I never stated anything personally insulting towards or about Craig Federighi. My comments were professionally oriented, based on developer issues during the 10.7 release as well as other complaints from consumers through 10.8 I am not ignorant nor arrogant, and I do not appreciate taking a forum post to an inappropriate personal level. I am very certain Craig can run circles around me, as well as Bertrand. I'm sorry if you took it personally, was never my intention.
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I never stated anything personally insulting towards or about Craig Federighi. My comments were professionally oriented, based on developer issues during the 10.7 release as well as other complaints from consumers through 10.8 I am not ignorant nor arrogant, and I do not appreciate taking a forum post to an inappropriate personal level. I am very certain Craig can run circles around me, as well as Bertrand. I'm sorry if you took it personally, was never my intention.
Have you looked at the phoronix forums where these were posted?
The HD 3000 drivers have always been rubbish on OSX, and I'm in no way implying this is a positive thing. But take a look at what they actually benchmarked here. This is Sandy Bridge integrated graphics running some games using the quake 3 engine.
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My point is that whilst the benchmarks they ran might not be the best indicator of performance of modern integrated graphics, you've completely failed to explain why there was a difference between Linux and OS X.
So whilst you've pointed out some valid technical problems with their testing, you've failed to explain the differences between in results. Did they employ testing methodology which they knew would favour the Linux drivers? and if so, how?
Personally, it wouldn't surprise me in the least that Linux would outperform OS X, or even Windows. Intel has been actively involved in not just the development of their Linux drivers, but also in significant portions of the graphics subsystems within the OS itself both in the kernel and the userland. They do not have that kind of level of access to closed operating systems.
The Sandy Bridge drivers on OSX are practically legacy at this point. They're no longer getting the updates the HD 4000 is getting.
For instance, the HD 3000 was the only chipset NOT to get some of the new OpenGL extensions in 10.8.3.
https://developer.apple.com/graphicsimaging/opengl/capabilities/
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You always like to answer your own questions? They dropped it for whatever reason(s) they had to.
I don't see an entitlement here to petition things.
I rather they be quick about it and efficiently...don't ya agree?
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i guess i can go with that.
Why?
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ML is a much better OS than SL. Then again I didn't have more issues with Lion than I had with Leopard or SL.
So, one or two design differences and some removal of network protocols and suddenly the OS is a hot mess? Exaggerate much?
Or it was simply during his reign that OS releases which worked better for you were released. To me the best OS Apple has released so far is ML, hands down. I did boot into SL once or twice after I upgraded to ML and I can't even look at how horrible Safari scrolls on SL compared to ML.
My only real issue with ML and Lion is that Finder is unable to maximise windows correctly anymore.
Unless I know what will be in 10.9 you are only waiting for the unknown. Doesn't sound like a good plan to me.
I can't agree more with iBug2. 10.8.3 has been the absolutely best and most bug free release of OS X I've ever used. And I've been there since the early Tiger versions.
And to mention, I'm running this on a first generation rMBP. 10.8.2 was a mess in that it had a lot of bugs, but 10.8.3 has been only great.
And to mention, I'm running this on a first generation rMBP. 10.8.2 was a mess in that it had a lot of bugs, but 10.8.3 has been only great.
Exactly, for YOU.
Plenty of bugs in 10.8.3:
Wifi
Sleep problems
Graphic Driver problems
Slow shut downs
No Menu Bar when starting up
Buggy Disk Utilities
Mail problems
Full screen App Multi Display support
.....And so on.
I have ML on a 2012 Mini and Leopard on a PB and the Powerbook is much more stable than ML 10.8.3.(Also startup and shuts down (much) faster)
Among the issues you listed, sleep and wifi issues, graphic driver problems, no menu bar when starting up and mail issues are not specific to ML. Leopard SL and Lion had them too. Actually the menu bar thing existed since 10.0. Buggy Disk Utilities, what does that mean? And slow shut down is not a bug.
