If I had to do a clean install every time, I'd never update until I bought a new system. I haven't had problems this significant in the last decade, though I've always upgraded in-place. It's incumbent upon the OS vendor to get it right, before they declare it ready for prime time. And, while I'd accept a few fringe apps to have an issue or two, the MS Office suite isn't in that category.
Apple trollin' Microsoft by breaking Office?
well aware of what an upgrade is, apple has them every year. Again, a wipe and fresh install is what you claim Apple recommends?
Bullocks.
I couldn't have said this better. El Capitan has been the single worst OS update from Apple I have seen in...forever. And I've been using Macs since System 7.5! It honestly ranks below some of Microsoft's updates.
Bluetooth? Broken. USB? Broken, and in a way that forces restarts. Encrypted external drives? Asks me for passwords when they are connected...several times and even though the passwords are in my key chain...then complains that they're already unlocked! Disk Utility? Confusing and borderline unusable UI coupled with serious bugs. Sleep takes forever and sometimes my MBP won't wake back up. Shutdown takes forever. Mind you this is with a SATA III SSD (feel really sorry for anyone with a HDD).
I've seen the menubar just stop highlighting and responding. I could pull down menus but not select anything. Restart via power button.
The Dock will stop auto showing. You can turn off auto hide and it works, but turn auto hide back on and it ignores your mouse again. Restart.
Transitions between spaces can now be terribly jerky/choppy. Wasn't this supposed to be a performance update? (And where did my previews go? Why must I shove my mouse pointer to the top of the screen to see them?)
Let's not even talk about Disk Utility First Aid reporting a major problem with my drive a couple days after upgrading, forcing a Time Machine restore. (I'm convinced First Aid actually caused the problem.)
This MBP was rock solid before the upgrade. Rock. Solid. I would reboot once a month...maybe...and not have any issues.
Now? I'm scared of the thing. How or what will 10.11 break next?
I've had several people say "oh do a clean install!" Honest question: why would that change a single thing? If 3rd party software is causing all of these problems it's just going to get reinstalled because I need it. I spend money on Macs to AVOID Windows nonsense solutions like "just start over from scratch." And people complaining about the same things have already tried that. It didn't work.
And to think I got excited when I heard that El Capitan was going to be focused on bug fixes and performance. Visions of Snow Leopard danced in my head.
What a disappointment. You can keep your gradients and transparency and iPhone integration. El Capitan isn't half the OS Snow Leopard was. I'm not sure it's half the OS Windows 7 is!
Steve is rolling in his grave.
I never said that - stop lying and stick to what was said and not what you believe was said.
I never said that - stop lying and stick to what was said and not what you believe was said.
"We're talking about upgrades NOT updates - please learn the difference."
OK, I'll bite again...what are you saying here.
I don't like to be referred to as a lier either, thank you very much.
Again, a wipe and fresh install is what you claim Apple recommends?
Let's just kill the "clean install" debate entirely since it's not worth mention much less a "he said / she said" debate.
On Macs "clean install" is a placebo. If you're not having significant problems with 10.11 it's because you're not exercising the machine the same way others are. It's not because you happened to clean install.
Also, the change in the Disk Utility isn't a 'bug' or a 'fault' but by deliberate design - just because you don't like something doesn't make it automatically a bug no matter how much you'd like to stamp your feet and throw a temper tantrum. Regarding the features taken away, if you were a power user then you'd simply using the diskutil from terminal and have all the power/flexibility that is available. Apple has simplified the GUI for the masses and if you want to go beyond basic functionality then open up the terminal.
Was it really set up to be 100% controllable though a GUI?I'm sorry, but this is an insipid downright rotten thing to say and worse yet it smacks of fanaticism to boot. Disk Utility has had those functions forever and telling someone to use the terminal defeats the ENTIRE POINT of OS X, which was the first (and only, IMO) operating system to tame a UNIX or UNIX-LIKE operating system to be 100% controllable from a slick GUI. But now according to you, we should all go back to a shell to do everything 'because that's what power users do'. So should people making professional audio or videos just use iMovie since it's made for the so-called MASSES? Give a me a fracking break! Easy-to-use doesn't mean toothless for god's sake!
Was it really set up to be 100% controllable though a GUI?
Yet the growing open/save dialogue box as reported by 'Mac Performance Guide' is addressable by doing a clean install
Also, the change in the Disk Utility isn't a 'bug' or a 'fault' but by deliberate design - just because you don't like something doesn't make it automatically a bug no matter how much you'd like to stamp your feet and throw a temper tantrum.
if you were a power user then you'd simply using the diskutil from terminal and have all the power/flexibility that is available. Apple has simplified the GUI for the masses and if you want to go beyond basic functionality then open up the terminal.