OS X Lion Golden Master Seeded to Developers

[Chairman Plow]

Shocked...

Has ProTools ever NOT been broken by even the most minor of OS updates? What is it in their program that makes it so fragile?

For as long as I can remember, Avid(Digidesign) hasn't had a version of Pro Tools that readily worked with a new OS. Rather than wait the usual 3 to 6 months for an update, I've taken the liberty of transitioning to Logic Pro. It works in Snow Leopard, and every Dev Preview build of Lion, including the GM.

 

[birch25]

I begin my Mac career with the release of 10.4 It truly was a generation ahead of XP. I preordered 10.5 and even bought the time machine harddrive. I preordered 10.6 for the low price of $30. I've owned 7 different Macs during that time. But with the release of 10.7, I've decided to return to Windows.

10.7 represents a loss of a lot of features that initially made me fall in love with the Mac: iSync, Front Row, etc. But they're going the way of the dodo. And with that I try out windows 7.

iSync was one of the major things that keep you on OS X?

 

[Thunderbird]

PhotoShop, InDesign, DreamWeaver and Illustrator CS5 have all been fine for me on all of the Lion builds, including now the GM.

How have you found CS5 to work with Mission Control and Spaces, any problems?

 

[derekamoss]

It should be more like "CLICK HERE TO CREATE A BOOTABLE DISK".

there is no need for a bootable disk anymore. You can clean install through the recovery partition. Booting up in the recovery partition downloads Lion and then installs. You can use disk utility in the recovery partition to erase your hd before you start.

 

[petvas]

there is no need for a bootable disk anymore. You can clean install through the recovery partition. Booting up in the recovery partition downloads Lion and then installs. You can use disk utility in the recovery partition to erase your hd before you start.

Of course there is a need to have a bootable drive. When you want to replace your hard disk, or when the hard disk has failed you will need to boot from dvd...

 

[Chundles]

Does anyone know what happened to the library folder that used to be in the user's documents folder? I don't see it with lion and I saved a bunch of stuff there for privacy reasons.

It's still there but you have to look hard. Click on Go in the Menu bar, hold down Option and you should see it.

 

[Fazzl]

It's still there but you have to look hard. Click on Go in the Menu bar, hold down Option and you should see it.

Thanks! Is there a better place to hide files on the mac?

 

[derekamoss]

Of course there is a need to have a bootable drive. When you want to replace your hard disk, or when the hard disk has failed you will need to boot from dvd...

true but if you have a good back up system the recovery partition would also be backed up and could boot off of that. For the most part if you are worried about making a dvd you know how to use disk utility to burn a dmg. Apple has made that dmg easily accessible.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Shocked...

Has ProTools ever NOT been broken by even the most minor of OS updates? What is it in their program that makes it so fragile?

I would imagine something like Protools, instead of using Apple's APIs takes advantage of low level stuff that slightly changed would break.

Or they have Linux driver developers making protools.

 

[Oletros]

there is no need for a bootable disk anymore. You can clean install through the recovery partition. Booting up in the recovery partition downloads Lion and then installs. You can use disk utility in the recovery partition to erase your hd before you start.

Why I do have to waste more than 4GB of my SSD to only install an OS? I hated it on Windows computers and won't love it on my Mac

 

[Fazzl]

I just installed the GM Lion update but it's saying my xcode is too old version. I have 4.0.2. I'm confused, do I need to download 4.2 beta 2 or the 4.1 preview? And is there any way I can still submit apps using either of these to the app store?

 

[lars666]

Why I do have to waste more than 4GB of my SSD to only install an OS? I hated it on Windows computers and won't love it on my Mac

I read that the recovery partition is only about 600 MB big and the rest will be downloaded while installing from the Internet ... Did I understand something wrong here?

 

[Schizoid]

Any Server guys out there messed with new Lion yet?

I've installed Server (plus the new tools SA, WGM etc) , but am having great trouble with the following:

webDAV (doesn't work)
AFP (only way to configure it is through /Library/Preferences/AppleFileServer)
Profile Manager (crashing in the web interface)
NetBoot (bit premature I know, but won't boot from the lion ESD image I made through the new System Image Utility)

 

[ovrlrd]

Any Server guys out there messed with new Lion yet?