I never ever had the missing Menu bar before ML, I started from 10.0 b up to 10.5.8 then 10.8.
Buggy Disk Utilities, In the first month after I got this Mini I had Errors more than once, all of them solved by moving the file over to my Leopard PB.
My PB G3 and G4 never had sleep issues.
Slow shutdown is not a bug, no but it is annoying for some, hell, as I said before my 8 year old PB starts up and shuts down faster!
Wifi issues I had on the G3 but this was more a problem with the Airport card.
I had it with every single OS X release since 10.0. I guess lucky you then. But it's not a serious bug. You open any app and the bar appears immediately.
What file? My Mac Pro had sleep issues with every OS since Leopard.
None of my macs did shut down fast enough for my taste. My Mac Pro shut down in 2 minutes sometimes with 10.5, now it's around 45 sec, still too long.
I had wifi dropout issues with every portable I owned, under various OS X releases. I'm certain by now that those are not related to the OS but are about hardware and too many wifi signals being in the air.
Images like .dmg .ISO, want to restore to a USB, resource busy was one Error amongst others, and NO, it was not in use.
Oh yes, but that's also a very old bug. It goes back to Tiger at the least. I switched to 3rd party disk utility apps due to that bug years ago. And I still have no idea why it happens and when. Sometimes I can restore the image with no issues, other times the same image gives me the error.
I saw this one before in other versions as well, but not as many as with DU on ML.
It's buggy, when I moved it over it always worked in 10.5.8, and this was several times with several different Errors.
I use Techtool Pro volume cloning for that, but ofc that cannot be used from recovery partition.
I remember this to be an issue in Tiger too, but just click where menu bar should be and it will appear.
As for other "bugs" it's normal software behaviour which depending on the one that uses may or may not be uncovered.
In response to "To me, it makes sense that they are taking longer with this release. It's the first one since Forstall was fired. That only happened very late in 2012. That means that the clock was reset by roughly 6 months. (I am sure that Apple is already developing the next .x or x.0 revision long before the "current, new" revision is released.) The much ballyhooed "de-Forstall-ization" process has to take a while."
Fair point, but I think it's fair to say that there is major upheaval due to Forstall's termination. The pile of resources that need to be applied to both OS X and iOS 7 will not suddenly grow in commensurate size to match the change of course that we are lead to anticipate from Jony Ive. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether we are talking about OSX of iOS: it's a sotware design team that now has to grown in a way that is directed by what used to be "only" a hardware design team.
A reboot is a reboot is a reboot.
Fair point, but I think it's fair to say that there is major upheaval due to Forstall's termination. The pile of resources that need to be applied to both OS X and iOS 7 will not suddenly grow in commensurate size to match the change of course that we are lead to anticipate from Jony Ive. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether we are talking about OSX of iOS: it's a sotware design team that now has to grown in a way that is directed by what used to be "only" a hardware design team.
A reboot is a reboot is a reboot.
I opened up a bunch of bug reports on Exchange and Mail/Calendar. Looks like all my issues have been addressed in this build!!! It is much better at syncing Mail and Calendar, especially on slow and unreliable connections. I still have more testing to do!
Definitely not price or an issue of causing problems upgrading. I just haven't seen a need to upgrade it. It did not really ad a lot in terms of functionality. I think, for myself at least, jumping from 10.7 to 10.9 would be a more substantial upgrade than from 7 to 8.
Re: This shutdown bug.
Can I ask why, in this day and age, why on earth people are doing it so often?!?
My macs never get restarted apart from Software updates or rebooting into Windows. MBP hasn't been restarted in 30 days and MP two weeks!!
If it is done on purpose (which it is) then it isn't a bug...
Can I ask why, in this day and age, why on earth people are doing it so often?!?
My macs never get restarted apart from Software updates or rebooting into Windows. MBP hasn't been restarted in 30 days and MP two weeks!!
If it is done on purpose (which it is) then it isn't a bug...