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Yes, but again, that is a personal question. For some people it does solve a problem. Those are the people looking forward to finding out more about it. For others they enjoy the status quo and they find zero utility in it. So it really is a subjective, not objective question as most tech is. People don't know what they are missing until they try it out.

But millions of activity bands have already been sold with each successive generation getting "smarter" and more connected. So I don't really think there is debate whether there is demand for a really great smart watch, it's just whether that demand transcends a niche market.

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Yes, but that isn't what your original post stated. You didn't single out the screen. You stated that no existing product had any of the features of the iPhone by far. That's just not true. There were touch screens -- they just had to be used with a stylus. As I said the iPhone's ground breaking was in ease of use -- that was new. But none of the spec sheet features were unique to the iPhone. They were at best "improved." In fact the original iPhone didn't even have SMS.

Which post are you referring to?

Edit: I think you misinterpreted what I was implying. By "touch and browsing experience never seen before" I wasn't string that we literally never saw a touch screen or a browser. The quality was just so far beyond anything that we have seen before. Apologies for the misunderstanding. That's why I'm scratching my head at YOR responses lol.
 
The Apple Watch has only an accelerometer. We'll see how accurate that is at "measuring" distance.

I often do 10-15 mile runs at a time, and I do enjoy using GPS to know where I am in case I get lost on a trail. It's also nice to see where I've gone after I'm done, in case I want to do that same run again.

You ask why we want a watch with built-in GPS? Run a marathon with a phone in your hand, or even strapped to your side in a belt that is chaffing your skin as it bounces up and down. Then you'll know why.

I haven't figured out how so many people are experts on the Apple Watch when it hasn't been released yet.

You make good points but running on trails and marathons fall under extreme cases and don't cover 95% of athletic users. Apple Watch is not a serious training tool the same way no Android or even Microsoft wearable are serious for serious athletes. It's cool to see your running path and compare but I would think that you only need a heart rate monitor if you're interested in general health and you only need a calorie counter if you're interested in weight loss. Apple Watch should provide that data just fine.
 
Which post are you referring to?

Edit: I think you misinterpreted what I was implying. By "touch and browsing experience never seen before" I wasn't string that we literally never saw a touch screen or a browser. The quality was just so far beyond anything that we have seen before. Apologies for the misunderstanding. That's why I'm scratching my head at YOR responses lol.

OK, I'll try again...

You compared/contrasted the Gen 1 Apple Watch with the Gen 1 iPhone this way
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Gen 1 apple watch really isn't doing anything we haven't seen before. Literally every feature in the thing has been done. That was not at all the case with gen 1 iphone. Far from it.

I read this as you saying Gen 1 Apple Watch - nothing we haven't see before. Gen 1 iPhone "that was not at all the case...Far from it"

My point is that the total feature set on the Gen 1 iPhone predated it. The features were not new. The iPhone just improved on them with help of a ground breaking OS. The Apple Watch features that we know of also exist in other products today. But there is no watch that works like the Apple Watch just like there was no phone that worked like the iPhone.

So your comparison is a bit stilted because, at least the way its written, you make it sound like the iPhone was an all-new concept when it was really the next generation smartphone. The original iPhone and Apple Watch have more in common than you let on.
 
OK, I'll try again...

You compared/contrasted the Gen 1 Apple Watch with the Gen 1 iPhone this way
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I read this as you saying Gen 1 Apple Watch - nothing we haven't see before. Gen 1 iPhone "that was not at all the case...Far from it"

My point is that the total feature set on the Gen 1 iPhone predated it. The features were not new. The iPhone just improved on them with help of a ground breaking OS. The Apple Watch features that we know of also exist in other products today. But there is no watch that works like the Apple Watch just like there was no phone that worked like the iPhone.

So your comparison is a bit stilted because, at least the way its written, you make it sound like the iPhone was an all-new concept when it was really the next generation smartphone. The original iPhone and Apple Watch have more in common than you let on.

No. You're right (I thought I made that clear but I guess I'm striking out today). What made it onto the page was not what was going on in my head. That's why, in later posts, I even mentioned reserving final judgement until I see and try the actual product.

