Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
Nightlies are offered for Lion compatibility. I can wait a little longer.
OS X Lion Golden Master Seeded to Developers
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I believe they are asking if you can upgrade from developer preview, to public release and beyond.
Found from a quick web serch, the language is clear, and despite this being from an earlier release of Lion, I doubt it is any different currently.
http://forum.osxlatitude.com/index.php?/topic/261-osx-107-lion-clientserver-release-notes/
My Developer Sub is not current, so I can't check from the Developer support site to confirm, but it looks quite similar to the Tiger & Leopard developer preview preamble.
840,
The bigger question was whether the GM would be upgradeable through software update exactly as the downloadable consumer version Apple is about to make available.
There is a conflict of answers here with people saying it will upgrade and then saying "I would wait and buy the final version."
The bigger question was whether the GM would be upgradeable through software update exactly as the downloadable consumer version Apple is about to make available.
There is a conflict of answers here with people saying it will upgrade and then saying "I would wait and buy the final version."
PurrBall
macrumors 65816
I haven't tested it extensively yet, but yes, it does.
petvas
macrumors 603
You can upgrade from developer preview 4 update 1 to the GM despite what Apple is saying. Of course it isn't recommended, but it works.
The GM is the final version unless a showstopper is found.
That is the exact question I was addressing, from my comment below
840quadra said:
Public release meaning 10.7, and beyond meaning 10.7.1 .
For clarification I believe that the OP was discussing upgrading from GM to release and beyond. Meaning, Upgrading from a Developer GM, to the full production release of OSX Lion 10.7, and subsequent updates thereafter.
I understand upgrading within the preview is supported, it most always has been, however upgrading from a Preview to a later release upgrade has not been supported. That being said, I don't know the wording in the GM preview of Lion as I don't have a copy of my own.
harrisondavies
macrumors 6502
Anyone know how to get rid of items from the Launchpad?
Old apps are showing there from when I had Parallels installed, and the windows apps I shared with OSX are appearing there but not in main app folder.
Old apps are showing there from when I had Parallels installed, and the windows apps I shared with OSX are appearing there but not in main app folder.
EXACTLY! Thank you so much for clarifying the
very question I have tried to get answered.
It *seems* the GM can be upgraded to the full
production release via software updates based upon
past GM releases (Snow Leopard) -- but nobody is
positively sure and nobody is quoting the exact
release notes that accompany this GM release.
So far, so good. My plugins (YES!!!) work fine as well. As for using Logic in full screen glory? Why yes, yes you can.
That's great. I wasn't that excited about full-screen until I thought about using Logic full-screen. I bet it's really nice.
chrfr
macrumors G5
Pro Tools hasn't even been certified for 10.6.8 yet, so asking for full functionality with 10.7 seems more than a little optimistic at this point.
Chairman Plow
macrumors regular
Not really...... which is why I had Logic at the ready.
blackburn
macrumors 6502a
Anybody knows if it's possible to remove the iDisk shortcut from the finder's side bar? (found it, finder settings)
This ain't Lion, it's "iOS Theme Pack for Mac OS X". At least it got a little faster, but way slower in comparison with snow leopard.
And has anybody found a way to hide apps from the launchpad? Many helper apps appear there (from other programs). Anyway it isn't that useful.
This ain't Lion, it's "iOS Theme Pack for Mac OS X". At least it got a little faster, but way slower in comparison with snow leopard.
And has anybody found a way to hide apps from the launchpad? Many helper apps appear there (from other programs). Anyway it isn't that useful.
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ovrlrd
macrumors 65816
Not here, they open right away, maybe it's because your system is still indexing spotlight or something? I have never seen Finder run this fast before in Snow Leopard.
Granted I have not run the same apps as you probably, but none of the apps I have tested have crashed once yet. Neither have the first party apps, but I wouldn't be surprised if stuff did crash. Every GM build has been this way to some extent, but I am very impressed at the lack of crashy in this one.
Some people are having problems, while other people are not. I don't know about Disk Utility, but it seems installing on RAID works great on most systems.
So weird you are having Finder issues, it's one of the best apps on Lion right now in my opinion. Haven't had it lose settings, though I think I see what you are talking about with the resizing, which is extremely minor and hardly noticeable.
Seems even smoother here than in Snow Leopard. Safari is another one of the best apps in Lion right now, it's extremely snappy and works great. The only time I saw "lag" was when loading a large image and scrolling around it, which isn't too big of a deal.
I think I see what you mean by this, it doesn't "take time" it just seems like there is a bit a delay when you switch between images too quickly. As long as I don't switch too quickly I don't notice this.
