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OS X 10.10 to Feature 'Flatter' Look, but Not as Stark as iOS 7

captain cadet said:
Still, to most people who use OSX Use it as they don't understand computers as well and don't care about its model number. To them 10.10 will look like 10.1 and people will google that and see the old OSX not the new. Apple put in their 30 years mac ad that it's used because it uses the same language as humans. - imagine going into apple store and saying what operating system does this run and getting back "10.10 sir - the latest and greatest!" People will already lose interest as most people in school got taught of 0.8 0.9 1.0 1.1 and so on and not how developers number things! I can tell you now that OS10.10 seems to be too complex but OS10.9 doesn't!
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First of all, in what context would a user refer to 10.10 as 10.1 and have this be a confusing mess. Will the Mac App Store somehow install Puma instead of the successor to Mavericks? Of course not.

Secondly, can you show us where Tiger caused any issues for users because it not only went from 10.4.9 to 10.4.10 but also to 10.4.11? I don't recall any sort of issues with people taking 10.4.11 and then doing long division to restart it as 10.5.1. Do you?

Finally, I bet if you asked 01100100 people to read off 10.4.10 or 10.4.11 all 0x64 would state it pretty much as "ten dot four dot ten" or "ten point four point eleven," respectively, not "ten dot four dot one" or "ten point five point one."
 
solipsism said:
Secondly, if you can show us where Tiger caused any issues for users because it not only went from 10.4.9 to 10.4.10 but also to 10.4.11 without any sort of issues with people taking 10.4.11 and then doing long division to restart it as 10.5.1.
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Actually there have been cases where .10 versions of OSX were mistakenly interpreted as .1 by apps and users saw errors like "you need to be running version .4 or newer". But those should be avoidable, Apple would just really need to warn developers not to screw that up.
 
myrtlebee said:
I hope they make it exactly like iOS 7 for continuity's sake. Why go in these incremental steps when it's obvious that they will eventually shift to iOS' look entirely?
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Because it won't be shifting to iOS' look. iOS and OSX are made for seperate experiences. This news article states that apple has no plans to merge the two OS'.
 
Sven11 said:
I really don't get it why many people are so resistent to change, especially when the don't know how the end result will look like, and when they know they don't even test it. That's also the reason why many people are still working with stoneaged Windows XP. :rolleyes:
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It's not "resistence" to change.

It's a fundamental disagreement in iOS 7's design choices. The fact that we pretty much know that Apple will make OS X look like that is disconcerting for many, myself included.

I abhor the cartoony iOS look. I feel it's trendy in an 80's, retro, neon-inspired kind-of-way.

I feel OS X (ML) and iOS 6's look was far classier, neutral, and timeless.

Apple is nuking Steve's influence in the OSes design aesthetics. He was the one with taste, and apparently, the only one unfortunately.

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TheRainKing said:
*throws up violently*
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Agreed. Had to clean my keyboard before posting...:D
 
milo said:
Actually there have been cases where .10 versions of OSX were mistakenly interpreted as .1 by apps and users saw errors like "you need to be running version .4 or newer". But those should be avoidable, Apple would just really need to warn developers not to screw that up.
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Lazy and/or myopic developers are a constant concern and even though this is so far the best argument against double digits in version numbers it doesn't apply to the OS version.
 
Who cares how its numbered. One thing from iOS7 I'd like to see on OSX is the frost glass effect. Cool effect.
 
So far the only thing i've gleaned from this post is that people really don't comprehend versioning.

10.10

Major version: 10 (x)
Minor version: 10

Each number is separate in the build numbering scheme and only joined by decimals for simplicity and brevity.
 
Prepare for this :D
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edgonzalez32 said:
Because it won't be shifting to iOS' look. iOS and OSX are made for seperate experiences. This news article states that apple has no plans to merge the two OS'.
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For the tenth time, I am not talking about merging the two operating systems. I am talking about bringing a common design to each -- which was the case between OSX and iOS before iOS 7.
 
Not quite

koban4max said:
they don't have to fix it...they could drop 10.10 in your face..and you'll upgrade.
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To quote our illustrious president, W,

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”


― George W. Bush
 
Hope it's not like a few previous releases. They'll take out some stuff you like, add in stuff you don't and by accident, more bugs will appear.
 
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a bit of animations or dinamic wallpapers like in iOS7 will be nice, there is nothing wrong. But a little bit not to much to hurt your eyes
 
Serban said:
a bit of animations or dinamic wallpapers like in iOS7 will be nice, there is nothing wrong. But a little bit not to much to hurt your eyes
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As long as you can deactivate them, sure. I'd end up having a seizure in front of a 27" moving wallpaper on my desktop.
 
Awesome! I like the sound of a flatter look, and since it's not as stark as iOS7 that I think will be a better approach.

Super exciting, this should finally unify the UI look in iOS7 and OSX.
 
Version numbers are made of an array joined by a dot. Each array element is independent, and can go from 0 and up to whatever you like.

Code stolen* from the "About This Mac" dialog:
Code: 
NSArray  *versionArray = [NSArray arrayWithObjects:@"10", @"9", @"1", nil];
NSString *versionForDumbAsses = [versionArray componentsJoinedByString:@"."];
self.osVersionLabel.text = [NSString stringWithFormat:NSLocalizedString(@"Version %@",nil), versionForDumbAsses];
 
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I think Apple not making is really flat is more about resources than simply not wanting to.

Apple is more focused on iOS, so that gets most of the resources. To completely remodel OSX and all the apps will require a great deal of manpower, and to Apple there is no reason to rush to do it.

Give it time, it will be subtle changes over the next few versions.

I don't mind so long as THEY DON'T STRIP AWAY FEATURE or FUNCTIONALITY. That is key. It's bad enough they destroyed the Calendar on iOS and the only reason it is barely ok on the mac is because it is a larger screen. I don't want iOS mail on the Mac (no group messaging, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS STILL TO THIS DAY!) I can go on...just don't ruin the Mac Apple.
 
elgrecomac said:
To quote our illustrious president, W,

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”


― George W. Bush
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Ah poor W. Bush. Never did quite get the hang of that whole improv thing.
 
This is the best example I could find regarding the flat vs skeuomorphic design (aka iOS 7 vs iOS 6), that explains how I feel about it:

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