What I meant to say was the iphone did some things leaps and bounds better than the competition. I don't see that beig the case with Apple watch, based solely on preliminary reports and information provided by apple and the media.

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OK, I'll try again...

You compared/contrasted the Gen 1 Apple Watch with the Gen 1 iPhone this way
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I read this as you saying Gen 1 Apple Watch - nothing we haven't see before. Gen 1 iPhone "that was not at all the case...Far from it"

My point is that the total feature set on the Gen 1 iPhone predated it. The features were not new. The iPhone just improved on them with help of a ground breaking OS. The Apple Watch features that we know of also exist in other products today. But there is no watch that works like the Apple Watch just like there was no phone that worked like the iPhone.

So your comparison is a bit stilted because, at least the way its written, you make it sound like the iPhone was an all-new concept when it was really the next generation smartphone. The original iPhone and Apple Watch have more in common than you let on.

No. You're right (I thought I made that clear but I guess I'm striking out today). What made it onto the page was not what was going on in my head. That's why, in later posts, I even mentioned reserving final judgement until I see and try the actual product.

I also had the original phone and had a lot of the gripes other did about lack of MMS (we were all supposed to be using email instead, remember that?) as well as copy and paste. But the ability to actuall browse a web page using nothing but my fingers without throwing the phone out the window was what sold me. I just don't think that's where we are with current smart watches. They aren't clunky unusable monstrosities that I want to throw in the Fire.

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Good god. I'm done trying to edit posts on my phone. Hopefully you get the gist of what I'm trying to say. If not, no real loss lol.
 
Today's reporting on CNBC shows orders of 5-6m watches from Apple which seems low to me. Perhaps they expect lower initial uptake than analysts and want to possibly do a mid-season update to version 2.

It looks like the main goal is V 1.0 for WWDC and early adopters.

Rocketman

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I'm still not sold on suffering with a tiny 2" screen on my wrist rather than just taking two seconds to pull out a phone. Time will tell what Apple decides to do with this product line to make it more unique and appealing.
Since you asked . . . The use case seems to be vibrational notifications, Siri centric OS, minimalistic visual notifications, and audio I/O which allows for text to voice, voice to text, etc.

While we're chatting, don't forget the category is called "wearables". Do not be surprised to see a pendant and necklace option, an earpiece, and a shoepad with bluetooth comm to the watch and phone.

Rocketman
 
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So if the Apple Watch is something that interests you then just buy and try now. No point in waiting. Now if its not something that you are even considering why even complain about Gen 1?

Great statement. I don't understand it either. I have never made a negative comment on these forums or anywhere about Apple TV. Why? I never saw it as a product I could use and so I've ignored it. Why complain?

Now if you have an Apple Watch and want to complain about some shortcomings or desires...
 
Today's reporting on CNBC shows orders of 5-6m watches from Apple which seems low to me. Perhaps they expect lower initial uptake than analysts and want to possibly do a mid-season update to version 2.

It looks like the main goal is V 1.0 for WWDC and early adopters.

Rocketman

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Since you asked . . . The use case seems to be vibrational notifications, Siri centric OS, minimalistic visual notifications, and audio I/O which allows for text to voice, voice to text, etc.

While we're chatting, don't forget the category is called "wearables". Do not be surprised to see a pendant and necklace option, an earpiece, and a shoepad with bluetooth comm to the watch and phone.

Rocketman
People often want to see 200 million units sold for it to be considered a "success".

iPhone 1: ~5 million units in the first year
iPhone 3G: ~15 million units
iPhone 3GS:~29 million units
iPhone 4: ~57 million units
iPhone 4S: ~110 million units
iPhone 5: ~145 million units
iPhone 5S: ~160 million units
iPhone 6: ~74.5 million units (so far)

Let's go to the iPhone 1 sales, and if they sell the 20 million in the first year, I'll consider it a success, given that:
1. The amount of apps to choose will grow rapidly
2. When people invest in an ecosystem, they don't want to lose their investment in apps (say you love this app on your watch, it is human nature to want it on your next watch)
3. The "it" factor. They've pent it up for 5 months now, and it'll be fun to see it released.

I am quite confident in the success of the Apple Watch.
 
