My black MB. Can't be upgraded which is why it's on Lion. Doesn't matter if Mavericks is free.
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My black MB. Can't be upgraded which is why it's on Lion. Doesn't matter if Mavericks is free.
For some people, there aren't many reasons to upgrade. I'm on 10.6 and very happy with it, the only feature I'd love is Airplay mirroring but my Mac doesn't support.
And every upgrade introduces risks and/or associated costs. I use Parallels a lot, and many/most OSX upgrades require a paid upgrade; so upgrading to Mavericks certainly wouldn't be free. And I don't want to risk any upgrade to Parallels since it's what I work on and can't afford much downtime if there are issues.
So maybe the problem is - older versions (such as 10.6.8) are too good to justify the risk of leaving!
And every upgrade introduces risks and/or associated costs. I use Parallels a lot, and many/most OSX upgrades require a paid upgrade; so upgrading to Mavericks certainly wouldn't be free. And I don't want to risk any upgrade to Parallels since it's what I work on and can't afford much downtime if there are issues.
So maybe the problem is - older versions (such as 10.6.8) are too good to justify the risk of leaving!
I have an old G4 Mini running Lion that I use as a file server and for the occasional Classic app. I don't browse the web much with it, but TenFourFox (Firefox fork for PPC) serves well enough when I do.
Continue to march on with Snow Leopard.
Don't see the need to upgrade to Maverick.
Except, when they decide to fuglify that like iOS 7's "flatness".
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If it is working fine and meets the user's needs, why spend the money to buy a new one?
Don't see the need to upgrade to Maverick.
Except, when they decide to fuglify that like iOS 7's "flatness".
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How loyal are you if you did not buy a new car since 2005?
If it is working fine and meets the user's needs, why spend the money to buy a new one?
i'll be slightly lowering that number soon (when i stop being lazy).
I've had a few problems on my 2011 MBA. granted it's the lowest model (2mb ram, 64gb ssd), but still.
I get constant random beachball. pops up for a second, then goes away. happens all the time.
I get quite a bit of instability in Mavericks. Finder crashes on me at least once a day.
Other issues i never had before with Lion or ML, such as constantly disconnecting network drives. Extremely slow Network drive read performance (directory listing takes minutes to come up. ML was instant, and windows viewing of the same shares are instant too. But in Mavericks it's always 15-20 seconds.)
plus just other random oddities.
I'll be downgrading back to ML till Mavericks gets it's .2 release.
I've had a few problems on my 2011 MBA. granted it's the lowest model (2mb ram, 64gb ssd), but still.
I get constant random beachball. pops up for a second, then goes away. happens all the time.
I get quite a bit of instability in Mavericks. Finder crashes on me at least once a day.
Other issues i never had before with Lion or ML, such as constantly disconnecting network drives. Extremely slow Network drive read performance (directory listing takes minutes to come up. ML was instant, and windows viewing of the same shares are instant too. But in Mavericks it's always 15-20 seconds.)
plus just other random oddities.
I'll be downgrading back to ML till Mavericks gets it's .2 release.
Simple--the fact that Mavericks eliminates USB synching of iOS devices and forces users to use Wi-Fi--which, unless you're tech-savvy means using iCloud and giving all your contacts, calendar, and other personal info to Apple!
Do you really want to hand over your medical appointments, tax docs, and business spreadsheets to a 3rd party?
Wow I was unaware that it removed USB synching of iOS devices. That is pretty weak considering your wifi could be down, or you could be on the road without wifi. I'm disappointed and less likely to upgrade from Snow Leopard now. I was this close to letting go of my PPC apps, but between the synching issue and the fact that my mid 2010 MBP doesn't support mirroring, I don't think I'll bother. Damn!
Edit: Can you ad-hoc wifi sync with an iOS device?
Mavericks does not remove USB sync of iOS devices.
What he is probably referring to is that the latest version of iTunes removes USB sync of contacts and calendar data. The next version of iTunes is rumored to restore this functionality.
Sitting fine with Late 2006 Macbook
My late 2006 Macbook with 64 bit core 2 duo is still running solid on Lion. Due to the limited Intel GMA graphics card at the time, I cannot upgrade to ML or Mavericks. It kills me to see in the App Store the Free upgrade to Mavericks and when in depsperate moments I click on it....I am rejected with this update is not compatible, how sad.
So many of us on Lion are there still due to the core graphics requirements not allowing us to upgrade.
I do not buy a new MAC mainly due to now having limited funds and also due to the Apple experience of loving my still running smoothly MAC!
My late 2006 Macbook with 64 bit core 2 duo is still running solid on Lion. Due to the limited Intel GMA graphics card at the time, I cannot upgrade to ML or Mavericks. It kills me to see in the App Store the Free upgrade to Mavericks and when in depsperate moments I click on it....I am rejected with this update is not compatible, how sad.
So many of us on Lion are there still due to the core graphics requirements not allowing us to upgrade.
I do not buy a new MAC mainly due to now having limited funds and also due to the Apple experience of loving my still running smoothly MAC!
USB synching still works fine, just not for contacts and calendars...bookmarks...and I think email. You know... iCloud stuff.
Re: edit - Same answer AFAIK.
The potentially good news for you is that 10.9.3 beta has apparently re-enabled this so we may see it again soon.
Wish I could upgrade my Mac Pro 1,1
You're not missing anything. It slowed down my Mac Pro 3,1 by hogging RAM and accessing the HDD constantly, and it made it less stable, so I downgraded after a month. Plus, no new features.
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Mavericks sucks; it's free for a reason. And it still has that "randomly log out without saving anything" bug. Plus it totally screwed up my mom's iMac when she installed it. Thank goodness for Time Machine.
