Raven VII said:
I was actually coming to this thread to say the same thing!
I don't really care that it came late, don't get me wrong. I was just worried that s/u update was not working correctly....
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I was actually coming to this thread to say the same thing!
I don't really care that it came late, don't get me wrong. I was just worried that s/u update was not working correctly....
iomar said:
I noticed you are using a 900 MHz G3 B&W, which means it must have been upgraded with a third-party Processor Upgrade. Perhaps your problem is with that upgrade's compatibility with Tiger. 10.4 was optimized for G5s (64-bit processing), and although it is fully-compatible with 32-bit processing, older computers, especially upgraded ones, will have more and more problems with new OS X versions.
I witnessed several problems with older macs and Tiger. Although any Mac with native built-in Firewire (such as the B&W, I think it is the oldest one with built-in firewire though) should run it flawlessly, it seems early ones have key issues with the Finder's stability among others.
Your issue might also be with Firmware (although if the system allowed you to install Tiger, your firmware should be up-to-date), have you checked your CPU upgrade manufacturer's drivers/firmware since Tiger?
If all else fails, you might have a RAM problem (stability issues of this nature often point to RAM problems). Try running a Hardware Test (Extended) to diagnostic faulty memory.
Your last resort should be to re-install Tiger, but before you re-boot from the Tiger DVD, hold your "programmer's" button (the flat one beside the restart button) and make sure you got the latest firmware installed (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117).
Good Luck!
Oh, and by the way I am running a Mirror Door G4 dual 867MHz, a Quicksilver G4 800MHz OCed to 867MHz, an iBook G4 933MHz and a Mac Mini G4 1.42GHz on 10.4.1, and all of them are running smooth. Tiger has made my Quicksilver significantly faster (couldn't say for the others as I mainly use the Quicksilver until I can upgrade to a Quad G5.. Come on Apple! DO IT!), and 10.4.1 fixed the few minor issues I was having with third-party devices (Nikon CoolPix 5100 wasn't recognized as easily as before, and a Minolta QMS laser printer was behaving strangely before the upgrade).
10.4.1 broke my Automator app!
I created a workflow to connect to and mount 3 network shares at login, and it worked great until yesterday's .1 update. Now it will only mount the first share and then fail, complaining that "The server may not exist or it is not operational at this time. Check the server name or IP address and try again."
However, the server name, share name, authentication information, IP addresses, host name, and access permissions have not changed. I hope Automator updates aren't far away. If I change the order of the shares, it will mount the first one only, regardless of which one is first.
I created a workflow to connect to and mount 3 network shares at login, and it worked great until yesterday's .1 update. Now it will only mount the first share and then fail, complaining that "The server may not exist or it is not operational at this time. Check the server name or IP address and try again."
However, the server name, share name, authentication information, IP addresses, host name, and access permissions have not changed. I hope Automator updates aren't far away. If I change the order of the shares, it will mount the first one only, regardless of which one is first.
I donwloaded 4.1 update and seems everything is working well. I also updated DVD player. I need to check it before I can comment on any problem if any.
Raven VII said:
Finally got it this afternoon. Like a lot of others, though, my OS X 10.4.1 update was only like a 19.7 GB download. The download file from the Apple site is like 37 GB.
Any thoughts?
Kerry Sanders said:
Yes. I hope you mean megabytes and not gigabytes, because (and this really should be said in a Scotty from Star Trek voice) She just canna handle that kind of power, cap'n!
mkrishnan said:
Yes... that should have been MB, not GB. I think I need to get a few extra hours of sleep at night.
Kerry Sanders said:Yes... that should have been MB, not GB. I think I need to get a few extra hours of sleep at night.
I usually resist the urge to do that, so sorry.
FWIW mine clocks in at 19.4.... They've always been different in size, but there hardly seems to be enough other stuff that's been released since Tiger came out to justify that size difference. Maybe iTunes 4.8 and DVD Player 4.6 are in the Apple website download?Problem with iTunes 4.8
After updating to Tiger in iTunes, everytime a song gets finnished playing it stops, and says "searching for movie data in file "Orig_0026321d.IETemp"" and then the music won't play again until I click cancel...
I didn't put any movie files into iTunes after I "up"graded... I just started playing music and that is what happened...
It also makes the whole computer slow down..
Anyone have any ideas?
should I erase the itunes library thing and force it to recreate it or something?
After updating to Tiger in iTunes, everytime a song gets finnished playing it stops, and says "searching for movie data in file "Orig_0026321d.IETemp"" and then the music won't play again until I click cancel...
