Oracle Reportedly Agrees Deal for TikTok's US Operations, But Chinese Media Cast Doubt on Any Sale

[MacFan782040]

Literately Apple buying TikTok would be the smartest thing they've done in years

 

[Dwalls90]

Literately Apple buying TikTok would be the smartest thing they've done in years

Please no.

 

[winston1236]

Good. They should wait until the last minute of the deadline, fire all American employees and close shop. Do not give into bullies, especially if the bully is the the American government who apparently thinks it can dictate the world.

To be fair both countries have that exact mentality, China's is just more recently formed.

 

[nutmac]

Welp! Good. Now hopefully Trump will ban it.

Oracle's founder and executive chairman Larry Ellison is a big supporter of Trump. If any, I think he will pivot TikTok as GOP friendly social media platform.

 

[DVD9]

housing the video app's data in Oracle's cloud servers

Load the Chyyyyyna Trojan onto Oracles servers here.

 

[Nordichund]

My concern is what and who is next? Here in Europe it is like watching a tennis match, at the end of the day my money is on the Chinese.

 

[Dwalls90]

Oracle's founder and executive chairman Larry Ellison is a big supporter of Trump. If any, I think he will pivot TikTok as GOP friendly social media platform.

It's so sad that in 2020 every major company seems to be aligned with a political party.

Facebook: GOP
Twitter: Democratic
Goya: GOP
NFL: Democratic

Just goes to show how divided our country has become in the last 4 years.

 

[true god]

Very good. Should ban this silly app altogether.

 

[zorinlynx]

Oracle destroys everything they buy. So if they buy TikTok, RIP TikTok.

 

[justperry]

Very hypocritical of China to say that it will not allow IP and software code to be in the hands of a US company but it has no problems stealing IP or software code from US companies.

Or

Very hypocritical of the states to ban TikTok while there are dozens of American Apps which are extremely shady/a lot worse.

There is no prove China is using Tiktok, has a backdoor.

Just political crap.

As if American companies don't steal IP.🤔

 

[Alan Wynn]

Very hypocritical of China to say that it will not allow IP and software code to be in the hands of a US company but it has no problems stealing IP or software code from US companies.

Not hypocritical at all. They are not arguing that this is a balanced position, just that they look for a one-way relationship. Not sustainable, but not hypocritical.

 

[Alan Wynn]

Good. They should wait until the last minute of the deadline, fire all American employees and close shop. Do not give into bullies, especially if the bully is the the American government who apparently thinks it can dictate the world.

Given that they claim they are not a Chinese company (they are incorporated in the Cayman Islands), to say that they are standing up to one country (the U.S.) by appeasing another one (China) is a show of strength seems amusing.

 

[wood1208]

Just like all these years, Chinese making totally fool of Americans. Tik-Tok is partnering with Oracle, not selling to Oracle or USA based company. Means data will be moved to Oracle cloud but Tik-Tok still owns Code,Data, Algorithms which US national security wanted to stop.
Similar strategy Chinese used against American companies in China with front end fake shell corporation entity.

 

[Alan Wynn]

To be fair both countries have that exact mentality, China's is just more recently formed.

Really? They have been forcing companies that operate in China to give their technology to joint ventures for years. Long before President Trump, probably started before VP Biden was a Senator (a long, long time ago).

 

[Alan Wynn]

Oracle destroys everything they buy. So if they buy TikTok, RIP TikTok.

Not a fan of Oracle's but I think they did well with PeopleSoft. Curious what companies they bought that you feel they destroyed.

 

[wigby]

China the ones that brought you covid19 and now this

China’s not the only country who can take and idea and run with it faster and further than anyone else.

 

[Smith288]

Good. They should wait until the last minute of the deadline, fire all American employees and close shop. Do not give into bullies, especially if the bully is the the American government who apparently thinks it can dictate the world.

Yup... The bullies are the Americans... Not the communist regime who imprisons Muslims, beats dissenters and steals IP from every tech firm with half a good idea. Get out of here...

