It’s not relevant to mention in an article about an in-screen camera that Apple came up with the idea of an in-screen camera and patented one? Just because they didn’t develop it, that fact is both interesting and obviously relevant to the topic.
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Oppo Unveils 'World's First' Under-Screen Front-Facing Camera
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No, anybody can come up with any idea. If it's so important we should track down the person or the company that for the first time ever thought of an under display photo camera.
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All of those things are more advanced on the OP 7 Pro in comparison to the XR.
So many straw man arguments in here and over what exactly? Anyway, I'm glad that this tech is moving forward, from a Chinese company or not. No, it's not perfected. That said, tech is always improving and evolving - expecting perfection is ignorant. There's always a compromise; the notch is a display real estate compromise, the hidden camera is an image quality compromise.
And there are things more advanced than said phone on the latest iPhone as well. And then there is the next version coming out in September.
Software is used for raw images as well. Different raw converters can produce different looking images, as well as different settings in a given raw converter.
The point about raw is no post processing and the ability to customize your workflow. For example, owning canon equipment I use DPP, which is not a raw converter. But anyway a little a field the point that pictures from an embedded camera require post processing of some sort.
Yeah... I'll gladly take a notch before anything where the camera image gets partially obscured or degraded by the panel in front of it. Even if software could 100% compensate, it's a waste of CPU power to have to do that, vs. just not obstructing the lens!
Oppo: shows prototype device, stating that it's not market ready and still needs lots of tweaking.
MR forums: Apple is 18 years behind in technology, why isn't this being shipped in 100+ million iPhones a year?
MR forums: Apple is 18 years behind in technology, why isn't this being shipped in 100+ million iPhones a year?
I always disregard any new tech that comes out of companies like OPPO, VIVO, XIAOMI, and all those low end brands that comes out of China. They always try to be the first and think thats very important for some reason? The world is not going to perceive them as technically superior in any way...quite the opposite actually most are stolen patents anyway.
The reasons why I ignore and disregard them is because it isn't really advanced tech. If you take away existing features in order to make another work, its not advance tech...its compromise. Take the fingerprint sensor in the screen for example. I don't remember who was first but it was those low end brands I wrote above. It works only 50% of the time and my finger HAS to be 99% accurately in the location. Then Samsung came along with the same concept but with a different tech, a more advanced one (internally and technically completely different). Works flawlessly.
These companies are trying to become the first to everything in order to change their brand perception on an internationally level. But in reality, these companies don't really use advance tech at all, check out a patent Samsung created in 2011 with an embedded camera in their oled screen....they did not implement this because it does not work effectively and will taint user experience. These brands don't care about user experience and use tech that bigger companies like Apple and Samsung chose not to use because these Chinese companies have nothing to lose.
I like to call these "advancements" by these low end companies as 'dirt tech'. Its not really advanced tech. In my experience, real innovation comes from companies that doesn't make compromises and actually uses advanced tech like Apple and Samsung and others.
Remember...all these innovations were possible by other big companies waaaay back but they CHOSE not to use it in their devices. The difference is that these Chinese companies are actually implementing ****** tech in the devices they sell at half baked.
Nothing special. Doesn't count when these guys do it. I will wait for proper innovations from real tech companies.
The reasons why I ignore and disregard them is because it isn't really advanced tech. If you take away existing features in order to make another work, its not advance tech...its compromise. Take the fingerprint sensor in the screen for example. I don't remember who was first but it was those low end brands I wrote above. It works only 50% of the time and my finger HAS to be 99% accurately in the location. Then Samsung came along with the same concept but with a different tech, a more advanced one (internally and technically completely different). Works flawlessly.
These companies are trying to become the first to everything in order to change their brand perception on an internationally level. But in reality, these companies don't really use advance tech at all, check out a patent Samsung created in 2011 with an embedded camera in their oled screen....they did not implement this because it does not work effectively and will taint user experience. These brands don't care about user experience and use tech that bigger companies like Apple and Samsung chose not to use because these Chinese companies have nothing to lose.
I like to call these "advancements" by these low end companies as 'dirt tech'. Its not really advanced tech. In my experience, real innovation comes from companies that doesn't make compromises and actually uses advanced tech like Apple and Samsung and others.
Remember...all these innovations were possible by other big companies waaaay back but they CHOSE not to use it in their devices. The difference is that these Chinese companies are actually implementing ****** tech in the devices they sell at half baked.
Nothing special. Doesn't count when these guys do it. I will wait for proper innovations from real tech companies.
How is it irrelevant? Should at least be mentioned in the article is all I’m saying. And if any behind-the-screen camera is possible, there should be one at eye level for video calls. Try talking to someone face to face and always look slightly above their eyes. Weird, isn’t it?
Same can be said for any gen 1 tech. Do you know of any other phone that has an under display camera.
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Personal preference is symmetry, asymmetry can be argued to be unique. I have a simple rule, symmetry if I am constantly looking at it, or it becomes bothersome, asymmetry if I am not. Yes the notch is also bothersome.
And when the next iphone will have exactly those features, you will be the first in line to argue that it's worth to upgrade from the current iPhones.
That works better than non-under the display camera? In other words, under the display camera doesn't advance the art of photography.
I'm going to claim it was me! 30 years ago!
Prove me wrong
you are aware that yes, Even DSLR's are compensated by software...
if you want no software, go back to film. I know I sure as hell wouldn't want to do that. I grew up with film. Yuck
Under display works on par to what is available now, or so it is claimed.
How is it that Google can have better low light pictures with one camera on the rear and Apple cannot do any better with two. To play into your claim Apple’s implementation of dual rear cameras advances nothing in low light conditions compared to one.
No it doesn’t.
How come google is inferior in every other aspect: video, color rendition etc. To play into my claim, smart hdr, dynamic video advances the art of photography. Under the display camera does not not.
I believe you need to relax, I did not make that claim, Oppo did. Have you read the article, I said so it is claimed. I neither agree or disagreed that it is on par.
You claimed that under display camera tech is inferior, I mentioned that according to Oppo it is on par with what is available on the market and will improve. I also mentioned that TouchID gen 1 was rubbish and gen 2 was excellent. I agreed with many review sites that NightSight in low light is better than what Apple has and it accomplishes it with one camera. Stating that just because one has more of something does not make it better.
Please inform me how Apple has placed a camera with inferior quality on MBA 2018 and MB. Compared to the pre 2018 MBA models it is noticeable. What is the excuse, the display is too thin, how about Apple is making it bezel-less. At least Oppo is claiming that we have a camera under the display that is on par and it mirages the camera. Will the tech developer absolutely just like TouchID, FaceID, OLED, Qi, etc.
I bet if Apple released this tech with the same spec sheet, you would be the first to rejoice. Let’s not forget LiquidRetina has a lower ppi compared to the plus. Hmm let’s see, you will go on to say but most won’t notice it, it saves battery, etc, yawn.