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My honest opinion. Apple needs to drop the A5 processor already. We're about to hit A9 this year, four generations ahead.

I own a first gen iPad mini and it has slowed down so much over the years that for some tasks it's just an annoyance to use. The A5 was good in its time. Don't misunderstand me, but its time was in 2011.

NEVER! MY iPAD 2 IS INVINCIBLE!!!!!!!!! :mad:
 
Let's hope it's good.

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NEVER! MY iPAD 2 IS INVINCIBLE!!!!!!!!! :mad:

And so is the 4S!

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And thus starts people with A5 devices whining that their devices don't have that many iOS 9 features. And if they did, the complaint would be that it doesn't run well.

Well, The Beats integration and Maps' new features are likely going to be US-only anyway...
 
My honest opinion. Apple needs to drop the A5 processor already. We're about to hit A9 this year, four generations ahead.

I own a first gen iPad mini and it has slowed down so much over the years that for some tasks it's just an annoyance to use. The A5 was good in its time. Don't misunderstand me, but its time was in 2011.

I disagree.
Not because I own anything with an A5 processor (I don't anymore), but because I think it's a good thing that they are looking to maintain software support for older devices. Especially iPads, which are (typically) not upgraded nearly as often as iPhones.
Some people, for whatever reason, are totally cool with using a device until it is competely not working. If the software supports them using it, I say "go for it".
 
"Apple is now building a core version of iOS 9 that runs efficiently on older A5 devices, then enabling each properly performing feature one-by-one. Thanks to this new approach, an entire generation (or two) of iPhones, iPads, and iPod touches will be iOS 9-compatible rather than reaching the end of the iOS line."

But I thought Apple was all about planned obsolescence and purposely designed their hardware to force you to upgrade?
 
But I thought Apple was all about planned obsolescence and purposely designed their hardware to force you to upgrade?

Let's see if there's iOS 9 for iPad 1. BTW, have you seen Apple's latest obsolete list?
 
I disagree.
Not because I own anything with an A5 processor (I don't anymore), but because I think it's a good thing that they are looking to maintain software support for older devices. Especially iPads, which are (typically) not upgraded nearly as often as iPhones.
Some people, for whatever reason, are totally cool with using a device until it is competely not working. If the software supports them using it, I say "go for it".

This is great but they shouldn't still be selling A5 devices. The only reason they are is marketing needs to be able to hit a certain price point with iPad and finance doesn't want to give up margins.

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Let's see if there's iOS 9 for iPad 1. BTW, have you seen Apple's latest obsolete list?

Is iPad 1 an A5 device? I'm assuming this iOS 9 lite is for A5 devices.
 
"focus of OS X 10.11 will be on improved stability and performance"

This is so very, very sorely needed. They might have to come up with a better name than Snow Yosemite though...
 
I disagree.
Not because I own anything with an A5 processor (I don't anymore), but because I think it's a good thing that they are looking to maintain software support for older devices. Especially iPads, which are (typically) not upgraded nearly as often as iPhones.
Some people, for whatever reason, are totally cool with using a device until it is competely not working. If the software supports them using it, I say "go for it".

This.

My only iPad is a first gen mini, which does just fine at the tasks I want it to do.

I understand that Apple has an interest in forcing upgrades, but it also has an interest in keeping people within the ecosystem at all price points. If they screw people over by selling a model one day and the next day releasing an OS that won't run on that unit, the next time I decide whether to purchase whatever Apple's newest line of devices is or an Android/Amazon alternative, I'm going to think hard about whether the (usually much cheaper) device outside the ecosystem would serve me just as well. Most of us can't afford to keep every single device within a generation or two of the current flagship model, and/or think that doing so is the height of wastefulness.
 
If it would run on the 4S, that would be cool.
I could try to skip another generation of iPhone upgrades.
But the 4S already has a bit of a memory problem.
E.g. I often get "there was a problem loading this page" in Safari when I browse MacRumors.com.
AppleInsider.com is less problematic in this respect.
 
However ANOTHER panel that slides out of the side? Already I have this damn one that appears at random when I'm trying to do something. For example, I'll be in iMovie sliding along the timeline when suddenly focus will snap to a panel sliding out of the right side of the screen. I have to stop what I'm doing, close it, and then get back to my editing. I hate that panel. I don't even know what it's for, I've never looked at it long enough.