 

[Smith288]

I’d say USA fails to realise they are just one step short to become another China, the very country they are very vocal against. Also dictatorship and authoritarian regime.
Obviously going Cold War against China is not a viable long term strategy. But yeah, things like this happened.
Time will tell.

The USA isnt even 100 steps short of being another China. Ridiculous that people think this is even remotely true.

 

[Alan Wynn]

The USA isnt even 100 steps short of being another China. Ridiculous that people think this is even remotely true.

You only feel that way because you do not know about the underground bunker holding the lizard people bellow Denver International Airport!

 

[AdonisSMU]

Unfortunately I have to agree. That's at least 1,400 more Americans unemployed, and Tik Tok was planning to employ up to 10,000 more Americans in the coming years. Not exactly great policy given the recession and unemployment numbers.

I'm not saying Tik Tok is totally innocent. Their apps seem to have a similar level of "spyware" that Facebook has. But if the US was truly worried about these concerns, then they would have taken serious action against Facebook after data harvesting and allowing 2016 election interference. Not sure why Americans feel fine if a US company or government has their information, but are up in arms if a foreign power does. In case anyone didn't already know this, the second any data is collected on you, you're extremely naive to think it can't ever be hacked or otherwise shared. This is why it's best that data isn't collected in the first place, regardless of the app or country it's run out of. If we're being honest, this isn't really about the nature of what Tik Tok's app or the CCP may be up to, its just more tit-for-tat foreign policy. Blame China for the virus. Blame China for Tik Tok. Blame China for taking jobs that are realistically never coming back to the United States. And you can't forget the fact Tik Tok embarrassed Trump after the Tulsa rally.

The US thinks it can go Cold War against China or countries that don't do as they dictate, and that's not a viable long term strategy. Starting to sound an awfully lot like Russia.

This isnt about cold war. China has Google and other US companies and products banned. Turnaround is fair play.

 

[macdos]

Not. Google left China of its own device, because they couldn't accept the local law.

No US company is banned in China. And even if that was the case, it is kinda silly first letting Chinese companies into the states, just to ban them later. That's changing the rules ad hoc.

This isnt about cold war. China has Google and other US companies and products banned. Turnaround is fair play.

 

[macdos]

And you brought the spanish flu, aids, the swine flu and the world wide pandemic of corn syrup fueled soda pop obesity.

China the ones that brought you covid19 and now this

 

[Alan Wynn]

Not. Google left China of its own device, because they couldn't accept the local law.

Google left China because they could not run their product there. Hard to say that it was their choice, given that they were a search engine that would not have been allowed to search most of the internet thanks to the Great Firewall.

it is kinda silly first letting Chinese companies into the states, just to ban them later. That's changing the rules ad hoc.

Nope. Companies get the benefit of the doubt until it is shown they are in violation of a U.S. law and then they can be banned. If they feel their treatment is illegal, they can appeal to the U.S. courts. By the way, Byte Dance claims they are not a Chinese company, but you claim they are. Who is right?

 

[Dwalls90]

This isnt about cold war. China has Google and other US companies and products banned. Turnaround is fair play.

Google isn't banned. Which other companies are you speaking of?

An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. I thought the US wanted to be considered the country all countries sought to be. If we lower ourselves to China, are we any better?

 

[macdos]

I don' t think you understand what the GFW is. It does not apply within China, which is precisely why Google wanted to be in China. But if they are in China, they need to comply with local law, just like they have to do in Germany and France (hate speech, nazi memorabilia, holocaust denial) or Australia (small tittie pr0n).

As for the second part, if the "president" orders a company to get the hell out for "security reasons", no court is going to challenge that.

Google left China because they could not run their product there. Hard to say that it was their choice, given that they were a search engine that would not have been allowed to search most of the internet thanks to the Great Firewall.

Nope. Companies get the benefit of the doubt until it is shown they are in violation of a U.S. law and then they can be banned. If they feel their treatment is illegal, they can appeal to the U.S. courts. By the way, Byte Dance claims they are not a Chinese company, but you claim they are. Who is right?