I've installed Server (plus the new tools SA, WGM etc) , but am having great trouble with the following:

webDAV (doesn't work)
AFP (only way to configure it is through /Library/Preferences/AppleFileServer)
Profile Manager (crashing in the web interface)
NetBoot (bit premature I know, but won't boot from the lion ESD image I made through the new System Image Utility)

Server always seems like the most buggy when a new version of OS X comes out (partly lack of testing and partly because it is not likely to have people upgrade right away). I am not surprised at all by what are you saying.

 

[WeegieMac]

Minor issue.

When the computer is woken from sleep mode, the animations going to/from full screen mode on all apps become incredibly juddery.

A quick reset solves this.

 

[iBug2]

Software RAID not supported. Can't install Lion onto RAID.

Also Disk Utility cannot verify/repair and verify/repairpermissions on RAID disks.

This is lame.

 

[dryjoy]

For as long as I can remember, Avid(Digidesign) hasn't had a version of Pro Tools that readily worked with a new OS. Rather than wait the usual 3 to 6 months for an update, I've taken the liberty of transitioning to Logic Pro. It works in Snow Leopard, and every Dev Preview build of Lion, including the GM.

Hey, that's great news! I'm a committed Logic user and I had been hearing that people were having trouble with it in Lion, but it sounds as if you have had a good experience.

And... is that a full screen icon on the top left of the Logic window in your screenshot? If so, that's lush. I have been looking forward to Logic in full screen, but assumed it would not be supported immediately. I expected it would need at least a minor update if not Logic 10.
Perhaps the full screen support was slipped in to that last Logic update back in May?

I'm really looking forward to Lion now. I've already cloned my boot partition on the Mac Pro so that I have a test bed for Lion.

 

[ScottishDuck]

I've not read the thread, but can I get a confirmation on this.

Time Machine Backup on Snow -> Clean Install of Lion -> Restore

Working OK?

 

[lars666]

As soon as Lion has it's public release I'm ordering a 27" iMac w. the 3.4GHz i7... but not sooner than that.

I'm still using my August 2007 24" iMac C2D 2.4GHz... time for an upgrade.

Why the wait? You'll get Lion for free even if you already buy now with Snow Leopard ...

 

[derekamoss]

Why I do have to waste more than 4GB of my SSD to only install an OS? I hated it on Windows computers and won't love it on my Mac

Because you are one of the people who would like a dvd. I'm pretty sure anyone who thinks about needing a dvd of lion is smart enough to ask that question in google which will lead you to disk utility and a lion dmg. The people that this would bother are probably online and at least have a little computer experience to even know to search google for an answer. For the people who do not know any better and something happens like the HD fails they are going to take their computer to the apple store anyways because they don't know about just buying a new HD and installing it. Thus for the people who want a dvd you probably already know how to burn a dvd of Lion. That's where the no need of physical disk comes into play.

 

[slackpacker]

still the hideous silver orb dock... bleh!

 

[Oletros]

Because you are one of the people who would like a dvd. I'm pretty sure anyone who thinks about needing a dvd of lion is smart enough to ask that question in google which will lead you to disk utility and a lion dmg. The people that this would bother are probably online and at least have a little computer experience to even know to search google for an answer. For the people who do not know any better and something happens like the HD fails they are going to take their computer to the apple store anyways because they don't know about just buying a new HD and installing it. Thus for the people who want a dvd you probably already know how to burn a dvd of Lion. That's where the no need of physical disk comes into play.

Ein? I don't want a DVD or a physical disk, the only thing I want is no forced recovery partition. I will transfer the dmg image to a USB stick, that's all.

 

[petvas]

Any Server guys out there messed with new Lion yet?

I've installed Server (plus the new tools SA, WGM etc) , but am having great trouble with the following:

webDAV (doesn't work)
AFP (only way to configure it is through /Library/Preferences/AppleFileServer)
Profile Manager (crashing in the web interface)
NetBoot (bit premature I know, but won't boot from the lion ESD image I made through the new System Image Utility)

Webdav works fine here. remember, you have to also enable the web service in order for webdav to work.

 

[CyBeRino]

Ein? I don't want a DVD or a physical disk, the only thing I want is no forced recovery partition. I will transfer the dmg image to a USB stick, that's all.

The "recovery hd" actually serves more uses than just that. It's also the thing your computer boots into in its safari-only mode, and it's a requirement to get FileVault 2 going (as it is unencrypted, and thus readable by the computer before you entering the password.)

 

[RJCP]

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How are the Mission Control and Launchpad animations? In DP4 they were laggy as hell (I have an early 2009 Aluminium MacBook).