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I thought Forestall was iOS?

What was the guy's name who was in charge of OS X before Ive?

Yeah Forestall was iOS. Craig Federighi was and still is in charge of OS X. Now he has control of iOS as well. Ive has human interface responsibilities for both OS X and iOS. So basically, look to Federighi for substantive features in iOS and OS X, and look to Ive for UI elements (In the most liberal sense, I think even gestures and such may be within Ive's realm). Realistically, they will probably work very closely and both of them will deserve credit for whatever comes about.
 
Yeah Forestall was iOS. Craig Federighi was and still is in charge of OS X. Now he has control of iOS as well. Ive has human interface responsibilities for both OS X and iOS. So basically, look to Federighi for substantive features in iOS and OS X, and look to Ive for UI elements (In the most liberal sense, I think even gestures and such may be within Ive's realm). Realistically, they will probably work very closely and both of them will deserve credit for whatever comes about.

Don't people blame Craig for 10.7/10.8, or was that somebody else?
 
I don't blame anyone. I like Mountain Lion. I think Lion could've used more polish before release, but I think Mountain Lion was a return to form. I have very few complaints about 10.8.

Lucky you.

Lion actually worked better in some ways than ML on my Macbook Air... and it's the 2012 model. XD
 
Lucky you.

Lion actually worked better in some ways than ML on my Macbook Air... and it's the 2012 model. XD

That's unfortunate. The weird thing for regarding Lion, is that my problems could have been a bad install. When I got my rMBP, Lion ran pretty well. I still would say Snow Leopard ran better, but I couldn't duplicate several issues. Either way, hopefully 10.9 solves some of the remaining issues for users. Considering the latest rumors seem to imply that Apple is targeting some "pro" users, it should be pretty interesting.
 
That's unfortunate. The weird thing for regarding Lion, is that my problems could have been a bad install. When I got my rMBP, Lion ran pretty well. I still would say Snow Leopard ran better, but I couldn't duplicate several issues. Either way, hopefully 10.9 solves some of the remaining issues for users. Considering the latest rumors seem to imply that Apple is targeting some "pro" users, it should be pretty interesting.

I have high hopes for 10.9
 
Is it Federighi that keeps the bugs rolling in every release? I've never had as many problems as in Lion. Mountain Lion didn't make things much better, if at all.
 
You guys realise Federighi was at Apple during Bertand and Avie's reign, and that OS X still sucked in terms of graphics driver/OpenGL support and was just as buggy at times.
 
Is it Federighi that keeps the bugs rolling in every release? I've never had as many problems as in Lion. Mountain Lion didn't make things much better, if at all.

Yeah, ML is a lot worse for me than lion. So much ****. Can't even get my monitor to work
 
but ZFS? Get real, people.

Why not include zfs and why does this seem far fetched to you? Apple had completely ported zfs to snow leopard server, advertised it in advance as a major feature and then dropped it quietly, possibly because of licensing issues.

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I'll say it again...

This is on the HD 3000. And even the people on the Phoronix forums are tearing these benchmarks to shreds.

As usual... Benchmarks are meaningless when they don't go Apples way..... When they do, benchmarks are extremely important.
 
Unless Larry Ellison's Oracle strikes some agreement to port ZFS to OS X it won't happen. Oracle changed the terms after they bought Sun Microsystems.

Yup. Shame as 10.6 Leopard beta's had ZFS+ for a while, never made it to GM due to this reason. Finder definitely needs an overhaul.

As for Craig Federighi, he is the S.V.P. of Software Engineering responsible for 10.7 and 10.8. Bertrand Serlet announced his departure in 2009, and officially left in 2011. Federighi began work on 10.7 in 2009, with Forestall's assistance in bringing iOS integration further into OS X. For a while after Serlet's departure, there was not a S.V.P. of Software Engineering until Federighi was finally on the board.

Here is Federighi's 2010 Keynote for 10.7 Lion, which had some unfortunate "bugs" during certain tasks:

Gestures fail - Mac OS X 10.7 Preview & Magic Mouse

Apple Mac OSX Lion demo by Craig Federighi at Back to the Mac

Since Federighi, OS X has been a hot mess. From network protocol overhauls in 10.7 with SAMBA, AFP being a complete nightmare, to the disaster that was the Exposé/Spaces overhaul "Mission Control". Thankfully "TotalSpaces" came out to bring back the much desired 10.5/6 "Spaces" and Apple brought back certain "Exposé" options.

While no variant of OS X has been "perfect" (10.1/2, ugh), Serlet certainly produced the superior releases of OS X.
 
Yup. Shame as 10.6 Leopard beta's had ZFS+ for a while, never made it to GM due to this reason. Finder definitely needs an overhaul.

As for Craig Federighi, he is the S.V.P. of Software Engineering responsible for 10.7 and 10.8. Bertrand Serlet announced his departure in 2009, and officially left in 2011. Federighi began work on 10.7 in 2009, with Forestall's assistance in bringing iOS integration further into OS X. For a while after Serlet's departure, there was not a S.V.P. of Software Engineering until Federighi was finally on the board.

Here is Federighi's 2010 Keynote for 10.7 Lion, which had some unfortunate "bugs" during certain tasks:

Gestures fail - Mac OS X 10.7 Preview & Magic Mouse

Apple Mac OSX Lion demo by Craig Federighi at Back to the Mac

Since Federighi, OS X has been a hot mess. From network protocol overhauls in 10.7 with SAMBA, AFP being a complete nightmare, to the disaster that was the Exposé/Spaces overhaul "Mission Control". Thankfully "TotalSpaces" came out to bring back the much desired 10.5/6 "Spaces" and Apple brought back certain "Exposé" options.

While no variant of OS X has been "perfect" (10.1/2, ugh), Serlet certainly produced the superior releases of OS X.

Having worked with Craig at NeXT and Apple anyone who speaks ill of his capabilities is either a computer invalent or arrogant beyond all belief. Craig is a brilliant Architect/Developer and has proven to be a superb SVP.

Bertrand is also brilliant, but neither guy is actually writing the issues you are frustrated with, just in charge of the teams who do the heavy lifting. The release schedules for OS X have slipped in the past 24 months because of the runaway success for iOS.

Throwing more bodies and ramping them up is not an answer. I know at least 50 ex-NeXT/ex-Apple fellow alums that could help but we're busy working in other companies. If Apple opens up their remote work structure I'm sure most would come back.
 
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