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I just really wish we would see an updated Nvidia driver version in this build, but so far in the previous beta nothing has really changed.

The overall version is still 304.xx which for PC was released back in July 2012.
 
Or it could just be that now that Johnny Ive is in charge he wants patches and releases to be far more polished before they go public?

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Perhaps they want to release the new Mac Pros imminently and 10.8.3 needs to be loaded onto it? That would mean they better smooth out 10.8.3 instead of having to rely on working on a new 10.8.4 immediately to fix issues with these new systems?

or maybe we have to wait for 10.8.3 to be mentioned in the New Year's Honours list!
 
I've had no issues with 10.8.2 or 10.8.3 however I would still like to see the Mac AppStore get some attention.

Even on a fast connection it has got to be the slowest and most unresponsive piece of Apple software around.
 
The only lag on my 13" rMBP is in Calendar when flipping pages/months. Safari stutters a bit on some sites but it did on my old cMBP as well, especially Tumblr.

The thing is, it shouldnt' do that! I changed the resolution to non-retina levels (not scaled, but actual 1400x900), and it still lags. I don't really care *why*, but a quad-core machine with 1GB graphics memory and a graphics card that can easily handle Crysis 2 shouldn't stutter when displaying ANY 2D stuff. (I've got the 15", but the 13"'s integrated HD4000 is pretty capable too. If it's really not possible to get that eyecandy to run smoothly on a machine with this power, they should do away with the skeuomorphism altogether.
 
My rMBP shuts down very quickly when I ask it to (10.8.2).

I imagine that when you ask OS X to shut down, it will ask each running process to gracefully shutdown if it can, then issue a kill command if the process fails to terminate after more than a 'reasonable' amount of time has elapsed.

This, of course, depends on the software that you have installed, what processes are running, and what they are doing at the time. All of these factors, amongst others, can affect how long it will take your machine to actually power-down.

Never happend with OSX 10.7.X irrespective of the crap on my computer ;)

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You guys are hilariously insufferable.

If Apple rushes out the update then you moan that QC is down and no one tested the software before release. If Apple takes its time prepping an update then you cry that its taking too long, they suck, and only care about iOS.

I mean seriously...

Come on, if 10.8.2 was near perfect you would have a point, but as many users are experiencing issues due to the crappy quality of 10.8.2 they might as well have considered braking this update in 2 part. One part as a bug fix and one part for the new drivers stuff and other *****. The update is being postponed for computers you cannot even buy now; this sucks!
 
Get a grip people! Unless you have a specific problem with your OS X installation that is hampering your everyday workflow, you should be applauding Apple for being more careful now working out all the small bugs, as many of you (with good reason) have been complaining about Apple's QC standards for OSX being slightly lowered the latest 2-3 years. If you're unable to use a specific piece of software with 10.8.2, then I understand your frustration. Otherwise this is just bitching and complaining for the sake of it.
 
Even on a fast connection it has got to be the slowest and most unresponsive piece of Apple software around.

Yes, it's borderline useless. Parts of iTunes are extremely slow aswell! I've read somewhere that the Apple online stores are based on some old code from the 80's...
 
Yes, it's borderline useless. Parts of iTunes are extremely slow aswell! I've read somewhere that the Apple online stores are based on some old code from the 80's...

Old code from the 80's is probably faster than today's code! Back then developers didn't have seemingly unlimited memory space to expand bloated code into - they had to be much more efficient.
 
I really hope so too. To be honest, my current experience with it is beta-like at best. Slow UI, very glitchy Safari, abysmal 2D+3D graphics performance,... Under bootcamp I have about 4x (!) the framerate in some apps. After finally deciding to get myself a new laptop after 6 years with the previous one, it would be nice to finally have it in working order...

Thank you! I'm very bored of these blind people here who claim not have any issues. I can replicate the same lag on any retina machine in my local apple store. 12 machines! Don't tell me there is no lag. Mission control, calendar and safari are just not working as smooth as on non-retina macs. But I'm guess the hundreds of people complaining on several boards are wrong.
 
