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Apple are you listening. Far too many products - hardware and software are being released that clearly need months more development testing. You mojo will be lost sooner rather than later if this continues.

I wonder what the iPhone 5 has wrong with it......

Its the Tim Cook effect.

Money money money.
 
This is GREAT NEWS! I am one of those individuals who has experienced some issues with my battery as a result of upgrading to 10.8. The Apple forum has a huge thread (over 100 pages I think) regarding the issue and a lot of folks changing HOW they use their laptops to accommodate this issue.

I am sure most folks will be very happy to hear this news! Thanks for this update!

Thanks for the update? How about not ***** up the battery life to begin with. It makes one wonder how this gets through all the beta testing.
 
Dropping like a stone

I've got a late 2010 MBP came with snow leopard and never been the same since Lion and now with Mountain Lion its even worse.

Downloaded a battery app and it reported my battery was 90% of what it should be when it was new, its now showing 96% and reports over 5 hours of use. After about 10 mins it then shows 94% but the time has dropped below 5 hours.

I just hope 10.8.2 sorts this problem out.
 
And the other bugs ?

An what about the sound bug. Is that fixed ? I cant use ML atm as the sound is buggy even under 10.8.1.

:mad:
 
So excited about this! My retina macbook is getting 4 to 4.5 hours of battery life right now on 10.8.1

Same, I noticed a big drop with ML on my RMBP. Was getting 8-10 in Lion and dropped to 5-6 in ML. I hope this brings me back well over the advertised 7 hours of battery life.
 
Good to know they finally fixed that. Im still amazed apple doesn't get something like this right from the start. I mean they test the OS before release dont they, how come nobody noticed it before, and if they did why not fix it and then release the software.
 
Real-world data could be gathered if they tried to do the same that MS does: open betas. It works and Windows 8 is almost bug-free and runs in thousands of PC configurations. :)
Apple has a wide beta distribution beyond developers since Lion, it is just not open, ie, Apple invites you. I've been in this program for Lion and Mountain Lion.
 
I had my battery replaced about a month ago and my MBP 2010 has about 2 hours on a full charge....I thought it was faulty.

:(

GRRRR

I hope this fixes it big style!
 
How did you get in on it? Any useful tips?
I had a free developer account for years with them but only used it for custom, in-house C++ and Fortran code, ie, I never built or released a Mac or iOS application. I also had amassed some credits on Apple's own discussion boards. If I had to venture a guess why I was included I would rather say it was the latter but there probably was a good deal of luck involved as well.
 
And "basic functionality" is all you get with Windows, so perfect! I think we can now all agree that Windows is empirically better than OSX

ouch, never heard an apple user say the windows is used for "basic functionality." Say all you want against it, but that simply is false.
 
ouch, never heard an apple user say the windows is used for "basic functionality." Say all you want against it, but that simply is false.

He didn't say that "basic functionality" is all it's used for, he said it's all you get, which is more or less the same with any OS. Keep in mind that iPhoto and the entire iLife suite is not actually a part of Mac OS. The OS itself only comes with the basic apps expected with any OS, plus a few extra goodies. The real power in Mac OS is at its core, not at its surface. Apple has started to focus on its core apps a bit lately though, so there is more of a gap between Mac OS and Windows now than there used to be on that front.
 
Apple has a wide beta distribution beyond developers since Lion, it is just not open, ie, Apple invites you. I've been in this program for Lion and Mountain Lion.

Developers and a few curious people are not necessarily interested in battery life and the performance and reliability of core OS features.

A broad, open beta program could allow Apple to test what works and what doesn't with the "average joe" or people interested on having a reliable OS since day 1 from launch. Apple only needs to build proper reporting tools.

If Apple wants to make "really great products", ignoring bugs and poor features is not the best way to do it. But I doubt their marketing team will ever let the engineers do that.

It simply won't happen.
 
An what about the sound bug. Is that fixed ? I cant use ML atm as the sound is buggy even under 10.8.1.

:mad:


I can't say I have that issue using a rMBP on 10.8.1. Speakers or headphones hooked up near 100% of the time with no issues. I'll get minor pops in the speakers sometimes from major power fluctuations but that's because it's not behind some fancy PSU and the wiring here sucks.

It seems like those the most affected are on older machines. If I had to bet money Apple only heavily tests on the newest machines -- aside from some minor UI lag and mouse issues ML has been the best early release to date in my book. The battery life for me runs around 6hrs for regular web use and I've got extra stacked processes from VirusBarrier.
 
I can't say I have that issue using a rMBP on 10.8.1. Speakers or headphones hooked up near 100% of the time with no issues. I'll get minor pops in the speakers sometimes from major power fluctuations but that's because it's not behind some fancy PSU and the wiring here sucks.

It seems like those the most affected are on older machines. If I had to bet money Apple only heavily tests on the newest machines -- aside from some minor UI lag and mouse issues ML has been the best early release to date in my book. The battery life for me runs around 6hrs for regular web use and I've got extra stacked processes from VirusBarrier.

VLC has lots of sound problems since Lion and they reported that it is Apple's fault. Maybe because it is open-source?

I also own a rMBP and I have issues with sound in VLC since Lion and also with my former 17" quad-core Macbook Pro, even when after some Lion update I completely lost sound (I had to reinstall the full OS from scratch).

The updates and bugs on Apple's hardware are close to unacceptable, since they have to work with a a very limited hardware pattern. The caveat is that they want to do EVERYTHING.

Nobody does *everything* right, not even Apple.
 
This is the point at which I would consider upgrading (once they fix the ridiculous bugs).
 
Google searches for what YMMV stands for just doubled after that comment, lol.

Hi guys; I performed the tests for The Mac Observer. As I explained in the article, we were also confused as to why the HDD was getting better battery life than the SSD. We looked into it and discovered that our hard drive, a Western Digital Scorpio Blue, is extremely power efficient, using .59 watts at idle and 1.4 watts while active.

This is very low for a mechanical hard drive and our high performance Vertex SSD used more power: 1.3 watts idle, 2.5 watts active.

Some low speed, energy efficient HDDs have closed the gap in power consumption with SSDs, but YMMV.
 
And "basic functionality" is all you get with Windows, so perfect! I think we can now all agree that Windows is empirically better than OSX

I was using Windows the other night and the experience was just so perfect, so much better (i.e. smoother, snappier, and more user friendly) than OS X

...then I woke up.
 
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