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It seems that you were trusting the wrong sources, Apple made even more cash with iPhones this time.
Your post looks bit "Silly" now. And to be honest it seems the loss of Steve Jobs didn't harm the company in the slightest in commercial terms.
Indeed. Steve Jobs has been dead nearly half a decade now and people need to realise that a company the size of Apple are capable of continuing to steer in the right direction.
 
It hasn't sold a lot..
Maybe the iPhone 7 will sell the most ever. But it might be the last and Apple really has to add something innovative. They are 2 years behind in most areas.
 
Nope not a lot at all, just more than any iPhone model in Apple's history.

I bet Tim Cook is tearing his hair out right about now.
 
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My assumption is it's a combination of carriers doing away with subsidized contracts, 3.5/4" screen lovers holding on to their phones, maturity of the product, and the fact that the 6S really, honestly is not much different from the 6. ""To Me"", it is not noticeably faster, not noticeably better performing, photos looks the same give same aperture, 3D Touch is laughable, and the phones look identical. I would think even enthusiasts like us in the forums have had an inner struggle as to whether the S versions are worth the cost of an upgrade.

(I do find the jump from the 6 Plus to the 6S Plus a bit more worthy given the impact of 2gb ram to that particular model)

I think it's definitely interesting that apparent Apple super-fans, such as myself, just don't feel the need to upgrade to every iPhone model. I can live without a few novelty features until the next one comes out. I've just had my launch 6 Plus replaced due to a dodgy screen, so this'll do me just fine until the 7. Would be stupid to buy right now anyway.
 
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If we stacked all the iPhones sold in the last quarter of 2015, it would bridge between SF to LA. (Thickness: 0.0071m, units sold: 74,800,000)
 
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People with 6 or 6plus waiting for 7
Also now that subsidys are gone nobody's in a hurry. Let's see what the 7 is all about
 
With subsidies more or less gone, people are choosing to save some money.

I had the choice of paying way over $1000 for an iPhone or settle for last years model LG G3 for $100 with 0$ upfront. The choice was easy for me and I chose to save $1000. Smartphones have got to the point where last years models are way more than what I need. For me, Apple would have to cut the price in half for me to consider an iPhone again.
 
Apple Expects First Ever Decline of iPhone Sales Next Quarter
Apple CEO Tim Cook confirmed during the company's financial earnings conference call today that iPhone sales will likely decline in the March quarter, marking the first year-over-year decline since the smartphone was released in June 2007. The decline will be realized if Apple sells less than 61.2 million iPhones this quarter.

No doom and gloom for Apple but they will see the first ever decline in iPhone sales.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/01/26/apple-expects-first-ever-iphone-sales-decline/
 
With subsidies more or less gone, people are choosing to save some money.
Also now that subsidys are gone nobody's in a hurry.
Guess we'll see.

To me, back with the subsidy plans, the minimum it cost "out of pocket" to upgrade to the latest iPhone/Galaxy was $199. I think that was a barrier for some folks, and they either didn't upgrade at the end of their contract, or they went for older (or lower tier) phones that had $99 or $0 "out of pocket" upgrade costs.

Now that subsidies are gone, that $199+ "out of pocket" upgrade cost is gone too. The extra $100 "out of pocket" to get a spec bump (like 64GB of RAM) is gone, too. It now "just" costs $4/month extra to spec bump a level.

I want to have more faith with American consumers (in terms of saving money), but I just don't think subsidies disappearing is suddenly going to make the majority of them hang on to their old phones any longer than they did before.

Besides Apple/Samsung/etc, the carriers themselves make money when phones are sold. It's in their financial best interest to keep on selling phones. I can't wait to see the marketing spin they're going to put on about how much better their 0% financing plans with monthly payments are compared to the old subsidy model.
 
Guess we'll see.

To me, back with the subsidy plans, the minimum it cost "out of pocket" to upgrade to the latest iPhone/Galaxy was $199. I think that was a barrier for some folks, and they either didn't upgrade at the end of their contract, or they went for older (or lower tier) phones that had $99 or $0 "out of pocket" upgrade costs.

Now that subsidies are gone, that $199+ "out of pocket" upgrade cost is gone too. The extra $100 "out of pocket" to get a spec bump (like 64GB of RAM) is gone, too. It now "just" costs $4/month extra to spec bump a level.

I want to have more faith with American consumers (in terms of saving money), but I just don't think subsidies disappearing is suddenly going to make the majority of them hang on to their old phones any longer than they did before.

Besides Apple/Samsung/etc, the carriers themselves make money when phones are sold. It's in their financial best interest to keep on selling phones. I can't wait to see the marketing spin they're going to put on about how much better their 0% financing plans with monthly payments are compared to the old subsidy model.


It's a little different in Canada, if you want a high end phone you need a different plan type if you want some sort of subsidy. Buying from a carrier would not be an option as I would have to pay $400 up front for a iPhone 6s 16GB and around $40-$50 more a month for the plan. I'm not willing to pay $1000 upfront or $1500 over 2 years just to have an iPhone. The way phones a subsidized in the US is way more fair IMO.
 
It's a little different in Canada, if you want a high end phone you need a different plan type if you want some sort of subsidy. Buying from a carrier would not be an option as I would have to pay $400 up front for a iPhone 6s 16GB and around $40-$50 more a month for the plan. I'm not willing to pay $1000 upfront or $1500 over 2 years just to have an iPhone. The way phones a subsidized in the US is way more fair IMO.

I think the UK is probably somewhere in between the US and Canada. You can get a high end phone for a small upfront fee say £150, the only caveat is that you would need to be on a £50+ tariff to get such a subsidy. The less you pay for your monthly line rental the more you pay for the phone upfront. However this is coupled with the fact that on a lot of networks if you want aa decent amount of data you need to pay for a more expensive tariff.
 
It seems that you were trusting the wrong sources, Apple made even more cash with iPhones this time.
Your post looks bit "Silly" now. And to be honest it seems the loss of Steve Jobs didn't harm the company in the slightest in commercial terms.


I respectfully disagree. The Drudge Report is a very reliable source. I see your point regarding the sales for the 6s, but my point is in my OP, for me I know more of my friends have a 6 than a 6s opposed to more of my friends having 6 than a 5s a couple of years ago. And if the 6s is so great, how come not everyone has one at this point? There's a reason the iphone 6 had the highest adoption rate of any iphone (yet). I highly doubt the 6s will do the same numbers especially since the 7 is coming out. There are simply not enough features to justify having a new iphone 6s.

And with the Steve Jobs issue, I would argue if we were still alive, we would probably have the new imac out already...but's that for a whole different thread ;)
 
I respectfully disagree. The Drudge Report is a very reliable source.
I love the Drudge Report, but to me, his site is 99% articles written by others that he thinks will be interesting (regardless of the actual source) that he links to. He so rarely authors anything himself, it's really hard to call him a source.

I've seen him link to articles on some pretty weird and (IMO) not reputable sites before.
 
Market saturation and cell phone contract obligation. I am sure as most, if not all will say, there is a reason they are all dumping 2 year contracts and leasing phones now. Hell, outside of going into someplace like BestBuy you are forced to pay monthly for hardware now. Got love TMobile.
 
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