.....(The link was provided by The Drudge Report if you're into politics).
Excellent comment there.
Hey there is no doom and gloom for Apple here. They might have a hiccup. But I think they are the most profitable company we have ever seen. But it will be interesting to see if the rumors are true. That Apple will see its first ever decline in iPhone sales. I thought I read where Apple gets 65% of it revenue from iPhone sales.
But again no doom and gloom....they still have what 160B in the bank?
But again no doom and gloom....they still have what 160B in the bank?
Well now we know, the actual numbers are in and sales aren't down. You should wait for confirmation that they're actually down before making topics based solely on conjecture from a third party site. That was my point. If Apple actually reported sales being down then it would be worthy of discussion. There's some blog or site reporting Apple's "doom" every year, let's at least wait until it actually happens before wondering why they're doomed.
It seems that you were trusting the wrong sources, Apple made even more cash with iPhones this time.I have been reading numerous articles lately regarding the apparently disappointing sales of the the Iphone 6s. How come the Iphone 6s is not selling as great as previous iphones? Is it because there are not enough new features to justify the purchase of a new iphone? I understand there are new major stuff such as 12 meg pix camera, 2gb ram, and force touch but is it really a day/night difference? In my opinion, I do not think so and please here me out. As a former owner of a silver 6s Plus 128gb, my silver 6 w/ ios 8, my 6 preformed just as fast as my former 6s Plus.
Secondly, how come Apple and other carriers are pushing so many ad's for the 6s? If I remember correctly besides the "Shot on the Iphone 6" campaign, the 6 barley had any ad's; it literally sold itself; you cannot really say the same for the 6s. One major factor was with many females and models such as Kylie/Kendall Jenner I see on IG boasting their new Iphone 6 when it came out. Addiotnally if you are young college kid like me,
Lastly, do you know more friends with the iphone 6s than 6? Because for me, more of my friends have a 6 than a 6s opposed to more of my friends having 6 than a 5s a couple of years ago.
If the 6s were truly that great; everyone would have a 6s by now; just something to think about... I used to say "S" stand's for "Smart" but now I believe "S" stand for "Silly". Could Apple be finally losing it's touch?(No pun intended) Or this is just the aftermath of loosing such a innovative guy such as Steve Jobs?
Here's one of the articles the motivated me making this thread:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-suppliers-idUSKCN0V00V5
I am very keen to hear what you guys/ladies think. Thx in advance.
Your post looks bit "Silly" now. And to be honest it seems the loss of Steve Jobs didn't harm the company in the slightest in commercial terms.