This was an Apple problem NOT Microsoft. They need Apple to fix the issue which it looks like it will in 10.11.1. Apple is issuing the fix not Microsoft.
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OS X El Capitan 10.11.1 Public Release Coming Soon With Fixes for Office 2016, Mail, and More
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This was an Apple problem NOT Microsoft. They need Apple to fix the issue which it looks like it will in 10.11.1. Apple is issuing the fix not Microsoft.
Four years is a long, long time between releases. We've had 3/4 operating systems released by Apple in that period of time, with el Capitan having the most significant changes to it's internal structure. Whatever assumptions were made during the initial stages of development are probably null at this point, and I also assume hundreds of people worked on this project (I have no idea). If a project increases in size and scope, especially if multiple dev teams are working on it, then it quickly becomes very difficult for anyone to even understand the codebase well enough to confidently modify it for performance gains. This problem only gets worse as time goes on and more developers add features.
Apple one is WAY cutier than all other competitors.Have you seen the stupid new Facebook emoticons?
I'm happy for every dollar Apple pays its designers.
Yeah. A very good point.
Hard to believe how difficult it will be for Apple to fit their software on such a highly limited set of hardware.
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Well, since this is an OS X update and is expected to fix the Office crashing issue... this doesn't seem like a case of an app needing to "catch up".
I used to look forward to major Apple updates, and used to religiously install them the first day they were ready. But these past few years, it seems like waiting for the .2 release of any new OS X version has become a smart move (and don't get me started about some of the brain-dead iOS 9 bugs...).
Exactly as you describe. People are hating on Microsoft but I never had a problem using 2016 on Beta builds, so there must be something in the final build that broke compatibility.
Couldn't agree more, supposedly El Capitan was going to fix the wifi issues experienced with Yosemite but for me that hasn't been the case! I am constantly losing wifi connection and have to disconnect and/or restart to get it back. So frustrating!
Which means if it does not perform as quick or quicker on the same hardware it's written badly and should not be released to the public until rectified.
No kidding. Who cares about stupid taco or unicorn emojis. How about putting back the ability to sort Notes alphabetically. Unbelievable that this feature was taken out in El Capitan.
Because most of the problems are not hardware related. Sometimes a hardware problem can be solved with a firmware update, but most times it's hardware replacements for hardware problems and software fixes for software problems. Apples software isn't any less complex than Linux or Windows.
Although OS X 'El Capitan' like any software will have bugs it is important not to ignore Microsoft's role in this fiasco given that I've outlined many times in the past the woeful nature of Office for Mac when compared to the Windows version. I could understand then not caring about OS X if they were the old Microsoft where everything pivots on what Windows wants but Nadella has talked about ensuring that end users get a first class experience on the platforms they support. Here we are with Office 2016 and it is still the giant mess it has always been but I'm not hopeful they'll address the issues I've listed in the past.
Regarding El Capitan in general, compared to past releases it is rock solid - fast, reliable and sure, there are so rough edges that other shave listed but given the growing relationship between Apple and IBM along with Apple and Microsoft I think that we'll be seeing a more conservative approach to operating system development going forward where we don't be seeing brainfart ideas such as changing subsystems such as mDNSresponder with discoveryd like what happened in 10.10 only for there to be a scramble to back peddle because it wasn't all that it was cracked up to be in the end.
Regarding El Capitan in general, compared to past releases it is rock solid - fast, reliable and sure, there are so rough edges that other shave listed but given the growing relationship between Apple and IBM along with Apple and Microsoft I think that we'll be seeing a more conservative approach to operating system development going forward where we don't be seeing brainfart ideas such as changing subsystems such as mDNSresponder with discoveryd like what happened in 10.10 only for there to be a scramble to back peddle because it wasn't all that it was cracked up to be in the end.
Glad I am not the only person experiencing this. The slow startup times are unacceptable.
I can run office 2011, but I removed 16' due to being a dead stick.
I will just stick with my old version until the 2020 release.
I will just stick with my old version until the 2020 release.
Yeah, forget about fixing sleep tokens for NFS UNIX networking (an official part of UNIX and LINUX) for the past two major versions of OS X, but getting that middle finger icon out there is of prime importance!
That would be a nice assumption if Office 2016 were not using completely new multi-platform architecture, which it quite obviously does.
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Why are you guys still using Office? It's not going to get better.
El Capitan didn't break anything - Microsoft wrote bad software, and the only reason it breaks is because it's using sketchy parts of the OS they shouldn't be touching, that's literally the 'breaking change' in el Capitan, it's not a bug. But how much do you really think Microsoft cares? They probably told Apple to modify their OS just for their program, and their code is probably so complex that changing whatever they did was probably a huge pain (for everybody).
why are people using office is the funniest question in this thread
do you know for sure what you are asserting or just making things up?
You sure are making a lot of assumptions right there.
Or do you have proof of your statements?
Still not acceptable no matter the excuses. No new version should run slower than the version from 2011 on the same hardware.
Can I just say what a terrible mess Office 365 for Business is. I understand it's upon the by now true and tried SharePoint server technology - BUT IT DOES NOT WORK AS ADVERTISED.
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I have a number of serious gripes for our mixed OS office environment, but the main one is absolutely not excusable: Ofice 365 for Business users cannot synchronize shared folders to their desktop/laptop, they must log in and do work in Office online or download the file to work on it locally and upload it back through their browser.
Shared files and folders are invisible from within Office 2016 applications and from the OneDrive client.
So .... we're paying for the privilege yet missing out on a key collaboration feature that a FREE consumer OneDrive is offering. Not to mention the latest version of Office is incompatible with the latest version of OS X.
The workaround? Install Dropbox until this technology matures.
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<RANT>
I have a number of serious gripes for our mixed OS office environment, but the main one is absolutely not excusable: Ofice 365 for Business users cannot synchronize shared folders to their desktop/laptop, they must log in and do work in Office online or download the file to work on it locally and upload it back through their browser.
Shared files and folders are invisible from within Office 2016 applications and from the OneDrive client.
So .... we're paying for the privilege yet missing out on a key collaboration feature that a FREE consumer OneDrive is offering. Not to mention the latest version of Office is incompatible with the latest version of OS X.
The workaround? Install Dropbox until this technology matures.
</ RANT>
So what happening with iPhoto? Has it been BINNED? I've tried "every which way but loose", to get it (UK). If it's NOT available it should be removed from the App Store!
using El Capitan 10.11
using El Capitan 10.11
So sick of these beachballs and bugs... worst OS upgrade in a while.