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Well, I care about the shutdown time because I often reboot to Boot Camp because OSX is still lacking in some aspects. :cool:

Come on, not everyone uses Macs the same way as you do. :mad:

And, even if it may not bother you, this is still more of a bug.
Regardless of the purpose which may have been to prevent iCloud sync issues or what not.
 
My Mac shuts down in seconds. I don't know what programs you guys run, but I go heavy Final Cut Pro and Logic and my iMac 2011 running the latest software with a SSD has almost instant shutdown.

Good enough for me, it takes longer than it takes to boot to shut down on my fresh new mbp 2012 and I do a lot of rebooting into bootcamp and back to play games then do work, in case any of the people who said that shutdown time doesn't matter were wondering, and it will matter to some people.
 
Those people who don't care about shutdown times, and leave their Macs in a sleep mode all day, probably don't take the Macs out of their houses. They also aren't aware that even if the Mac is encrypted with FileVault2, if a thief gets hold of the Mac in sleep mode, it is not as secure as if it were stolen when totally shut down.

Given this fact, those people who rather pompously brushed aside those who value fast-shutdown times, need to reconsider their stance.

Fast shutdown times encourage me to shut down when I'm not using it since it takes minimal time to start up and shutdown.

But when that process takes more time, the lazy approach is to just leave it in sleep mode, which leaves your Mac more vulnerable to data theft it is stolen while in sleep mode.

To those who lazily just put their Macs to sleep -- and, in their ignorance, BRAG about it -- educate yourself and do this google search:

mac vulnerable sleep shutdown filevault 2

And whilst Apple are at it fixing ML 10.8.4, they might address this security issue that sleeping Macs have.
 
Has anyone actually managed to install those new nvidia drivers? I get an error saying that the image was not recognised.

Just realised that those drivers are for mac pro only, so NOT for laptops :/ lame as *******
 
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Graphics drivers

So six more betas to go before we see it being released..Can anyone shed some light on whether 10.8.4 has new Intel drivers released last month?Does 10.8.4 count HD 4000 as a OpenCL capable device?
 
Those people who don't care about shutdown times, and leave their Macs in a sleep mode all day, probably don't take the Macs out of their houses. They also aren't aware that even if the Mac is encrypted with FileVault2, if a thief gets hold of the Mac in sleep mode, it is not as secure as if it were stolen when totally shut down.
Apple fixed this bug last year in 10.7.2 and newer:
apple.com said:
From:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5002

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Kernel

Available for: OS X Lion v10.7 and v10.7.1, OS X Lion Server v10.7 and v10.7.1

Impact: A person with physical access may be able to access the user's password

Description: A logic error in the kernel's DMA protection permitted firewire DMA at loginwindow, boot, and shutdown, although not at screen lock. This update addresses the issue by preventing firewire DMA at all states where the user is not logged in.

CVE-ID

CVE-2011-3215 : Passware, Inc.

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Given this fact, those people who rather pompously brushed aside those who value fast-shutdown times, need to reconsider their stance.
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To those who lazily just put their Macs to sleep -- and, in their ignorance, BRAG about it -- educate yourself and do this google search:

mac vulnerable sleep shutdown filevault 2
Apple fixed the bug in a security update (see above). No problem. Has nothing to do with ignorance.
 
Has anyone actually managed to install those new nvidia drivers? I get an error saying that the image was not recognised.

Just realised that those drivers are for mac pro only, so NOT for laptops :/ lame as *******

You can still install them using Pacifist. I am reading mixed reviews about getting the new Preference pane working, but the drivers themselves are easy to install.
 
You can still install them using Pacifist. I am reading mixed reviews about getting the new Preference pane working, but the drivers themselves are easy to install.

Err so you are saying that if you open up the .dmg and force install the drivers themselves there is no GPU ID check as when installing them "the right way" ?

Hmm looking at the content I might need a quick guide to how OSX handles files like this :p 30 years of Windows platform helps very little right now.

EDIT: uh i might have it, right click in pacifier and install content.. let me reboot and see what happens.
 
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So I got the nvidia package "installed" meaning I can see the control panel under system settings, it gives me an error when opening (as expected) but unfortunately the driver version when checking is also not updated :/

Not sure how to go about this then? any ideas? thanks
 
So I got the nvidia package "installed" meaning I can see the control panel under system settings, it gives me an error when opening (as expected) but unfortunately the driver version when checking is also not updated :/

Not sure how to go about this then? any ideas? thanks
How is this related to the 10.8.4 seed?
 
How is this related to the 10.8.4 seed?

It is because these new nvidia drivers for the Mac Pro's are newer than the build in the 10.8.4 seed, and since people always talk about the incremental driver version bumps in every seed... well it might not be for you, but I bet that if it was easy to install the newer nvidia on top of the new seed, a lot would.
 
Has anyone actually managed to install those new nvidia drivers? I get an error saying that the image was not recognised.

Nvidia screwed up the download, just change the .dmg at the end to .pkg.

But has anyone installed the drivers WebDriver-313.01.01f03 with 10.8.4? The installer refuses to install on 10.8.4 and I'd like to hear from someone who has it working before installing and potentially borking my system.
 
It is because these new nvidia drivers for the Mac Pro's are newer than the build in the 10.8.4 seed, and since people always talk about the incremental driver version bumps in every seed... well it might not be for you, but I bet that if it was easy to install the newer nvidia on top of the new seed, a lot would.
The trouble with doing this is that pre-release seeds exist for bug testing and by adding different video drivers to the mix, the testing is invalidated.
 
Tried installing WebDriver-313.01.01f03 with pacifist. The new nvidia driver pref pane won't load, gives an error saying to reinstall. I assume it's probably not running the new drivers, is there a way to check that?

Anyone able to run these new drivers on 10.8.4?
 
The installer now has notes:

The 10.8.4 update is recommended for all OS X Mountain Lion users and has features and fixes that improve the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac, including the following:
• Compatibility improvements when connecting to certain enterprise Wi-Fi networks
• Microsoft Exchange compatibility improvements in Calendar
• A fix for an issue that prevented FaceTime calls to non-U.S. phone numbers
• A fix for an issue that may prevent scheduled sleep after using Boot Camp
• Improved VoiceOver compatibility with text in PDF documents
• Includes Safari 6.0.5

Release notes usually suggest it's close to public availability, no?
 
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