MontyZ said:
I ordered a new dual 2.0 GHz Power Mac the day that Tiger came out, so when I got it, Tiger was already installed.
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I ordered a new dual 2.0 GHz Power Mac the day that Tiger came out, so when I got it, Tiger was already installed.
MacSA said:
This is a mac user community, not a cult. Do you really want people to stop talking about their software issues just so that other people will get Macs? Please.....
Some of the issues being discussed are related to ported-over library content. But they definitely all aren't. This is typical of an initial release of a new operating system from Apple or anyone else.
In my case, I had a total of two "hacks" in my Panther system -- Sidetrack, which I de-installed before upgrading, and httpmail for Mail.app, which I didn't (I didn't understand I could manually delete it, so I imported my saved mail and recreated my inboxes). Okay, so my bad on httpmail. But I did an archive and install without porting users, and I didn't transfer any application preferences over except the ones for Adium, and the profile folder for Firefox.
So unless every issue I have with Tiger is from those two sets of library files, then I don't think issues I've had with my computer should just be considered the pure result of my "bad behavior."
If every issue I'm having is the pure result of importing Adium's preferences and my Firefox user profile, then shame on Apple!
Besides which, I have said all along that I expected this level of problematic performance from Tiger. I'm just trying to get help solving the issues I can solve.
I'm getting intermittent failures of Mail 2.01 to play the new mail sound. Selecting the sound again from the preferences fixes it temporarily.cgc said:
I understand that some of you are having issues with Tiger, but honestly, I have had no issues. Some wierd stuff with Safari that occasionally causes it to quit but definately not more issues than I have had with my windows XP at work. There I get frequent showstoppers that cause the entire OS to stop, like divide by zero errors and others that the OS should probably catch.
So far I know an entire mac graphic production house that has upgraded and had no trouble. I have three macs, an iMac G3 500, a G5 1.6 and a iBook G4 that I did a straight upgrade on with no issues, and I am running strange stuff like JRun, Tomcat, and JBoss on the same box, all starting at the same time with a couple of shell scripts that I tied to the login, so my setup isn't entirely standard.
All in all, it starts up faster than Panther, the finder is faster, and it has been much more reliable. Spotlight in save and open dialogs is sweet. I can network to PCs over wireless now without having the finder crap out on me. Apple has addressed all of my gripes with Panther in Tiger.
I think Apple has done a great job with this, I switched in 2001 and have no intention of going back even with the eternal lag of reasonable G5 upgrades.
If everyone here had to use a windows machine for a while, after a few complete system stop and endless reboot cycles with Service Pack 2, buggy graphics drivers, crazy network drivers, poor quality hardware from unreliable overseas vendors, you'd come home and kiss your Mac every day, minor bugs and all.
So far I know an entire mac graphic production house that has upgraded and had no trouble. I have three macs, an iMac G3 500, a G5 1.6 and a iBook G4 that I did a straight upgrade on with no issues, and I am running strange stuff like JRun, Tomcat, and JBoss on the same box, all starting at the same time with a couple of shell scripts that I tied to the login, so my setup isn't entirely standard.
All in all, it starts up faster than Panther, the finder is faster, and it has been much more reliable. Spotlight in save and open dialogs is sweet. I can network to PCs over wireless now without having the finder crap out on me. Apple has addressed all of my gripes with Panther in Tiger.
I think Apple has done a great job with this, I switched in 2001 and have no intention of going back even with the eternal lag of reasonable G5 upgrades.
If everyone here had to use a windows machine for a while, after a few complete system stop and endless reboot cycles with Service Pack 2, buggy graphics drivers, crazy network drivers, poor quality hardware from unreliable overseas vendors, you'd come home and kiss your Mac every day, minor bugs and all.
>>So, you've obviously never gone into a Windows user forum. Because if you had, you'd probably be afraid to sit down in front of your Windows computer.
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yeah, except that Macs are supposed to be BETTER than M$ boxes-not simply 'as good as' thats why Macs have the limited number of models write stuff for-at least Microsoft has an excuse-they have to make sure their software works on every motherboad under the sun-tricky maneuvering.
There is really no excuse for these flubs on first release-especially if Apple wants to become more than a 5% boutique OS-
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yeah, except that Macs are supposed to be BETTER than M$ boxes-not simply 'as good as' thats why Macs have the limited number of models write stuff for-at least Microsoft has an excuse-they have to make sure their software works on every motherboad under the sun-tricky maneuvering.
There is really no excuse for these flubs on first release-especially if Apple wants to become more than a 5% boutique OS-
iCal Widget
OK guys, I can't get this one to show me my daily schedule. I thought it was a bug they'd fix with 10.4.1, but clicking on the days doesn't do anything except show me the date, which is nice, but...
Anyone show me a pic of it working and what you have to do to make it work?
Cheers
OK guys, I can't get this one to show me my daily schedule. I thought it was a bug they'd fix with 10.4.1, but clicking on the days doesn't do anything except show me the date, which is nice, but...