I'm still waiting to see if they make a band? Look odd wearing two watches. I like the small devices, like my 3rd Gen iPod Nano that I still use everyday, the software and design is very clever. So perhaps the software on the Apple Watch will be just as clever, I think the design is smart, better than any Android Wear device so far, the Apple Watch looks better quality?
 
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diehard apple fans will buy anything. i bet if the watch dropped all the features except for telling time, herds will still line up for it. just saying. i would love to see a social experiment on this.
 
People will be quoting and laughing at you for years to come

Yeah because when someone makes a prediction and ends up being wrong, that's really humiliating :rolleyes:

While you're at it, feel free to laugh at me for years too: There's going to be an earthquake in Cupertino tomorrow.

Honestly, it doesn't matter to me whether or not the Apple Watch does well, because I'm a consumer and I have no stake in Apple. What's disappointing is that the Apple Watch was supposed to "get it right", just as many say Apple is known to do. When they release a product, they may not be the earliest to release it, but when they do, you can bet that it's a lot more easy to use and practical than anything else on the market. Given that it's going to be missing all of these features, what differentiates the Apple Watch from any other smart watch that's already on the market? Even if the Apple watch does extremely well, it doesn't matter if Apple's MO from now on is to release products missing key features.
 
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@Patriot24
Your diatribe might make sense, if only the iPhone came with 3G, which it didn't.
What was the excuse, then? Was, as you put it, "the tech not ready"?
And if only the iPad came with a camera, which it didn't.
What was the excuse, then? Was, as you put it, "the tech not ready"?

You know as well as all of us do, Apple absolutely deliberately hobbles 1st gen stuff
in order to make the next version of it seem that much cooler.
This non-Steve boondoggle will fail hard, as smartwatches have already fallen out of favor
with the general gadget-buying mainstream public.
Apple Watch is the answer to a question nobody's asking.

And Yosemite is a buggy mess.
 
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@Patriot24
Your diatribe might make sense, if only the iPhone came with 3G, which it didn't.
What was the excuse, then? Was, as you put it, "the tech not ready"?
And if only the iPad came with a camera, which it didn't.
What was the excuse, then? Was, as you put it, "the tech not ready"?

You know as well as all of us do, Apple absolutely deliberately hobbles 1st gen stuff
in order to make the next version of it seem that much cooler.
This non-Steve boondoggle will fail hard, as smartwatches have already fallen out of favor
with the general gadget-buying general public.
Apple Watch is the answer to a question nobody's asking.

And Yosemite is a buggy mess.

To fall out of favor it actually needs to be in favor first. There has been no successful smart watch up to now. So, not sure what on earth your saying. Too much coffee?
 
@Patriot24
Your diatribe might make sense, if only the iPhone came with 3G, which it didn't.
What was the excuse, then? Was, as you put it, "the tech not ready"?

...You know as well as all of us do, Apple absolutely deliberately hobbles 1st gen stuff
in order to make the next version of it seem that much cooler.

You can't think of a single other reason Apple may have chosen not to include 3G in the first generation iPhone in 2007 other than deliberately hobbling it?
 
You can't think of a single other reason Apple may have chosen not to include 3G in the first generation iPhone in 2007 other than deliberately hobbling it?

One of the other reasons was because ATT didn't have a network built out at all. They waited a year because it would have been a problem anyway.

Another reason was to hit the $20 unlimited Data for the 1st phone so it didn't sound expensive.
 
Easy there, pallie. We all know how much you worship everything Apple does.
And I'll have you know that I don't allow anything but Fair Trade products in my home,
and that especially includes the coffee!

The usual "you love Apple" drone; no response : original (sic).

I don't usually love things; must have me confused with someone else.
Going back to my last post.. There can be no falling out of favor of smart watches if none have been in favor (700K sales across dozens of models)

My coffee quip only related to the frenetic nature of your first post. I don't care what self imposed tax comforts your coffee buying habit.
 
It doesn't matter if there are less health tracking features. App developers can find methods to track health related stuff by being innovative or using different measuring tools. The Apple Watch will still sell since most of the average Apple consumer doesn't care about tangibles like sensors. They want to pair their phone with a customized watch even if the price is astronomically high for the quality of the product. I am going to pass on the Apple Watch, but Gen 2 could be good.
 
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