First, I don't doubt you, but could you explain and prove that statement to those of us who know less about such things please? I am intrigued.
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OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Developer Preview 2 Seeded to Developers
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First, I don't doubt you, but could you explain and prove that statement to those of us who know less about such things please? I am intrigued.
Thx.
Are you freaking kidding me? You don't deserve to have people be civil to you if you're going to make ridiculous statements like that. Apple used to release these developer builds in pretty much a vacuum, because nobody cared. Now that they spend every day on the front page, with uninformed and ignorant people such as yourself throwing darts at them, every thing they do in the normal course of business is dissected like it has some secret meaning.
Every major software company releases regular betas and developer builds as a normal course of product development. Just because it happened today, with NO PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT BY APPLE THEMSELVES, doesn't mean anything in relation to the release of the iPad.
Grow up and get a life.
You would have to be a developer to get that - any such knowledge isnt something that we can reveal without violating NDA.
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Moderators, the above user clearly made comment (that is against all reviews of the iPad) in an attempt to cause trouble.
I request this behavior is dealt with.
Moderators, the above user clearly made comment (that is against all reviews of the iPad) in an attempt to cause trouble.
I request this behavior is dealt with.
What do you know about his intentions? Are they even relevant for the truthfulness (or lack thereof) in his statement?
Gatekeeper is a show of support for the non-MAS developer community. These developer previews are to get developers ready for final release, not to make them waste time making apps that won't work on the final release.
Why would it make sense for Apple to not require the Mac App Store during the testing period? This is not the only period in which developers are creating and testing. They could not be expected to submit an app and just hope that the Notification Centre stuff works.
I heard the same stuff from bloggers (e.g. John Gruber) about non-MAS apps, however it seems like Apple changed their mind or it was miscommunicated. OS X is locked down in some senses, for example the default Gatekeeper setting does not allow non-signed applications. I presume Gatekeeper technology lets the OS know the status (MAS, signed, unsigned) of an app and chooses to allow its Notification Centre notifications.
Yeah, checked my list of applications that use Growl and are not from the App Store:
1Password (is available on App Store though on Lion, I'm using SL)
Arq
Daisydisk (crippled version on App Store)
Dropbox
Firefox
Flow
Handbrake
Hazel
Knox
Max
Quicksilver
Skype
Sparrow (is available on App Store)
Spotify
Transmit
VLC
There is an app for that...
http://collect3.com.au/hiss/
Photo booth was a silly little program, and yet it was marketed exactly like LaunchPad, a new feature. So at least be consistent with the criticism. If you think LaunchPad is gimmicky, which almost all of us do, then Photo Booth gets the same treatment because that's what it was. A gimmick. Both are apps, both don't consume any resources unless you open them, and both were listed among the main new features of the new OS.
And how do Calendar and Contacts offer less functionality in Lion? They offer exactly the same functionality as their SL counterparts. They aren't gimmicky. You can't consider a UI change a gimmick. It's the same app with a different look. If the new app is a gimmick, then the old one has to be as well. Mission control is not a gimmick. It's less functional than Expose on certain cases, and more functional in other cases. Unfortunately the cases where it's less functional are more common for my use.
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Especially since Apple has rigged it so older versions of OSX won't even run on the new hardware.
Are you implying that Apple started doing this with Lion? That would be a big fat lie.
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You mean 95% market share?
Yeah right, Windows has 95% marketshare because it has legacy support...
Get real. Windows 8 can break all legacy support and function only in machines sold in the last 2 years, yet Windows would still maintain that marketshare. You think people would switch to macs just because their machine doesn't run Win 8?
They changed the Safari loading bar to a more bright one ind the begging and becomes more darker the more it loads
I'm currently running OS X 10.7 Server Developer Preview 1... is it just me or is there no Server Developer Preview 2 available? It's not on the main page and it's nowhere to be found on the complete list of available downloads either.
I can imagine myself becoming hopelessly stuck if I load the client version of DP2 on top of the server version of DP1. Has anybody tried this? Has anybody noticed whether they've made an announcement somewhere?
There's no mention of it in the seed's changelog, as far as I can see...