I'm not on my rMBP right now so I'm not sure about trackpads, but I'm pretty sure you can turn that off in the trackpad settings. It's a gesture swipping from the right side of the trackpad off the edge. I'd recommend using something like MagicPrefs which lets you customize the gestures even further. I've got all kinds of crazy shortcuts setup although sometimes they can be a bit much, so don't go too crazy!

Is it me or do the iPhone4s's look super tiny in this article? Almost like mini phones! Crazy to think just 2-3 years ago, these were the best things since sliced bread.

What's even crazier is that back then people and many analysts were calling for an iPhone Mini! Now it is one. Boom. History is cyclical so I would not be surprised at all if someday they bring back the 3.5 or 4" iPhones as an iPhone Mini, haha.

I'm not really sure if control centre would really work on a Mac. Hoping for Siri though

Yeah I don't think control center is warranted. On a phone you quickly need to change stuff on the go because it's burried in some settings menu and have you leave the current app. On a Mac it's just in the menu bar.

Prepare to be shocked :D. There is no way IOS 10 will support the A5 so expect Apple to stop selling the remaining A5 devices this fall.

Yeah they will probably drop A5 by then because everything A6 and newer is on 1GB of RAM. They will probably sell the iPad Mini 2 as the base model and then have the mew 4th gen model as the top and no third gen. Just two models.

Does anyone else agree that for iOS 10, it should become iOSX? Also, I honestly think OS X should become OS XI because 10.11 really doesn't sound right...

LOL, this is the funniest thing I've read today. Congrats! That would be so confusing…just switching the "i/I" from the start to the end.

Serious question: Can anyone tell me how control center on a Mac is practical? I'm just trying to figure out why it's necessary with the "Today" and a Menu Bar.

Yeah the Today view has the switch that I use the most: Silencing notifications. I often use this when I have to present stuff or I'm doing some training with colleagues in my office and don't want all my messages popping up. Stuff like WiFi, sound and such is in the menu bar already, and the keyboard has physical controls for many of these functions for controlling music and such. Doesn't make sense! Didn't they also add an iTunes widget or something recently? I mainly use Rdio nowadays so I'm not sure.

All I want is an iCloud Drive app that functions like Dropbox. It's an iOS app and OS X app that lets me just drag and drop. Also, bump iCloud storage from 5 GB to 25GB.

Also maybe editable control center would be pretty hot too

An iCloud Drive app is sorely needed. It's one of the main reasons I still use Dropbox in addition to iCloud Drive. I mainly use iCloud Drive for keeping all of my photos and backups. Dropbox is handy for getting to and email on the go that files that I save there.

Dropbox is even worse than iCloud when it comes to space. :|

Not sure if serious or have you looked at the prices lately? Dropbox is $99/yr for 1TB. iCloud Drive is $239.88/yr for 1TB. Yeah. I mean, I guess if you only need 20GB for $11.88/yr it's not bad. Or 200GB for $47.88/yr. But for the larger plans it's quite the opposite. Right now I just have 200GB to keep all my mobile photos and videos and backups. I think I'm using about 110GB or so.

I know dude! I'll only upgrade when the iPad 2 can't run the latest OS. Clearly Apple doesn't want my money :cool:

Shhhh…don't tell Apple that! This is how we stop getting nice things like upgrades to our old devices.

Let's see if there's iOS 9 for iPad 1. BTW, have you seen Apple's latest obsolete list?

iPad 1 was underpowered from the get-go. It had an A4 which was decent at the time but was hobbled by 256MB of RAM. Even the iPhone 4 which had an A4 had 512MB of RAM.
 
They won't move to San Fran (the watch font) system wide as it doesn't make any sense when they standardized on Helvetica Neue just recently. I am sure they will add it though.

It was designed for a watch face.
 
NEVER! MY iPAD 2 IS INVINCIBLE!!!!!!!!! :mad:

MY IPAD 2 AS WELL!!! I've been arguing for A5 support in iOS 9 for a while and I'm convinced they only kept the touch 5 and mini 1 around because they knew they could get performance up perhaps back to iOS 7 speeds.

