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I see a reliease during the WWDC, but no time before this. If this is the list of bugs, and they are the last major ones, then they do seem on track to getting there. I'm sure that its some loops or something that need to be fixed, which should only take a few months. So, they have about 4 months or so to get it to final so its ready to be released.
 
ITR 81 said:
Same here.

Ever since the last Sec. update my iMac G4 has been having the flashing folder problem...so maybe tiger(when it comes out) will fix this issue.

I'm sortof wondering if it's iMac related since my Ti PB and G5 PM didn't have similar issues...oh well.. it still boots..but just slower.

Did you try to go to the System Preferences, Start-up Disk, and (re-)selected your system (folder)?
 
Fredstar said:
So is Tiger still in Alpha? As in new features are still being added?
"One new feature not reported in the seed notes is on the Universal Access preferences pane: on the Mouse tab, you can now chose the cursor size. The feature is still a bit buggy though, it looks like there is no anti-aliasing on the cursor icon and that the mouse motion is a bit jerky."
Fingers crossed that first release is ok and not rushed

Tiger is in Beta.
Longhorn is still in Alpha though, and the current builds suck so bad I don't think we'll see a beta anytime soon :D
 
Ummmmm.... I'll wait thanks.

I'm sure they'll get rid of the bugs, but I for one won't be on line getting the premier edition of Tiger. I'll see what you guys have to say about it first. Don't get me wrong, I really want this OS, but these bugs scare the hell out of me.
 
Waiting for Tiger

It'll be done when it's done, I guess; and like many others here I would prefer it to be late than buggy.

I'll settle for Tiger at WWDC, along with an updated Mac mini, 512Mb min, maybe a blu-ray drive as a BTO? :)

Spotlight will change the way that we use our computers in a way that I think people just don't understand yet. Even with the ease of use of Panther, finding and sorting your data is still a real issue for many users, especially on shared machines...
 
GFLPraxis said:
Tiger is in Beta.
Longhorn is still in Alpha though, and the current builds suck so bad I don't think we'll see a beta anytime soon :D

Microsoft is set to release the first proper beta of it's next generation OS, "Longhorn". One of the new technologies to be included in this beta is "Auxilary Displays". These act similar to the second display on your cell phone, it will show battery life, WiFi signal, new emails and alerts. Remember folks, Mac OS 10.4 is the last release from Apple for 2 years, it better be worth it.
 
ebally said:
Microsoft is set to release the first proper beta of it's next generation OS, "Longhorn". One of the new technologies to be included in this beta is "Auxilary Displays". These act similar to the second display on your cell phone, it will show battery life, WiFi signal, new emails and alerts. Remember folks, Mac OS 10.4 is the last release from Apple for 2 years, it better be worth it.

2 years? um, no. panther came out in q4 2003
and your mention of some random longhorn feature is kind of a non sequitor, yeah?
 
For everyone freaking out about the the first release of 10.4, doesnt Apple make sure that all the software they release is perfectly integrated and easy to use and whatnot. I havent bought my first Apple yet (waiting for next major release of the Powerbooks) but some of you people seem really paranoid about and first release of anything from Apple. Ive heard nothing but people wanting to wait for Rev. A of the next powerbooks and confirmation that 10.4 is good before they'll install it.
 
Sonofhaig said:
I'm sure they'll get rid of the bugs, but I for one won't be on line getting the premier edition of Tiger. I'll see what you guys have to say about it first. Don't get me wrong, I really want this OS, but these bugs scare the hell out of me.

Yea, i'm going to wait till school is over so if my computer crashes i won't be screwed....

Also do u think they will have a deal if you buy tiger you get ilife 05 at a lower price...?
 
i'd say that is pretty good news, isnt it common for new versions being seeded more and more frequently as we get closer to it becoming gold?
 
With the modular nature of Mac OS X, there is no such thing as an Alpha or Beta release for it.

Apple adds features or UI enhancements right to the very end of the development process...and continues past that for the point releases.
The build numbers have no bearing on old classifications.

OS X 10.0 (4K78) never went through "Kappa testing"
10.1 (5G64) never went through "Gamma" or even "Blamma" testing.

There's "done", and "not done yet" with Mac OS X.
Like someone above mentioned, the foreign localizations were just added. That's a sign that "done" is near being reached.
 
