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OS X 10.4 Tiger build 8A378 Seeded

maya said:
People tend to forget that on BIG PROJECTS a work day is longer then the usual 9-5. :p ;) :)
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Amen!

People work all sorts of crazy hours. They work in shifts. They work 18 hour days. Some days they show up early and others late. It's all about the end goal and, depending on the scope of the issue, I easily expect Apple to meet a June deadline.

Software OS's are exceedingly complex but Apple has the best software engineers in the world!
 
Sonofhaig said:
I'm sure they'll get rid of the bugs, but I for one won't be on line getting the premier edition of Tiger. I'll see what you guys have to say about it first. Don't get me wrong, I really want this OS, but these bugs scare the hell out of me.
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And there's the danger of rumors and broken NDAs :rolleyes:

If there weren't known holes, it would have shipped! That's what beta testing is about. Of course there are bugs.

As for Longhorn... I'm glad there's SOMETHING left in their plans :) I really wish Apple laptops had a way to check the battery without looking at the screen :rolleyes:
 
Frobozz said:
Also, Apple's cycle for major OS releases will average 18 months (not 24.) This changed for the first time since OS X 10.0 was released, where major revisions were 12 months apart (abnormally short.)
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Nice Shadow of the Beast avatar :)

I don't think Apple has committed to an exact future schedule of 18 months--just that it will be a longer time after Tiger. (But Apple can ship multiple free releases after Tiger without violating that expectation.)

To set the record straight on OS X schedules:

Since OS X 10.0 was released in early 2001, there have only been TWO paid upgrades of OS X ever: 10.2 and 10.3 (remember: 10.1 was free). The time before these paid versions was 17 months and 14 months. Tiger will be at 17 months next month.

10.0 Cheeta
...17 months (includes free 10.1 upgrade 11 months before Jaguar)...
10.2 Jaguar (first paid upgrade)
...14 months...
10.3 Panther (second paid upgrade)
....17 months in March, probably longer...
Tiger
....even longer before the next one...
 
nagromme said:
As for Longhorn... I'm glad there's SOMETHING left in their plans :) I really wish Apple laptops had a way to check the battery without looking at the screen :rolleyes:
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My powerbook is running and plugged into a few different things right now, but I am almost positive that the battery can be checked without the screen. You do this by pressing the button on the battery which gives you a light readout on the charge status of the battery.

Powerbooks have had this feature since way way back... :)
 
~loserman~ said:
There are still occasional reports of blue or grey screens after installation or at login. Workaround: reboot.



Isnt that awesome.....
I guess Tiger is starting to put in Windows features..... :)
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You have to understand that they are still working on a lot of these bugs. Things come up, and these builds represent what they have. There's an incredible amount of code to look at to find the source of these sorts of problems, especially if it's machine dependent. In the end, they'll figure things out.
-Chase
 
cmvsm said:
Looks as if its going to be a little while longer before Tiger is released due to the high buggy nature of the existing version. That's ok...Panther will be perfect in another release or so, and I'll be keeping that for a while even if Tiger is released.
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Couldn't agree with you more. I know that Apple has 1,000 engineers just working on it's iLife applications, so I can only imagine how many engineers they've got working to make 10.4 the best it can be. Right now, I'm satisfied with "Panther", although I think 10.3.8 has hindered the performance of my system.
 
nagromme said:
I really wish Apple laptops had a way to check the battery without looking at the screen :rolleyes:
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I think you're joking here, but just to make sure: you can look at the battery on a PowerBook and see how much charge by the 25%, it has.

EDIT: appletalk beat me to the punch.
-Chase
 
rendezvouscp said:
I think you're joking here, but just to make sure: you can look at the battery on a PowerBook and see how much charge by the 25%, it has.

