You're right, I didn't read his sig. Well in that case I don't know. I do my gaming in bootcamp and am very happy with the GPU performance.
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You're right, I didn't read his sig. Well in that case I don't know. I do my gaming in bootcamp and am very happy with the GPU performance.
What are the odds that it could land without at least another week going by? Has Apple ever seeded a beta and release within the same week?
Ex: Beta on Tuesday, release on Thursday?
Ex: Beta on Tuesday, release on Thursday?
Sorry for butting in, but for points 2 and 3, shouldn't it "just work"? Why do we have to work around Apple's bugs?
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Will still buy 10.9 on day one, I'll just postpone the upgrade...
It should just work, but in my experience, computers rarely do. For what it's worth, I still find a lot more tweaking and fiddling is necessary on Windows machines than on Macs.
No lag at 1440X900 resolution. Lag at 1440X900 HiDPI resolution which is completely normal. The OS is converting from HiDPI to regular 1440X900 while recording since the movie output is at 1440X900 so it's doing much more work at HiDPI settings.
Solution: Change to regular 1440X900 if you want to record screen without lag.
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Yes they did many times before.
Just because you are making your computer convert a video doesn't mean it should crawl like it does. Also, I remembered my second way to show lag. Open the Calendar and flip between months. Also, I'm not saying my retina lags all the time because it doesn't. 50% of the time it is just as smooth as my previous early 2011 13inch running Mountain Lion, but the other 50 it will lag when switching desktops and entering mission control no matter which GPU is currently being used.
Build 12D78
Graphics aren't lagging like the video when not recording screen. Everything is smooth when not recording. Shut down time is less than 5 seconds if all programs are closed prior to shutdown. Audio glitching is fixed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWpKHrGLbt0&feature=youtu.be
http://youtu.be/YWpKHrGLbt0
Graphics aren't lagging like the video when not recording screen. Everything is smooth when not recording. Shut down time is less than 5 seconds if all programs are closed prior to shutdown. Audio glitching is fixed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWpKHrGLbt0&feature=youtu.be
http://youtu.be/YWpKHrGLbt0
Wow, that's quite an aggressive reply. 3 generations old? The E7-8870 was released Q2'11. It's only outdated if you consider the tick/tock cycle to be consistent with the consumer CPUs (SandyBridge, IvyBridge, etc.) And as we know, that's never been the case with workstation CPUs.
To justify my point, there wasn't really much of an excuse to cease development on the Mac Pro. The person I'd initially replied to almost had an implication that Apple's Mac Pros were running the latest hardware, and there was simply a technical barrier from a lack of new Intel CPUs. That wasn't the case; it's not like Apple were 'waiting' for the next generation CPUs. There were ones with huge performance increases that were ignored.
And no Thunderbolt/USB 3 … well, that's ridiculous from their 'Pro' computer (but I'm sure everybody's moaned about that enough!) IMHO, Apple should update the Mac Pro as and when new server/workstation chips come out. The whole secretive mentality that comes before iPhone/iPad/Mac releases simply doesn't help those who use the Mac Pros for actual work. Gone are the days when the PMG4/G5s seemed to be updated every 6 months.
Hope this helps clear up my point a bit!
That is obviously BS because they're trying to squash bugs with this release.
10.8.3
I hope that they improve the copy paste function. It has not been changed since OS8...back 16 years ago...when computers were running at 25 megahertz....What does it take to get apple to look at improving basic functions. Many of the staff were not even employed by Apple when OS 8 came out!
I hope that they improve the copy paste function. It has not been changed since OS8...back 16 years ago...when computers were running at 25 megahertz....What does it take to get apple to look at improving basic functions. Many of the staff were not even employed by Apple when OS 8 came out!
Wow! If I'm seeing what I think I am you are entering Expose and then clicking multiple times before it responds. If that is what people are dealing with I feel your pain. That to me would seem like a defective product and should be returnable. Not that it is an option in the computer world but that seems really unacceptable.