I didn't put any movie files into iTunes after I "up"graded... I just started playing music and that is what happened...
It also makes the whole computer slow down..
Anyone have any ideas?
should I erase the itunes library thing and force it to recreate it or something?
MontyZ said:
It is very stable here for me, but then again, this is my first ever experience with Mac OS X. It is not my first experience with a *nix based OS, though.
I can say this for sure. I have had this Power Mac just over 6 days now. It is so exciting to be able to do something with my computer instead of for my computer.
The latest ChuckChat Technorama podcast says it all tonight. He had to do the podcast on a heathen box (aka Wintel). He was talking about all the issues that he ran into with the Window box. It is funny to listen to.
Oh, well, good for you for switching! I made the switch about 6 years ago after having used Windows for...well, since 2.0 actually (and before that, good ole DOS). I am MUCH happier on the Mac and really love OSX.Kerry Sanders said:
So, did you get your Mac with Tiger pre-installed? Or did you upgrade from Panther? Just curious to see if it's the upgrading that causes the most problems. I am going to wait until 10.4.2 I think.
bankshot said:Unless something was fixed in the kernel itself relating to this, I suppose I'll get my first 10.4.1 panic sometime in the next day or two...
And it's confirmed - 10.4.1 did not even attempt to fix this USB bug. 8 crashes in 16 days is waaaaay too much, so I am officially back on Panther. Glad I installed to a separate disk, so reverting was as simple as switching startup disks (I also made sure to make a backup copy of my personal Library folder, so everything is exactly as it was before Tiger).
Quite frankly, I'm very disappointed.
Obviously this crash isn't affecting all models, and perhaps it's only my particular model (QuickSilver 2002 733 MHz G4 PowerMac). But you'd think something that causes a crash every freaking 2 days would come up in QA or beta testing. Guess I'll be waiting to see if 10.4.2 addresses this issue, since I'm done being Apple's guinea pig!
Well, to be fair, Apple do say there are over two hundred new features: they just didn't make it clear that the new features were all bugs.BWhaler said:
Given the timing for this update, 10.4.1 will mainly fix bugs that were known about prior to 10.4.0 shipping. This only gives more ammunition to me and all the others that say 10.4.0 should not have been released. Much as I admire Apple, if they carry on this way they will lose their gloss and I don't want that to happen. I'm just glad that I kept my Panther backup and was able to revert back. My buggy 10.4 installation was a clean install and I submitted all my bug reports back to Apple.
petej said:
I couldn't agree more.
And it's not the bugs, although the bugs annoy me. I assume Apple needed Tiger out for Wall Street reasons or for future products which depend on Tiger. (I'm not making excuses for Apple, but there has to be a reason since they had another couple of months until the public deadline.)
But what worries me is the lack of Apple Touch in the thinking behind Tiger.
Examples:
1. To isync in Tiger across multiple devices, you now go to three different apps, and they all must be open for "Sync Now" to work. This was not the case in Panther, and is the type of thinking that comes from Redmond
2. No way to delete (easily designed for my Mom) widgets
3. Syncing and .Mac integration flat out does not work. This is a keystone feature of Tiger and it simply does not work.
4. Quartz 2D. Again, one of the 200 new features, and it's shipped turned off.
The list goes on and on. And it makes me sad.
See, I love technology. And because of the oligopoly on the PC side of the house, Apple is all we've got for excitement. And if they can't deliver, there is nowhere really else to turn.
So I hope this was a fluke, or even better, Apple has some sick products coming soon which require Tiger.
And until then, let's hope .2 has the hundreds and hundreds of bug fixes Tiger desparately needs.
robshakir said:
It ain't working for me on my single G4 Power Mac. Had the previous version running on Panther fine and dandy. This new version loads and connects, but no IP address is assigned for some reason so I have no connectivity to the remote network.
petej said:
Apple did the exact same thing with Panther too... a few weeks after Panther initially shipped, out came 10.3.1.
I can't remember if Panther was any more or less stable. However, I do remember I couldn't connect to Windows machines for a while.
Lord Kythe said:
i am sure my MDD 1.25dual and my AGP 400 >1Ghz are both slower than before.
Tiger is a nightmare for me, MAME old version cannot launch & new version cannot recognize lots of stuff before; system update quit while install 10.4.1; quit again while updating iTunes 4.8; heavy app got slower; preview still crash......
give me back my Pantherrrrrrrrrrr
Why are some people having lots of problems and others few or none at all? Frankly reading through this entire thread is enough to put off any potential switcher - Finder problems, software update crashing, unable to burn CD's (that ones a MAJOR problem i'd say)