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I would recommend a drone for that shot. They're cheaper than any flagship smartphone and more versatile but I see your point.
I am in the UK and one of the regulations set out in the Air Navigation Order 2009 is

"If your drone has a camera, you can’t fly closer than 50m to people, vehicles or buildings, unless you have permission and all people and vehicles you’re flying near are under your control"
 
We seem to have people suggesting that x10 zoom in a phone camera isn't innovation.
Beggars belief

Edit: Importantly, optical zoom.

I remember just a few years ago people claiming adding optical zoom to phone would be impossible :rolleyes:

So @Gilligan's last elephant and @goobot are you confident you haven't falling for the marketing spiel? This is not optical zoom lens. These are 3 fixed focus lenses with software interpolation to make it appear like a zoom lens. It only has three fixed optical focal points, the rest is digital.

It's nice, but it is not optical zoom. Next phone will put even more lenses in it ;)
 
Wow that’s impressive. I wonder how the quality of the 10x lens is. It looks decent from that sample they provided, so I’m curious to see more examples.
Don‘t know about the quality of the lens, but I can tell you what the photos will look like: blurred
 
Cook's "interesting products" are less game changing that "Job's interesting products." What happened to Siri? She is cut-rate now. Look at that expensive piece of junk known as the HomePod?
Because you have a negative opinion of some of apple’s products (deserved or not), a generalization was made?
 
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if they can use software to take advantage (ie, the camera will take picture from all lenses and then digitally calculates depth etc.) then we could have a really good improvement. Otherwise it won't be that crazy useful
You can't see the benefit of optical zoom?
 
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So @Gilligan's last elephant and @goobot are you confident you haven't falling for the marketing spiel? This is not optical zoom lens. These are 3 fixed focus lenses with software interpolation to make it appear like a zoom lens. It only has three fixed optical focal points, the rest is digital.

It's nice, but it is not optical zoom. Next phone will put even more lenses in it ;)
I had responded in another reply that I agreed it isn't a zoom lens. However, there is a fixed optical telephoto of approx x5 on the standard lens in the phone which is still an achievement.
 
Do my eyes deceive me? Are some of ya'll actually saying that optical zoom is not useful? o_O

Anyways, been waiting on Oppo to implement this for several years now.
You must be new here :D
Stage one: Deny any new feature from a competitor is useful.
Stage two: When Apple releases said feature. Apple invented it/perfected it and it is the best thing since sliced bread.
 
By the way, 16mm-160mm is not 10x zoom. Anyone with a basic understanding of photography and focal length would know that.
Say what??!!! 16-160mm is EXACTLY 10x zoom. Just because it’s starts at ultra wide has nothing to do with that fact. We don’t call a 100mm lens a 2x lens simply because it’s double a standard 50mm.
 
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Wow that’s impressive. I wonder how the quality of the 10x lens is. It looks decent from that sample they provided, so I’m curious to see more examples.
Should be good. I'm guessing getting smaller lenses optically good would be easier that massive lenses on DSLRs. (could well be wrong on that point though)
 
Because you a negative opinion of some of apple’s products (deserved or not), a generalization was made?

Siri has lost head to head with the Google Assistant. It would be even worse if it wasn’t for the SDK being opened up. The HomePod is trash, idc if you consider it a generalization or not. It’s expensive and doesn’t add much utility.
 
Gone are the MegaPixel wars.

It’s now all about who can out-zoom who.

Who's zooming who...? ;)

Apple really should have added a super-wide-angle lens instead of a telephoto lens first. Super-wide-angle lenses are so much more useful than telephoto lenses.

Agreed. See comment after next quote.

Super wide lenses are only useful for front facing selfie cameras with 4 or more people in the frame. I cannot think of a reason for ultra wide rear facing except for taking distorted pics of small interior spaces.

Apple's 2x telephoto has come in handy many times when I cannot physically get closer to a subject but a 3x or 4x would be even nicer.

Telephoto lenses are great for snapshooting and documenting things... ...e.g., I was here.... ...we were there.... ...I got this present... ...here's the baby (puppy, kitty, sweetheart, screenshot from my PC)... ...here's the invoice.... ....here's the product in the store... ...which admittedly is most of what most people shoot.

Wide angle lenses are far more useful generally in fine art photography and for many particular applications - and for their superior depth of field. The compressed perspective of telephoto shots flattens reality, so there's always some kind of distortion in photography through any lens (for those pointing the abberations of WA shots). But if I were a sports photographer (in most sports) I of course would be highly prejudiced toward telephoto lenses.

All of these choices are great but I really think the smartphone camera battles are all played out. They all look good enough. For those of us that really need high quality photos, a dedicated DSLR or mirrorless is much better. Everything else is just about convenience.

It's a meme by now, but true: the best camera you have when a photo op comes up is the best camera for the purpose you have with you at the time. I'm a dedicated "grab shooter" and seldom want the rest of my experience in a place to be hampered by transporting and carrying around pounds of equipment.

And the new age of phone-based photography (and in cameras in general) the "battles" are just beginning. Happily, though, even at this stage, this approach has garnered me some of the favorite shots I've ever taken.

I thought it looked a little fishy. "10x optical zoom." Get out of here.

It's not "true" optical zoom to be sure, but it's also not what we've thought of as "digital zoom" in the past exactly either, and with other innovations like systems for amplifying low light scenes by taking a series of shots and building a best pixel map (which follows on HDR shooting in a more sophisticated way), plus other tricks like Apple's bokeh, etc., etc. it's more accurate to say we've entered - or are least entering - the age of "computational photography."

Chromatic aberration and purple fringing for everyone!
True, optical zoom is overrated. To much noise.

Since these are not moving element optical zoom lenses, their artifacts will exist, but will largely be different. And I'm wondering what applications most of the folks getting persnickety about using phone rigs for "real photography" have for the pictures they take. Pros are figuring out ways to use these tools - just as artists still use $5 pin hole cameras. Reality isn't necessarily overrated, but capturing "reality" is not exactly what photographers do - and all photos are stylized abstractions of reality......
 
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