OS X Update
I would rather have Apple test, test, test, and get it right than to release an update just to release something. iTunes 11 started with bugs, Lion had plenty of them, Mountain Lion the same. It knocked the efficiency rating of dependable software from Apple down and has caused Apple a few licks in this area. If you are a true Apple product user you would know it is better to have something work right than to keep having patches. That is what made Microsoft so undependable and buggy. Apple needs to get on the top perch.
I would rather have Apple test, test, test, and get it right than to release an update just to release something. iTunes 11 started with bugs, Lion had plenty of them, Mountain Lion the same. It knocked the efficiency rating of dependable software from Apple down and has caused Apple a few licks in this area. If you are a true Apple product user you would know it is better to have something work right than to keep having patches. That is what made Microsoft so undependable and buggy. Apple needs to get on the top perch.
I think he was thinking that when 10.9, Apple could do the same thing they did with 10.8, which was making 10.7 unavailable on the App Store, thus making it impossible to get it for a while, but then again, you can always download the installer and keep it to make a bootable pen drive later on.
I hope you are right about this release. What has OSX been since Lion was released, other than buggy and not capable of managing the hardware properly?
There are multiple issues here.
(a) Yes, in an ideal world things would just work. But the world right now is not ideal, so it's worth letting people know of alternatives so they can decide if those alternatives meet their needs.
(b) Slow restore from deep sleep (hibernation) is not completely Apple incompetence. The issue is that Apple has historically slept computers by retaining the contents of RAM. This allows for very fast wake, but continues to drain the battery slowly even while the machine sleeps, which means that a significant fraction of your battery may go away during 24 hrs of sleep, let alone for a week of sleep.
With SSDs Apple has switched to a policy where, after a sleep of a certain length of time, the RAM is pushed to disk and unpowered. This means that on wakeup the full contents of RAM (which may be eg 16GiB on an rMBP) have to be pulled off the SSD before the machine can really start.
It's a tradeoff of battery vs wakeup time.
(c) Having said (b), which is about engineering tradeoffs and unavoidable, the real problem is that Apple pretty badly screwed up their implementation of hibernation. There are two problems
- the system provides no feedback, no UI to let you know that something is happening and your machine is being restored. If the screen immediately lit up, and a progress bar appeared, you'd feel the wakeup time pass much faster.
- even worse is that there are (this is just a fact) bugs in power management in 10.8.0 through at least 10.8.2, which mean that there is a significant chance, when you wake your machine, that it will not wake up.
So we have a perfect storm for user insecurity --- every time you wake your rMBP it may take a minute or so to actually wake up, and throughout that minute you are in terror that maybe this is one of those occasions where it's simply going to hang and never wake up.
Truly not one of Apple's finest hours, and one hopes a clusterfsck that will be fixed in 10.8.3 (both no more power manager bugs and wakeup progress feedback) and never repeated.
I'm talking specifically about how they release the last update just before the next one comes out (or just after). 10.9 will be summer or fall release, if there isn't a 10.8.4 around then it would be the first time Apple hasn't kept working on the previous OS while developing the new one.
And the number of updates hasn't always gone down, 10.3 had fewer than 10.4.
If your rMBP is not lagging, great for you. But the fact is that this lag DOES exist for many users. Even Apple admits it. When I submitted a bug about the jerkiness is scrolling web sites like TheVerge.com, I was told this was a known bug and had already been dealt with, to some extent, in the latest Webkit nightlies.
I have no idea what you imagine you are achieving by telling people their computers do not behave the way they see them behave every day. This is the worst sort of Apple zealotism, the sort of thing that makes outsiders mock Apple users as absolutely deranged and detached from reality.
Where at it, they should also remap copy and paste keys to Ctrl+C and Ctrl+P respectively. It is so confusing to switch between standard and non-standard key-combinations when working on different platforms.
That'd break 29 years of Mac users' habits. Not going to happen. The command-C/command-p key combinations predate Windows.
Zzzzzzzz.....
What is this? The 13th seed?
Just let me know when there's a golden master candidate.
I think the trend is less updates now, which in theory would mean the product is more mature and requires fewer and less frequent updates.
For the end user this should be a positive.