EDIT: appletalk beat me to the punch.
-Chase
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My girlfriend taught me that yesterday. I've had my PowerBook for more than 2 years... :eek:
 
nagromme said:
As for Longhorn... I'm glad there's SOMETHING left in their plans :) I really wish Apple laptops had a way to check the battery without looking at the screen :rolleyes:
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Ever noticed the LEDs on the battery? :eek:

See? Apple has already thought of it.

Edit: I guess I'm not the first to say so... :confused:
 
JonMaker said:
Ever noticed the LEDs on the battery? :eek:

See? Apple has already thought of it.
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And they thought it through. You don't need to put the battery in your Powerbook to see its status.
 
kevinuaa said:
2 years? um, no. panther came out in q4 2003
and your mention of some random longhorn feature is kind of a non sequitor, yeah?
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Please read properly before making comments. I said Mac OS 10.4 is the LAST release from Apple FOR 2 years. :rolleyes:
 
rendezvouscp said:
You have to understand that they are still working on a lot of these bugs. Things come up, and these builds represent what they have. There's an incredible amount of code to look at to find the source of these sorts of problems, especially if it's machine dependent. In the end, they'll figure things out.
-Chase
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Lighten up man... :)
 
Sure looking forward to tiger. Think I want to get it by getting a mac mini...so her is for tiger preinstalled on mac mini with 512 memory.
 
I don't WANT the developers to put in 18 hour days. I am satisfied with waiting until January '06 for it to be done. Frankly, Panther is great now. I don't see a March or April Release. Earliest would be June, but like I said, I woudl rather wait. Why? Because I want Tiger to be RIGHT and working as well as it can out of the box. I don't want problems and I am patient enought to wait for it to AVOID those problems. That said, I will likely backup my iPhoto library and iTunes as well onto my external USB drive and do a complete clean install just to get rid of the flotsam on my hard disk. That and just in case some of my stuff from Fink gets BROKEN! :D It would also be a good time to clean up the junk from my experiment with Darwin Ports and completely get rid of anything but the stuff Fink installs in /sw. I like the way Fink works like that and I am sticking with them.
 
wdlove said:
Another Tiger build release is god news, just that much closer to gold. Being released in June sounds good to me.
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I often wondered if god used Mac OS.
 
maya said:
Though Steve gave a H1 2005 deadline, he likes to surprise and surpass expectations of Mac users and the industry. Plan on it being released before june way before june. ;) :)
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I really believe Tiger will release late April to early May...
Although I think it will be fairly buggy when it releases and will have at least 4 updates by years end.
 
Wonder Boy said:
im looking forward to tiger for an excuse to nuke my ibook and start over. no real reason to do so, i just like doing that every so often.

should i not being nuking my hard drive every so often?
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I like to nuke my iBook at least annually, and every 1-2 years for my Windows XP desktop (which I will sometime well down the road replace with a Mac, maybe a mini if the LCD is still in good shape by then). I haven't nuked the iMac yet but it'll probably be on a 2-year nuke (unless I get Tiger, in which case I'll nuke it on install).
 
gorkonapple said:
Frankly, Panther is great now.
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I think panther is very good for the desktop....but the server version is a piece of junk. We have had nothing but problems with it and Apples responce to almost every problem we have reminds me of MICROSOFT....
i.e. It will be fixed in TIGER.
I've heard those same 6 words at least 50 times.
 
Something tells me that the people dying for Apple to push Tiger out the door ASAP are the same people who try to be first on the "M$ LOL THEY DON'T TEST THEIR SOFTWARE!!!1!" bandwagon whenever there's a service pack or news article about Longhorn.
 
Why do we have to PAY for jag, panther and tiger?
They are all 10.XX!!!
We don't pay for Win XP SP1 or SP2 after buying the original.
I hate this aspect of having to "buy" the upgraded OS, but I suppose it is a good business decision for apple....In the end, it is a company that wants to make money... guess I can't blame them...

No doubt though, I will not get a mini or PB or PM until tiger is out... Hate to pay $129 for something I can get free in a month or two... But the wait... it is killing me...
 
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