Anyone show me a pic of it working and what you have to do to make it work?
Cheers
Montserrat said:
It *doesn't* do it.
And at least for the US website, Apple took that feature off the list of 200 new features in Tiger! We were discussing it in the tiger bugs thread or the dashboard thread, I think. Someone pointed this widget out, which is not perfect, but to me is better than the Apple one:http://www.benkazez.com/icalevents.php
Well ... they are! No one is saying Macs are "as good as" Wintel boxes.seashellz said:
Every motherboard under the sun? Just how many are there? I think it's the other way around. Computer manufacturers have to be sure their boxes work with MS OS.seashellz said:
I agree that buggy software is bad, but, despite the posts of people having problems, two friends of mine who installed Tiger the day it was released have told me it's purring along just fine for them. Also, Apple has released a major OS version AND an update already. How much longer before Longhorn arrives??
Not impressed!
My Powerbook running 10.4.1 crashed three times last night, kernel panics.
I updated my Xserve to 10.4.1...while trying to reboot...kernel panic!!!!
Seems okay now, but I'm wondering if upgrading was a bad idea.
My Powerbook running 10.4.1 crashed three times last night, kernel panics.
I updated my Xserve to 10.4.1...while trying to reboot...kernel panic!!!!
Seems okay now, but I'm wondering if upgrading was a bad idea.
The upgrade couldn't have been smoother, I don't think it took more than 5 minutes or so to do. Very happy. In spite of the occasional annoying Safari beachballing and not being able to open *every* audio/video file I could on Windows, I'm pretty happy with the switch.
Very happy. In spite of the occasional annoying Safari beachballing and not being able to open *every* audio/video file I could on Windows, I'm pretty happy with the switch.
apple will never get it right in the first shot
...and neither will anyone else
an operating system, classified and compared to any mechanical machinery with thousands of parts in the book ,os x the missing manual, is subject to problems
and in any first version, that is bound to be magnified by not having the experience of hundreds of thousands of users working with it on a daily basis
no matter how good apple inc's r&d people are, they cannot find all the glitches of their product and have to rely on us consumers/users to help fine tune the os by defining day to day problems with the product
i am just getting used to working with os x having been an os 7, 8, and 9 user for many years and i can tell already that os x is more stable and problems that we can find now with it are not as bad as the days of old with the non os x operating systems
i wonder what apple will call os x when it has gone through the osx.9 version?
...and neither will anyone else
an operating system, classified and compared to any mechanical machinery with thousands of parts in the book ,os x the missing manual, is subject to problems
and in any first version, that is bound to be magnified by not having the experience of hundreds of thousands of users working with it on a daily basis
no matter how good apple inc's r&d people are, they cannot find all the glitches of their product and have to rely on us consumers/users to help fine tune the os by defining day to day problems with the product
i am just getting used to working with os x having been an os 7, 8, and 9 user for many years and i can tell already that os x is more stable and problems that we can find now with it are not as bad as the days of old with the non os x operating systems
i wonder what apple will call os x when it has gone through the osx.9 version?
Most of us think there will be noe OS 10.9.x... 10.5 or 10.6 might be the last OS X update before OS 11 (or whatever they call it).jefhatfield said:
Still no issues with Tiger... All is very well over here on my 2+ year old G4.
Plymouthbreezer said:
os 11 or os XI just doesn't have the same ring
i also wonder what microsoft will call the next major operating system in their universe? their xp's aqua like graphics (far cry from windows 98 and windows 2000) and the use of an "x" in their xp product line could have been borrowed from a company near me in cupertino, don't you think?
Lara F said:
What players are you using to play your files? iTunes should play all things audio, and as for video, there is nothing that VLC or MPlayer cannot handle, at least that I've run across. Just make sure you have the right divx codecs installed (3vix, etc.) and you should be able to play anything and everything no sweat!
~Shard~ said:
I think there is a WMP10 specific codec that is not available by any means on Macs, isn't there?
And of course DRM'd WMA is pretty much out.
mkrishnan said:I think there is a WMP10 specific codec that is not available by any means on Macs, isn't there?
If so, I wans't aware of that, nor have I encountered any files (WMP or otherwise) that I couldn;t play on my Mac. Thanks for the head's up though... As for the WMA files, yah, I guess I wasn't thinking about playing those on a Mac, but why would you want to?
My issues have been with some live streams (see this thread):
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/124934/
Also some "WMV3" encoded videos. VLC gave me a message saying it couldn't read these, and no other programs (including MPlayer) will open them. I did a Google search and turned up a message board thread saying Macs weren't capable of decoding them.
But I'd say 95% of what I want works, and often looks much better on my Mac than my older PC laptop.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/124934/
Also some "WMV3" encoded videos. VLC gave me a message saying it couldn't read these, and no other programs (including MPlayer) will open them. I did a Google search and turned up a message board thread saying Macs weren't capable of decoding them.
But I'd say 95% of what I want works, and often looks much better on my Mac than my older PC laptop.