Thank you! I'm very bored of these blind people here who claim not have any issues. I can replicate the same lag on any retina machine in my local apple store. 12 machines! Don't tell me there is no lag. Mission control, calendar and safari are just not working as smooth as on non-retina macs. But I'm guess the hundreds of people complaining on several boards are wrong.

For the people with 15 inch retina's that don't see any lag then open up Quicktime and record your screen. Let us know if you experience any lag during the screen record.
 
Installed last night on rMBP for fun...

Noticed the following in limited use:

1. Wifi was flakey after install, required reboot, and seems ok now.
2. Wake from deep sleep is still really slow.
3. Safari is smoother on integrated graphics.
4. Was hoping for better 3d performance. I can confirm that the Witcher 2 remains unplayable.
5. Shut-down and Start-up times have improved for me.
 
Will this fix the "swipe back to white invisible page content" bug in safari?

Will this fix broken drag and drop behaviors in finder (scrolls up and down in the view without waiting till you drag to the edges first, making it kinda impossible to maneuver).

Will this fix the finder's tendency to stop letting you move icons around until closing and creating a new view of said folder?
 
New Mac Pro is coming only when Intel releases new Xeon chips — if it is coming at all, that is. Might be Tim Cook hinted at a Thunderbolt-connected box to attach to a 27" iMac for all we know.

Good point, but it's not like Apple are using the top-of-the-range Xeons at the moment. The top-specc'd Xeons currently have 10 cores each; dual-processors will mean a total of 20 cores and 40 threads, far more than Apple's top that had 12.

I doubt that Apple would support quad or maybe octa-processors as you would in high-end workstations, but as the Xeons can do that it's not like the current technology limits decent performance. Apple got lazy - that's the long and short of it.
 
Good point, but it's not like Apple are using the top-of-the-range Xeons at the moment. The top-specc'd Xeons currently have 10 cores each; dual-processors will mean a total of 20 cores and 40 threads, far more than Apple's top that had 12.

I doubt that Apple would support quad or maybe octa-processors as you would in high-end workstations, but as the Xeons can do that it's not like the current technology limits decent performance. Apple got lazy - that's the long and short of it.

Those 10 core Xeons you speak of are 3 generations old, IIRC, not to mention just a single processor was priced between 3000 - 4000 USD. You want Apple to put 2 of those 3 generation old processors in a new Mac Pro? Yeah, that will go well.
 
Focus on usability first

Well, how about adding file management as one focus area? Apple, when will you finally make Finder application usable? Is that difficult to add an option to sort files where folders appear on the top (or better - make this the default)? How about adding multiple tabs?
 
Nope, not unless they break precedent with all previous OSX releases.

Each successive OS X version gets less patches, and the same happens for Windows. They break precedent on every OS release.
 
Installed last night on rMBP for fun...

Noticed the following in limited use:

1. Wifi was flakey after install, required reboot, and seems ok now.
2. Wake from deep sleep is still really slow.
3. Safari is smoother on integrated graphics.
4. Was hoping for better 3d performance. I can confirm that the Witcher 2 remains unplayable.
5. Shut-down and Start-up times have improved for me.

1. Had the same issue right after install on my rMBP 15" but its fine now
2. Disable hibernation
3. Install Webkit, its way more smooth than even the safari in 12D78
4. I doubt you'll see 3D performance improve drastically through any update, Intel's integrated graphics are just poor
 
Well, this should hopefully mean that, when 10.8.3 comes out, 10.8 will be rock solid... just in time for 10.9 to come out, and everything to go back to square one again...

Once bitten, twice shy. I'll be upgrading to 10.9 the day 10.10 is released to the public.
 
4. I doubt you'll see 3D performance improve drastically through any update, Intel's integrated graphics are just poor

The poster you're responding to has a 15-inch Retina, so he would have the 650M. Unless he's having an issue with graphic switching, poor performance has nothing to do with the Intel iGPU.
 
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