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As for the second part, if the "president" orders a company to get the hell out for "security reasons", no court is going to challenge that.

Not sure where you have been for the last three years, but many courts have ruled against President Trump's Executive Orders. You might want to look into that.
 
Not a fan of Oracle's but I think they did well with PeopleSoft. Curious what companies they bought that you feel they destroyed.

I know there have been a few, but the one I know most about and has affected me most (professionally) is when they acquired Sun.

- They immediately closed source Solaris and ZFS, both of which had large communities contributing code. It was like a slap in the face.
- They immediately changed licenses for several Sun-owned technologies, especially Java, such that there were more restrictions on usage.
- They neglected the SPARC architecture (which we were quite invested in at the time) and eventually stopped development and sold it off.

Basically they bought Sun and got rid of all the great things about it.

Oracle has a certain greed about them; anything they buy will be squeezed to get as much profit as possible out of it; screw the community.
 
Just wait until President Trump win again and they'll shut their trap. Right now, they're just stalling until they get a puppet in the White House to do their bidding. When President Trump wins again, they'll either give in or lose U.S. customers. Either way, I don't install chinese spyware on my devices, so good riddance!
 
Google isn't banned. Which other companies are you speaking of?

An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. I thought the US wanted to be considered the country all countries sought to be. If we lower ourselves to China, are we any better?
US always want to be role model,good world citizen and some extent good police but when someone like China keep screwing not US but rest of world than this reminds me "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
 
I know there have been a few, but the one I know most about and has affected me most (professionally) is when they acquired Sun.

Ok. I am curious if you think there was another option for Sun? Do you think it could have remained independent and had any hope?

- They immediately closed source Solaris and ZFS, both of which had large communities contributing code. It was like a slap in the face.

Sun open sourced both Solaris and ZFS (with an incredibly restrictive license) at the point they could not afford to develop them on their own. I thought the move on Oracle's part was dumb, but I am not sure it really had any impact on ZFS and I think Solaris was on a path to doom already. As an aside, it was that license (that allowed Sun to return it to closed source whenever they wanted) and Jonathan Swartz's inability to keep his mouth shut that eliminated ZFS as part of macOS.

- They immediately changed licenses for several Sun-owned technologies, especially Java, such that there were more restrictions on usage.

This one I know about bit more about. They did not really change the licenses, as much as start enforcing them. Again, Sun's Java license restrictions were among the reasons Microsoft opposed its adoption for things like set top boxes.

- They neglected the SPARC architecture (which we were quite invested in at the time) and eventually stopped development and sold it off.

SPARC was doomed, in exactly the same way as PowerPC and PA-RISC were. Sun just did not have enough money or a large enough customer base to spend what it would have needed to keep them competitive. Had Oracle not bought them, the result would have been the same.

Basically they bought Sun and got rid of all the great things about it.

I am not sure when you started using Sun Microsystems gear, but as someone whose first Sun Microsystems machine was based on the Stanford design, I have tracked them since the beginning. Oracle was able to buy them because under Jonathan Shwartz they were on a path to destruction. They had lost most of their best engineering talent to other valley companies and were flailing. To blame Oracle for their demise is a bit skewed.

Oracle has a certain greed about them; anything they buy will be squeezed to get as much profit as possible out of it; screw the community.

MySQL seems to still be doing well. So does VirtualBox. Both seem to hav solid, ongoing development. Both are still open source.
 
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Please no.

I bet you never even used it. You probably don’t even understand it. The videocreation tools, the young user base, the connection to music, the algorithms, the advertising possibilities — this is the deal of the decade right here. If you laugh at that you just haven’t done your research.
 

I remember reading that low quality article from the fake news New York Times. They Are doing everything they can to make the president look bad.

The travel ban on China was very effective to delay the spread to the US and to fan on Europe was also started as soon as cases there started increasing.

Bidens Europeans friends are the ones mainly responsible for the spread to the west as they were to slow, politically correct and weak to ban Chinese travelers.
 
I remember reading that low quality article from the fake news New York Times. They Are doing everything they can to make the president look bad.

The travel ban on China was very effective to delay the spread to the US and to fan on Europe was also started as soon as cases there started increasing.

Bidens Europeans friends are the ones mainly responsible for the spread to the west as they were to slow, politically correct and weak to ban Chinese travelers.

Ah yes, newspapers of record are fake news but a president who tells 20k lies is honest.

Double plus group think.
 
I bet you never even used it. You probably don’t even understand it. The videocreation tools, the young user base, the connection to music, the algorithms, the advertising possibilities — this is the deal of the decade right here. If you laugh at that you just haven’t done your research.

I say this because Apple tried social media already and failed. It’s not their core competency. Let them focus on what they excel at.

Also, 2020 has shown us that social media isn’t productive to society. It would be a tone deaf time for Apple to consider such an acquisition.
 
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Not sure where you have been for the last three years, but many courts have ruled against President Trump's Executive Orders. You might want to look into that.

macdos has a severe confirmation bias. “Anything China does is justified, anything the Chinese government says is the truth. Anything the U.S. does is unjustified, anything the U.S. government says is a lie. Evidence to the contrary is false” is basically what you can apply to all of their political posts.
 
Or

Very hypocritical of the states to ban TikTok while there are dozens of American Apps which are extremely shady/a lot worse.

There is no prove China is using Tiktok, has a backdoor.

Just political crap.

As if American companies don't steal IP.🤔
Backdoor:
Agreed, but we will never know now that they are refusing to give the source code amongst the assets being sold... I can only imagine they must be having something quite sneaky tucked away in there... I mean, I would doubt there’s any rocket science technology of extreme value buried in there, mostly skeletons being hidden maybe.

IPs:
The US companies also copy IPs, but at least the parties have a recourse of action, also why there’s constant patents wars too. With China there’s no defense whatsoever, Apple launches the iPhone 3G and some weeks later there’s “HiPhone”, which looks and feels quite similar and fooled me for a few seconds, but upon looking closer the font in the slide to unlock was not the same and many other things were “close” but not quite, felt really bad experience wise.
 
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