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I believe you need to relax, I did not make that claim, Oppo did. Have you read the article, I said so it is claimed. I neither agree or disagreed that it is on par.
Woah bro. Take a chill pill. I did not say you did or did not. I said it wasn’t on par, especially given some output on these forums.

You claimed that under display camera tech is inferior,
Since we’re parsing words, oppo claimed the pictures needed the application of software since the quality suffers.
I mentioned that according to Oppo it is on par
Right according to oppo.

...I also mentioned that TouchID gen 1 was rubbish
The problem with the statement is it’s incorrect. You might as well spout any gen 1 product is rubbish. Touch ID gen 1 not being as good as gen 2 doesn’t make that product rubbish.

...I agreed with many review sites that NightSight in low light is better than what Apple has and it accomplishes it with one camera. Stating that just because one has more of something does not make it better.
Nightsite, if you call holding the camera steady for 5 seconds wonderful, but it’s a one trick pony.

Please inform me how Apple has placed a camera with inferior quality on MBA 2018 and MB. Compared to the pre 2018 MBA models it is noticeable. What is the excuse, the display is too thin, how about Apple is making it bezel-less.
You tell me. I honestly don’t care.

At least Oppo is claiming that we have a camera under the display that is on par and it mirages the camera. Will the tech developer absolutely just like TouchID, FaceID, OLED, Qi, etc.
Claiming is one thing, proving is another. People claim in 2019 they know what Steve Jobs would do.

I bet if Apple released this tech with the same spec sheet, you would be the first to rejoice. Let’s not forget LiquidRetina has a lower ppi compared to the plus. Hmm let’s see, you will go on to say but most won’t notice it, it saves battery, etc, yawn.
What spec sheet are you even referring to? Liquid Retina? Battery? What does this have to do with the thread topic?
 
Woah bro. Take a chill pill. I did not say you did or did not. I said it wasn’t on par, especially given some output on these forums.

Have you tested one out, reviewed a physical device in person or own one. How are you substantiating your claim.

Since we’re parsing words, oppo claimed the pictures needed the application of software since the quality suffers.

Every company is using software to enhance image capture quality. These company have mentioned it themselves.

Right according to oppo.

Oppo is the maker of that device, so who would know more about this tech.

The problem with the statement is it’s incorrect. You might as well spout any gen 1 product is rubbish. Touch ID gen 1 not being as good as gen 2 doesn’t make that product rubbish.

Same can be said about this as it is technically not competing with any other under display camera, the claim by Oppo is that the quality of image capture is on par. TouchID gen 1 compared to what, any product can be considered good if there is no comparison to make. If gen 1 was so good why release gen 2. I don’t remember a gen 3 TouchID, that means Apple and it’s partners “nailed it” so to speak. If TouchID gen 2 was not great a gen 3 would have been released.

Nightsite, if you call holding the camera steady for 5 seconds wonderful, but it’s a one trick pony.

I don’t know, it sounds like jealousy. Animoji’s don’t work well in low light conditions, you don’t see me bashing it’s implementation or capabilities.

You tell me. I honestly don’t care.

Interesting recourse when you have nothing.

Claiming is one thing, proving is another. People claim in 2019 they know what Steve Jobs would do.

I believe those maybe confused with opinions. Nothing wrong with opinions, are you having a hard time to separate the two.

What spec sheet are you even referring to? Liquid Retina? Battery? What does this have to do with the thread topic?

That an under display camera is inferior, yet other technology that has been released such as LiquidRetina could also be seen as inferior. Oppo has claimed that users will not notice as it is on par, just as Apple has claimed that LiquidRetina low resolution will not be a problem for iPhone Plus users looking to upgrade due to the lower resolution.
 
Have you tested one out, reviewed a physical device in person or own one. How are you substantiating your claim.
"Given some output on these forums", which is what I stated above.

Every company is using software to enhance image capture quality. These company have mentioned it themselves.
Usually not to "enhance" an image because the taking of the picture is akin to a lens looking through a dirty window.

Oppo is the maker of that device, so who would know more about this tech.
Do you believe all vendors claims as such? You're certainly welcome to, that is your preogative.

