Finally, optical zoom is getting somewhere on phone cameras. Bring on the arms race.
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Oppo Introduces 10x Optical Zoom Triple-Camera Smartphone
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I didn’t they literally meant “everybody.” And they probably were referring to the Oppo camera as “innovation.”
What's a big party pic? The only evidence I see of big parties are in the form of individual selfies. And no one looking to achieve cinema photographic landscapes is going to be using a smartphone camera. 2.39 aspect ratio has nothing to do with smartphone wide angle lenses because the current crop of them optically distort the image to squeeze more information. Kind of like shooting anamorphic without correcting for the squeeze. Maybe future smartphones will include an oversampled, anamorphic sensor and lens combo that is digitally corrected in post to produce quality wide shots but that's not here yet.
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Got it’s the ops hyperbolic opinion, hence the comment about ones personal definition of innovation.
We seem to have people suggesting that x10 zoom in a phone camera isn't innovation.
Beggars belief
Edit: Importantly, optical zoom.
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I mean if 10x zoom is “innovation,” that seems to be a pretty low standard. But, objectively speaking, Apple hasn’t been at the same level since Jobs passed sadly.
Jobs’ Apple had Apple as an industry pioneer.
Also all their R&D and tech trickles down to OnePlus. We will see a 10x Zoom OnePlus for next gen I bet you
This is a matter of preference or use-case. I, personally, don't care about wide-angle. I do, however, really want a good telephoto.
At 10x though, I'm guessing it's going to be hard to take a good shot unless their stabilization is amazing.
The camera 10x optical is cool stuff, I’ll give them that. However Apple is at a different level since Jobs passed. But that’s to be expected.
A company that used to make really nice AV gear (Blu-ray players, etc.), and now only makes smart phones.
I remember just a few years ago people claiming adding optical zoom to phone would be impossible 
Smart phone cameras have come a long way, and I remember years back I was considering purchasing a DSLR, realizing I would probably have useful applications for photo taking, then realized, I don’t want to carry something that heavy around, my smart phone executes all the photo taking that I could want. The only thing I can ask for any type of improvement with the iPhone specifically, would be ‘low light’ photos with the iPhone, and Googles ‘Night Sight’ is a fairly interesting technique that they’re using to combat low light distortion in photos.
This is absolutely not a 10x optical zoom. Actually, there is no zoom lens in this phone at all. There is a wide angle lens and a telephoto lens at a a focal length 10 times longer than the wide angle. Everything between 1x and 10x is interpolated via software.
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I remember just a few years ago people claiming adding optical zoom to phone would be impossible
There is no zoom lens in this phone ...
I prefer telephoto. Generally the first lens I go to. I wish the better of the two cameras were the telephoto.
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I thought it looked a little fishy. "10x optical zoom." Get out of here.
Tim Cook is only good for the bottom line. However, they need someone to take over the product development side to balance both short term financials and long-term viability. Apple is teetering on a bad path with their overpriced phones.
Yup, their product line has been painfully embarrassing since.
I know that some iOS users applaud new additions or vehemently defend some controversial changes Apple makes, but I am curious on your take on the changes from the 5S until now? I just wanted to know your perspective overall, not trying to label you in a camp for or against Apple product lines.
Where should Apple be right now, especially if their product line is "painfully embarrassing?"
There is good and bad w/ Apple. I'll give credit, FaceID is pretty nifty. The processors are the best on the market. But then again, they don't do enough with the tech to maximize it. If they had a chance to reduce the notch early, then why not reduce it? If the processors are strong enough to be in a possible laptop, then why not give the iPhone the iPad's multi-tasking features with the larger displays (5.5" or higher)?
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Whether if it's an S or a full # change, we shouldn't have to vehemently defend incremental changes that phone manufacturers make in general. The smartphone pricing is getting stupid expensive now. The X to the XS was such a minor upgrade that the X to the XS change isn't worth it.
10X optical zoom isn't optical zoom if the CPU is working hanky panky interpolating the focal lengths between the three lenses. Kinda reminds me of 5Ge.
Disagree strongly. The improvements have been impressive lately, but the very existence of the gap between what fits in the pocket and good DSLRs is exactly why the innovation continues. I will say this to the chagrin of professional photographers, but the notion that consumers should be able to get excellent quality photos across a variety of conditions should be axiomatic.
Today, there are still plenty of situations where the outcome isn't great, even on the latest technology. That fact means that by definition, the smartphone camera battles are NOT "all played out."
True, optical zoom is overrated. To much noise.Do my eyes deceive me? Are some of ya'll actually saying that optical zoom is not useful?
Anyways, been waiting on Oppo to implement this for several years now.