El Duderino said:
For everyone freaking out about the the first release of 10.4, doesnt Apple make sure that all the software they release is perfectly integrated and easy to use and whatnot. I havent bought my first Apple yet (waiting for next major release of the Powerbooks) but some of you people seem really paranoid about and first release of anything from Apple. Ive heard nothing but people wanting to wait for Rev. A of the next powerbooks and confirmation that 10.4 is good before they'll install it.

I've never had a problem, and am almost ALWAYS an early adopter. Every so often, there is a bug and some people take the possibility of losing all their data very seriously. They have a different set of priorities than I do. It's just a vlaue judgment. I agree that when OSX.0 was relesaed, it was so buggy it was barely usable. 10.1 was quickly released and addressed almost everything. I beleive that Apple learned from that and makes certain that every upgrade to OSX is pretty solid.
 
I bet the developers are extremely stressed to get this out. Probably long hours and some of these bugs are more from lack of sleep and rushing to finish more than anything. I just watched that movie "Pirates of Silicon Valley" and I can just see people working for 50 hours straight at a time and having Steve pacing the hallways and picking verbal fights. Maybe it isn't like that anymore. I bet Bill Gates can hardly wait to get a copy of Tiger installed on his Powerbook.
 
Another Tiger build release is god news, just that much closer to gold. Being released in June sounds good to me.
 
gorkonapple said:
With that laundry list of things to fix, is June too optimistic for a release? That's only 4 months. Anyway, I can't wait to see tiger. It promises alot. We'll see.

June should be fine. I work in a software engineering department and see both shrink wrap and online application development every day. You'd be surprised how fast some issues can be resolved, especially with the resources Apple is throwing at the issue.
 
BornAgainMac said:
I bet the developers are extremely stressed to get this out. Probably long hours and some of these bugs are more from lack of sleep and rushing to finish more than anything. I just watched that movie "Pirates of Silicon Valley" and I can just see people working for 50 hours straight at a time and having Steve pacing the hallways and picking verbal fights. Maybe it isn't like that anymore. I bet Bill Gates can hardly wait to get a copy of Tiger installed on his Powerbook.

A March-April release is looking pretty good at this point if there are not other major problems. :)
 
ebally said:
Microsoft is set to release the first proper beta of it's next generation OS, "Longhorn". One of the new technologies to be included in this beta is "Auxilary Displays". These act similar to the second display on your cell phone, it will show battery life, WiFi signal, new emails and alerts. Remember folks, Mac OS 10.4 is the last release from Apple for 2 years, it better be worth it.

While not built into the OS, the PCs have had this for YEARS. Somehow I don't think that feature will be very groundbreaking. :rolleyes:

Wake me up when Microsoft releases an OS that works.
 
wdlove said:
Another Tiger build release is god news, just that much closer to gold. Being released in June sounds good to me.

Though Steve gave a H1 2005 deadline, he likes to surprise and surpass expectations of Mac users and the industry. Plan on it being released before june way before june. ;) :)
 
Frobozz said:
June should be fine. I work in a software engineering department and see both shrink wrap and online application development every day. You'd be surprised how fast some issues can be resolved, especially with the resources Apple is throwing at the issue.

People tend to forget that on BIG PROJECTS a work day is longer then the usual 9-5. :p ;) :)
 
~loserman~ said:
There are still occasional reports of blue or grey screens after installation or at login. Workaround: reboot.



Isnt that awesome.....
I guess Tiger is starting to put in Windows features..... :)

Apple is just making it easier for switchers, with something familiar. :p :)
 
ebally said:
Microsoft is set to release the first proper beta of it's next generation OS, "Longhorn". One of the new technologies to be included in this beta is "Auxilary Displays". These act similar to the second display on your cell phone, it will show battery life, WiFi signal, new emails and alerts. Remember folks, Mac OS 10.4 is the last release from Apple for 2 years, it better be worth it.

You're comparing two non-similar things. A beta means nothing, since Longhorn won't be shipping until late 2006 or early 2007. In fact, their executives won't even comment on a time frame any more. So, it's entirely likely that OS X 10.5 will be released by the time Longhorn it. My old boss is in charge of Longhorn Development at Microsoft...

Also, Apple's cycle for major OS releases will average 18 months (not 24.) This changed for the first time since OS X 10.0 was released, where major revisions were 12 months apart (abnormally short.)
 
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