Honesty if apple gets iOS 9 to run well under 512 MB of ram, 1 GB ram devices will run much better :) win win. Features that the A5 can't handle will just get left of A5 devices, so it won't limit what they can add on new devices . I'd honestly be over the moon just to get support in terms of Comtiuned iCloud syncing, security and app compatibility.
 
This seems, that apple is going to be pushing the sandboxing style of apps even more for OSX.

This doesn't sound like sandboxing. It sound much more closer to an additional step past the move to signed kernel extensions. It is going to be harder to hack/mutate/modify/destroy Apple's code.

Access to the 'root' account owned resources/files basically will be largely taken away for some. Even "sudo root" could be restricted for some subset. If there was an admin user and/or group that was able to do application , and driver/ktexts installs that was different from root then reduction wouldn't mean much to vast majority of users and developers.

If you locked down to an extremely limited number of ways to get into the root account lots of Unix security 'exploits' close up. That has nothing to do with sandboxing individual apps into a silo. It has to do with not unnecessarily doing privilege escalation. Someone needs to be login as root almost never. It should be under highly exceptional, controlled conditions that someone requires root privileges.

"Root account less" is probably closer to what "Rootless" means.

What won't be able to easily do is stomp on Apple's code. The kernel and Apple's kexts probably would not be removable/replaceable as they were before.
The subset of folks who say "remove Apple's kext of blah, blah, blah " before my code/hardware/hack will work .... those folks are probably in trouble.



I dont remember when it started exactly but you have to edit things in the security to allow apps to be installed that are outside the mac app store.

Don't have to edit. Again this is more along the lines of developers having to have to sign ( authenticate) their apps. It is easy enough to blow past for those who know how (e.g., building their own apps ). Apple may put a bigger hoop to jump through but probably won't close off the "unix command line" ecosystem of building/using programs.


P.S. The system preferences GUI that enables the root account. That will probably disappear. There probably will be some command line incantation to turn that on, but making it 'point and click' easy to get to the root account... making that go away would just be part of the exercise.
 
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My iPhone is ready

Well, i have iOS 7.1.2 on my 4S. could iOS 9, with all its optimizations, run faster than iOS 7?
 
Before Release: "focus of OS X 10.11 will be on improved stability and performance"

At Release: "focus of OX X 10.11 is new emojis, enhanced social networking, and tighter iCloud integration"

After Release: "focus of OS X [10.11.1; .2; .3] will be on improved stability and performance"

Well, i have iOS 7.1.2 on my 4S. could iOS 9, with all its optimizations, run faster than iOS 7?

There is no reason why Apple couldn't make that happen, but then again, keep in mind they are also in the business to sell hardware, they earn nilch on OS updates.
So take a good guess whether they will improve the experience really or just make it "suck less" than traditional OS upgrades on iOS devices past the second major version.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
This doesn't sound like sandboxing. It sound much more closer to an additional step past the move to signed kernel extensions. It is going to be harder to hack/mutate/modified/destroying Apple's code.

Access to the 'root' account owned basically will be largely taken away for some. Even "sudo root" could be restricted for some subset. If there was an admin user and/or group that was able to do application , and driver/ktexts installs that was different from root then reduction wouldn't mean much to vast majority of users and developers.

If you locked down to an extremely limited number of ways to get into the root account lots of Unix security 'exploits' close up. That has nothing to do with sandboxing individual apps into a silo. It has to do with not unnecessarily doing privilege escalation. Someone needs to be login as root almost never. It should be under highly exceptional, controlled conditions that someone requires root privileges.

"Root account less" is probably closer to what "Rootless" means.

What won't be able to easily do is stomp on Apple's code. The kernel and Apple's kexts probably would not be removable/replaceable as they were before.
The subset of folks who say "remove Apple's kext of blah, blah, blah " before my code/hardware/hack will work .... those folks are probably in trouble.

Yea . . . I'm so screwed if this happens.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1761432/
 
I don't see anyone complaining that Dashboard, being totally useless with the advent of Notification Center, is still active in Yosemite (and still with skeuomorphic calculator and weather no less).... I expect that Control Center will serve a similar function, same command, but actually useful.
 
trusted wifi would be nice, have hey siri work when on one whilst plugged in. Having siri available from the lock screen is not very security conscious because anyone can get at all your contact details especially your own which can show so much about you.

trusted wifi plugged in and hey siri working would be welcomed especially for home kit :)
 
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