Same can be said about this as it is technically not competing with any other under display camera, the claim by Oppo is that the quality of image capture is on par. TouchID gen 1 compared to what, any product can be considered good if there is no comparison to make. If gen 1 was so good why release gen 2. I don’t remember a gen 3 TouchID, that means Apple and it’s partners “nailed it” so to speak. If TouchID gen 2 was not great a gen 3 would have been released.
So basically a new product with updated specs, means the manufacturer failed on the prior release? That doesn't track.

I don’t know, it sounds like jealousy. Animoji’s don’t work well in low light conditions, you don’t see me bashing it’s implementation or capabilities.
That's certainly a brilliant deflection, discussing emotional status and then moving on to something off-topic.

Interesting recourse when you have nothing.
Because this was another deflection?

I believe those maybe confused with opinions. Nothing wrong with opinions, are you having a hard time to separate the two.
Claiming is an opinion. Or are you maybe confusing some fact based evidence with an opinion?

That an under display camera is inferior, yet other technology that has been released such as LiquidRetina could also be seen as inferior. Oppo has claimed that users will not notice as it is on par, just as Apple has claimed that LiquidRetina low resolution will not be a problem for iPhone Plus users looking to upgrade due to the lower resolution.
What the heck does liquid retina have to do with anything? You have stretched the line between an honest discussion about this "technology" and throwing anything against the wall to see what sticks.
 
"Given some output on these forums", which is what I stated above.

So if majority of the opinions on this forum are in a similar situation as you, who have not personally reviewed a physical device, used it or own it that opinion is just a claim, where is they substantiation and what does that say about you for just reiterating those claims of others. I asked you if you have personally used or own the device that you are stating that the quality is not on par and instead inferior.

Usually not to "enhance" an image because the taking of the picture is akin to a lens looking through a dirty window.

How do you believe Apple accomplishes “bokeh” or beautify, etc. These are enhancements (subjective) to an image. Once again have you personally reviewed the device or own it and tested it’s front camera to make such a claim that it is like “looking through a dirty window”.

Do you believe all vendors claims as such? You're certainly welcome to, that is your preogative.

Depends on what it is, however it seems you believe unverified claims from forum members vice actually waiting to give it the benefit of the doubt. Like a disgruntle employee. Plus one cannot forget false or misleading advertisements and claims.

So basically a new product with updated specs, means the manufacturer failed on the prior release? That doesn't track.

No it means the prior generation was not acceptable and failed at that attempt. TouchID gen 2 was perfect, if it was not we would have gen 3. Why would Apple or any other manufacturer focus on something if it is perfect, it is illogical.

That's certainly a brilliant deflection, discussing emotional status and then moving on to something off-topic.

Certainly not bothering me if the quality is on par or worse, I do applaud Oppo for it’s implementation and innovation. Had Apple did this, my opinions and feeling would be the same. I believe FaceID is good, not perfect like TouchID gen 2, however Apple will get there. I just feel it is taking longer than usually considering iPad Pro has an edge over in this area.

Because this was another deflection?

Not quite but you are entitled to your opinion.

Claiming is an opinion. Or are you maybe confusing some fact based evidence with an opinion?

Oppo has tested it out, made the required adjustments and has made the claim. It is their product their are liable for false claims. Can you say you have personally tested this Oppo device, if not it is your claim and opinion that you are confusing as fact or is it the that of other forum members are you so stated in your earlier posts.

What the heck does liquid retina have to do with anything? You have stretched the line between an honest discussion about this "technology" and throwing anything against the wall to see what sticks.

Providing an example for comparison within the same tech space, I think you are mistaken to what “sticks to the wall” means.

Oppo claims their under display camera tech is on par, you disagree. I point out that Apple believes that LiquidRetina lower resolution will not be an issue for iPhone Plus users as a comparison of claim by the two companies who believe users will not notice.

You are eager to disclaim zippo without personal evidence, which have no problem with Apple’s claim on LiquidRetina, I presume. I am merely pointing out that the benefit of the doubt has to be provided which you seem quick to believe otherwise according to opinion on this forum.

Get back to me when you have “personally” tested Oppo’s under display camera quality.
 
Pretty incredible to release new 2019 iPhones with the huge ugly notch when Oppo or OnePlus 7 Pro
are so much more advanced and 2x cheaper. [—] How is it gonna feel in late 2020?

Over a year later this device has not been brought to consumers.
 
The video conferencing quality will be low quality no matter what algos they use so praising this as innovation is premature.
 
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