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What’s not completely correct about the gen 1 Apple Pencil is the method of charging. Although you are correct that one way to charge it is by inserting the pencil connector into the ipad port, you can also purchase a cheap connector that allows you to charge the gen 1 pencil with the ipad usb charging cable instead. Granted, it may not be the convenience some folks are looking for, but it’s far cheaper than an upgrade to the newer iPad Pro and Apple Pencil gen 2. Mine still works fine and I charge it using both methods, often using the cable with adapter for the reasons you had stated when it’s plugged directly into the ipad port.
I also am perfectly happy with the original pencil. Still working well for me and I’m able to put a silicone grip on it that doesn’t get in the way of charging - I use the adapter to USB port.
 
Well there is nothing wrong with the first pencil, but the second gives so much less friction. It’s another thing I don’t have to worry about. Always charged, always ready, fixed spot.
Indeed you can’t/hardly can use sleeves, but I’ve never used those anyway.
It’s a lot like the AirPods, they don’t give the very best Hifi sound, they don’t drown out noise and they aren’t the perfect fit. but they are really make using them for a podcast, but of background Netflix or watching uni lectures so much easier. Don’t think, just use them. Isn’t that what all devices should do; become second nature, a frictionless user experience?
 
“I have a stylus. It’s my finger”

Steve-O jobs, summer 2007
Jobs would have had pencils too if he was pitching to artists and note-takers. He said a lot of things which were only accurate at that moment and became less so later, like everyone else.
 
Jobs would have had pencils too if he was pitching to artists and note-takers.

Yup.

The "who wants a stylus?" quote is taken way out of context, in part because Steve had a penchant for hyperbole. What he didn't want is a UI like Windows CE or PalmOS with controls so small they heavily rely on a stylus. Being able to directly interact with the screen using your finger made for a much nicer experience. If you had asked him about a drawing app in particular, though, I highly doubt he would have considered the finger the ideal input device.
 
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I wouldn't say "prone." Although cylindrical, Pencil 1 is weighted on one side to help prevent that from occurring. Clever design.

Interesting that they missed that in the review, funny I just got a Pencil 1 today for my new iPad and had to check that out, ha! Sits on my desk and if I bump it it rolls back to where it was because of the weighting...
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That was originally for the 1st gen. In Jerry Rig's video he mentions 2nd gen tip can't be replaced. Anyone actually tried replacing the tip in the 2nd gen pencil and not assuming?

Hmmm with Apple’s recent marketing strategies, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pencil 2 tip isn’t replaceable as a way of making consumers buy more... o_O
 
I am a dedicated Apple user from 2008, several laptops a 2018 iPad Pro w/pencil and two HomePods personally & 15 iMacs & 5 iPads and 2 iPad minis at work (paperless contract manufacturing facility).

While the pencil is very useful on the iPad and is worth owning (barely), it is a ridiculously poorly designed product. Outside the lollipop charge design, the battery charge is way too short, no led charge indicator or other indicator other than the extremely intrusive pop up on the iPad (even when using an app that has nothing to do with the pencil). This is the second most poorly designed product from Apple behind the HomePod as the worst product Apple has ever introduced IMO. I am now in a holding pattern for a new iPad pro until the next model release but even as useful as the pencil is I am doubtful I will spend the $130 for another poorly designed product.

I miss Steve Jobs and can’t stand that Apple is almost all iPhone and different sizes now with no ability to introduce impressive products. Too much money and too lazy to really try and no leadership to demand better…sorry for the rant.
 
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I am a dedicated Apple user from 2008, several laptops a 2018 iPad Pro w/pencil and two HomePods personally & 15 iMacs & 5 iPads and 2 iPad minis at work (paperless contract manufacturing facility).

While the pencil is very useful on the iPad and is worth owning (barely), it is a ridiculously poorly designed product. Outside the lollipop charge design, the battery charge is way too short, no led charge indicator or other indicator other than the extremely intrusive pop up on the iPad (even when using an app that has nothing to do with the pencil). This is the second most poorly designed product from Apple behind the HomePod as the worst product Apple has ever introduced IMO. I am now in a holding pattern for a new iPad pro until the next model release but even as useful as the pencil is I am doubtful I will spend the $130 for another poorly designed product.

I miss Steve Jobs and can’t stand that Apple is almost all iPhone and different sizes now with no ability to introduce impressive products. Too much money and too lazy to really try and no leadership to demand better…sorry for the rant.
The Apple Pencil one charging design is no different than charging an iPhone you use the cable, one of the extra benefits is one can use an iDevice to charge the pencil if you are on the go and run out of charge, the charging design is not as daft as most claim taken all out of context.
 
The Apple Pencil one charging design is no different than charging an iPhone you use the cable, one of the extra benefits is one can use an iDevice to charge the pencil if you are on the go and run out of charge, the charging design is not as daft as most claim taken all out of context.
The charging situation on the gen 1 pencil is bad no matter how one looks at it. Yes, there are two ways to charge it, but both are cumbersome/inconvenient. The “secondary” method of sticking it in the iPad port is actually the lesser of the evils. With the other method, you have to deal with a usb wall adapter, lightning cable, lightning reverse adapter, and hunt down a wall outlet—which will then charge it much slower.

Not to mention, if one keeps their pencil in their bag (and doesn’t want a dead battery every time they go to use it), one is forced to plug the pencil into the iPad to pair it every time to use it. Because, ridiculously, the only way to actually turn the pencil off is to unpair it.
 
The charging situation on the gen 1 pencil is bad no matter how one looks at it.

I'm confused. @Dean Jensen said "2018 iPad Pro", so presumably they have the Pencil 2?

While the pencil is very useful on the iPad and is worth owning (barely), it is a ridiculously poorly designed product. Outside the lollipop charge design,

I don't know what this means, and it seems to refer to the Pencil 1 (which doesn't work on the 2018 iPad Pro)?

the battery charge is way too short, no led charge indicator or other indicator other than the extremely intrusive pop up on the iPad (even when using an app that has nothing to do with the pencil).

I don't understand this criticism. Should the pencil show no popup at all? Or only one when an app uses it? But then, if the app uses it, you would preferably not charge the pencil but rather discharge it, no?
 
I'm confused. @Dean Jensen said "2018 iPad Pro", so presumably they have the Pencil 2?
I was responding to the person I quoted (insoft), not to Dean Jensen.

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Oh I see what you’re saying. The person I responded to made the assumption Dean was talking about the gen 1 pencil, as did I. I agree, that isn’t clear. The lollipop reference seems to indicate gen 1, everything else seems to indicate gen 2.
 
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I’m mostly happy with the switch to USB-C on the new iPad - that means I’d probably be in the market for a new pencil anyway seeing as there is no longer a lightning port to charge the new pencil. And I genuinely do not want any more adaptors.

The price increase does sting...

I love the charging process for the new pencil... but I prefer the feel of the Apple Pencil 1.

What I’d REALLY love now is a non-glass, matte screen protector to create a paper-like texture while using the pencil.

I can vouch for this product, it makes a unbelievable difference:

Worth the cost.
 
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