I disagree, this feels less rushed than Snow Leopard did. The bugs so far sound like mostly in third party apps, which Apple never has control over. The RAID issue is interesting, and I hope they figure that out, because the reports seem mixed at the moment.
As I mentioned to iBug2, Finder seems even smoother to me than in SL. What do you mean by no colors? None on the sidebar? That seems like you are just complaining because it's different, you get used to it pretty quickly. I prefer it this way but I am sure some app like Candybar will fix it. Also, I had no problem "dragging out" favorites. They sort of redesigned the dragging, so that you don't drag accidentally, I love that I never do it on accident anymore because I have lost several favorites in the past.
Super smooth on a 5870.
Woah that doesn't sound good.
Huh? It is fine here.
Can't really help you there, my MacBook Air doesn't get any hotter than it did with Snow Leopard. Seems like your system is struggling to keep up with it though and I have no idea why, maybe your GPU?
From what I gather there is certain configs where Lion runs amazing and certain ones where it doesn't. I think we should keep on eye on this, might be video card related.
Overall I can't say I am experiencing the issues you are having. A couple extremely minor things that are more nitpicks than bugs, but overall it's really impressed me so far. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that my experience is not shared by everyone.
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blackburn
macrumors 6502a
Yeah it really looks like that the puny 9400m can't keep up with it, but it's kinda weird since many games run fine on it. I've run apple hardware test to make sure that ain't nothing wrong with my mac, so the garbled contents either are a drivers bug or my macbook is dying.
edit: looks like apple still hasn't fixed finder eating cpu cycles when copying files.
edit: looks like apple still hasn't fixed finder eating cpu cycles when copying files.
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bdkennedy1
Suspended
The rumors were wrong. I burned the disk image to a DVD and booted from it and installed a clean copy of Lion.
PBP
macrumors 6502
It works but saving a file gives an error. But it saves the file anyways
blackburn
macrumors 6502a
It seems regrettable that there are so many ppl out there accepting the removal of Front Row.
On the positive side this upgrade is going smoother than the clustermess called Snow Leopard back then in 2009.
I at least never liked it much. Plex or xbmc works fine for me.
But apple want's you to buy apple tv's
Still has audio issues!
The GM still has audio issues!
If I play an AVI file with QuickTime, the video and audio work fine. But if I launch and quit Plex, and then try to play the AVI in QuickTime (VLC and MPlayerX too) again, I get video, but no audio. The only way to solve the issue is to either restart the Mac or put the Mac to sleep and wake it up. Very annoying!
Mac mini 2010 with HDMI cable to TV.
The GM still has audio issues!
If I play an AVI file with QuickTime, the video and audio work fine. But if I launch and quit Plex, and then try to play the AVI in QuickTime (VLC and MPlayerX too) again, I get video, but no audio. The only way to solve the issue is to either restart the Mac or put the Mac to sleep and wake it up. Very annoying!
Mac mini 2010 with HDMI cable to TV.
jive turkey
macrumors 6502
I certainly might be wrong about this, but I thought iSync was just the GUI to make it easy to interact with sync services (I know that is what I once read, but I don't know the accuracy of that statement). If that is the case, just because there is no iSync program wouldn't necessarily mean that there are no sync services. I really don't see Apple putting out an OS that doesn't let people sync their non Apple products.
I always had trouble with iSync anyway, which was the driving force behind me moving to the iPhone. Perhaps that is Steve's plan.
I always had trouble with iSync anyway, which was the driving force behind me moving to the iPhone. Perhaps that is Steve's plan.
No. Go to Library or any folder with 50+ folders in it. Select all and open them all. Notice how much time it takes for all the windows to open and start displaying what's inside.
In Leopard this took approximately 2 seconds. In SL it took around 3-4 seconds.
In Lion it takes around 6-7 seconds. It's very much noticeable. My system isn't indexing and I'm using Radeon 5870.
I should have made it more specific. RAID0 is not supported. Mirror might be. I haven't tried. But RAID0 isn't supported, and Lion installer already warns you if you try to install to RAID0. So it's not about certain systems. The installer doesn't support it.
Well, I do switch between them quickly always, and the delay is very noticeable. It's nothing major though.
When Finder can't resize a window, it's always noticeable. And Finder responds slow as well. I have a lot of response time related issues because I use my mouse extremely fast. When a folder window is opening, if I click somewhere else too fast, Lion registers that click as a resize click, i.e. it acts like I have clicked the window border and tried to resize it, where when I actually clicked, the window wasn't even open yet, and I have clicked on the desktop, not on the space the window was going to open to.
Anyway, I bet all these issues will be fixed in short amount of time.
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Jerome Morrow
macrumors 6502a
Snow Leopard 64 bit vs Lion 64 bit uses about the same amount of resources here. +/- few percent here and there.