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It might be a "stupid decision" though that's arguable. (I will argue against it briefly.) It certainly isn't what filing bug reports is for, as it isn't a bug. One files a bug when one encounters behaviors that do not conform to the expectation created by documentation or by reasonable presumptions about use, or when there exists a fault that renders a machine unstable and/or inoperable. The decision to make Notification Centre not interoperate with non-AppleStore apps is none of the above, and therefore filing a bug report is the wrong way of "protesting".
(As for protest, we all know Apple couldn't care less what we think, and that they made this decision knowing it would likely be unpopular.)
Now, turning to the matter itself, consider this: Apple is enforcing Sandboxing as a pre-requisite for AppStore status. Simultaneously it is allowing Notification Center access to AppStore apps only. This means they've very consciously set up a set of incentives to offset the onus of complying to the Sandboxing policies.
If you think about it, all-and-sundry access to the Notification Center could be extraordinarily annoying. Think of the potential for spamming, how annoying it'd be if a small random application you downloaded from Wherever could serve as a conduit from some third-party Spamhaus to your Notification Center, (at worst) inundating you with Viagra spam or (at best) acting as a Groupcon shrill.
No, it's not a smart idea at all. Apple is being prudent and is protecting the end-user's experience by making a decision that has some upside in exchange for some downside. That's the essence of decision-making, it's all too easy to make only those decisions that carry no disadvantage.
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Just be cause he disagrees with you (and almost everybody else) doesn't mean s/he deserves to be "dealt with". That's the essence of freedom of expression. How about we "deal" with all those who took the bait and disagreed with him/her instead? Oh no... that would be "unfair"...
I can imagine myself becoming hopelessly stuck if I load the client version of DP2 on top of the server version of DP1. Has anybody tried this? Has anybody noticed whether they've made an announcement somewhere?
There's no mention of it in the seed's changelog, as far as I can see...
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It might be a "stupid decision" though that's arguable. (I will argue against it briefly.) It certainly isn't what filing bug reports is for, as it isn't a bug. One files a bug when one encounters behaviors that do not conform to the expectation created by documentation or by reasonable presumptions about use, or when there exists a fault that renders a machine unstable and/or inoperable. The decision to make Notification Centre not interoperate with non-AppleStore apps is none of the above, and therefore filing a bug report is the wrong way of "protesting".
(As for protest, we all know Apple couldn't care less what we think, and that they made this decision knowing it would likely be unpopular.)
Now, turning to the matter itself, consider this: Apple is enforcing Sandboxing as a pre-requisite for AppStore status. Simultaneously it is allowing Notification Center access to AppStore apps only. This means they've very consciously set up a set of incentives to offset the onus of complying to the Sandboxing policies.
If you think about it, all-and-sundry access to the Notification Center could be extraordinarily annoying. Think of the potential for spamming, how annoying it'd be if a small random application you downloaded from Wherever could serve as a conduit from some third-party Spamhaus to your Notification Center, (at worst) inundating you with Viagra spam or (at best) acting as a Groupcon shrill.
No, it's not a smart idea at all. Apple is being prudent and is protecting the end-user's experience by making a decision that has some upside in exchange for some downside. That's the essence of decision-making, it's all too easy to make only those decisions that carry no disadvantage.
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Just be cause he disagrees with you (and almost everybody else) doesn't mean s/he deserves to be "dealt with". That's the essence of freedom of expression. How about we "deal" with all those who took the bait and disagreed with him/her instead? Oh no... that would be "unfair"...
That is a really cool idea. AirPlayDesktopExtend. Hell, if Apple doesn't do it, great idea for an app. If software can "trick" OSX into thinking a USB port is a display, why not do it over wifi via AirPlay?
FUD.
Windows 8 has the same hardware requirements as Vista Home Premium - so we're talking about support on systems from fall 2006, more than 5 years.
And it breaks little legacy support - the desktop and all of the APIs are still there (at least on x86/x64 systems - I'd expect much of the legacy support to be dropped for ARM tablet-based systems).
What bothers me more is all the people replying, where one comment can be ignored (and click on the vote down arrow if you wish) there's another 20 people that cant stop themselves from quoting the post and carrying on the nonsense through the whole thread.
You mean 95% market share?
You know perfectly well the story of how that marketshare came to be.
Does this DP fix any bugs? I installed the first one but had to go back to Lion because it was way too unstable to use.