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What about Mountain Lion or Snow Leopard? Lion and Mavericks are probably the worst OSs Apple has made in a long time, and Mountain Lion is actually faster. Snow Leopard is also great, just missing some new features.
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W-what?! This is the first I've heard of this. Sounds very bad and Google-like (the bad side of Google, I mean).
Planned obsolescence is why
My son's white Macbook is frozen at Lion. If Apple would support it for Mavericks -- they don't even support it for Mountain Lion -- I'd jump on it. Only reason we upgraded from Snow Leopard (my favorite release because of Rosetta) was because Nuance Dragon Dictate requires Lion as a minimum and being severely dyslexic, it is a huge time saver for him. Apple dumped ML support to save $ by not writing drivers for this model's video card; easy to install ML on it through other means, but without driver support, forget about it. Maverick's support will never happen. Steve Cook and Jony Ive need new yachts.
If I was made of money, I'd buy him a new mac. But I already bought a new Mavericks-based Mac for my wife and that's that for a while. Need to balance the budget now, kids.
My son's white Macbook is frozen at Lion. If Apple would support it for Mavericks -- they don't even support it for Mountain Lion -- I'd jump on it. Only reason we upgraded from Snow Leopard (my favorite release because of Rosetta) was because Nuance Dragon Dictate requires Lion as a minimum and being severely dyslexic, it is a huge time saver for him. Apple dumped ML support to save $ by not writing drivers for this model's video card; easy to install ML on it through other means, but without driver support, forget about it. Maverick's support will never happen. Steve Cook and Jony Ive need new yachts.
If I was made of money, I'd buy him a new mac. But I already bought a new Mavericks-based Mac for my wife and that's that for a while. Need to balance the budget now, kids.
Are you saying that Snow Leopard was bad or that Mavericks is good? Neither is true.
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I can't believe that many people are on Lion. Most people I know are on Snow Leopard or Mountain Lion. Lion is a complete downgrade from Snow Leopard unless you need it for certain software or a non-Mac GPU, and for those who can upgrade to Mountain Lion, it's like Lion but not in perpetual "beta" mode.
Hmm
Firstly, the figures in the pie chart add up to 102% and wonderment at the the people who stayed on Lion is probably because those people have a Mac Pro 1,1 which, annoyingly, can only go to 10.7.5 and no higher despite being quite capable machines as long as there's plenty of ram.
Firstly, the figures in the pie chart add up to 102% and wonderment at the the people who stayed on Lion is probably because those people have a Mac Pro 1,1 which, annoyingly, can only go to 10.7.5 and no higher despite being quite capable machines as long as there's plenty of ram.
It's mostly about software compatibility...
While it's definitely true we have some older Macs that simply can't handle even mountain lion, there's enough software compatibility issues just between ML and Mavericks that at the company where I work, they tell all employees not to upgrade to Mavericks until they have time to make each critical piece of software work.
One big difference between Microsoft and Apple IMO is that Microsoft (UP TO XP) cared a LOT more about being able to run old software. Of course, since XP, compatibility issues are about the same.
But for me, being technically savvy, I will upgrade the OS as soon as (1) I'm sure it will run efficiently on my hardware, and (2) I've replaced all the incompatible software I rely on.
While it's definitely true we have some older Macs that simply can't handle even mountain lion, there's enough software compatibility issues just between ML and Mavericks that at the company where I work, they tell all employees not to upgrade to Mavericks until they have time to make each critical piece of software work.
One big difference between Microsoft and Apple IMO is that Microsoft (UP TO XP) cared a LOT more about being able to run old software. Of course, since XP, compatibility issues are about the same.
But for me, being technically savvy, I will upgrade the OS as soon as (1) I'm sure it will run efficiently on my hardware, and (2) I've replaced all the incompatible software I rely on.
I really dont like this diagram, at all. It reminds me of Android's statistics...
I agree partially, but don't forget that this covers 14 years of OS X and does not show which machines are being used that CAN be upgraded (even if that upgrade is only for the most recent version). A lot of Android phones simply cannot be upgraded at all because of hardware/software limitations. At least with OS X, the majority of Macs can be upgraded to different versions of OS X. For example, the 2007 iMac (which originally shipped with Tiger) can run Mavericks as well. That's a really long support timeframe for what would normally be considered an obsolete machine.
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The same can be said for a lot of G4 machines that technically could run Leopard if they weren't limited by the 867MHz requirement for the CPU. There is of course a way around that, but many owners of machines that COULD run Leopard simply don't bother upgrading either because they feel it's unnecessary to do so for what they use their machine for, or they worry about the performance factors with running a more recent OS on an older machine that's not technically supported.
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I don't want to update to Mavericks from Mountain Lion because updating to Lion from Snow Leopard was a complete disaster. I don't really trust Apple's updates as much as I used to these days.
I don't want them effin' up my iMac. Simple as that! Mountain Lion is stable at least on my computer.
I don't want them effin' up my iMac. Simple as that! Mountain Lion is stable at least on my computer.
Well I don't know if this will help you out or not, but I updated my wife's iMac from SL directly to Mavericks and there wasn't an issue at all. Everything updated properly and everything that she was using and had set up (including VirtualBox) worked as though nothing had changed.
What good is free when Apple themselves won't allow my Mac to run it? They could send me the OS on a disc for free and I still couldn't use it on my 2008 black MB.
I remember a few years back that there was a news story on this site that said that 25% of iPhone users never synced their iPhones or even upgraded the OS version. I wonder if there are Mac owners who don't know that they can update the OS. I know the last several OSX versions automatically check but do the older versions like Leopard and Snow Leopard check?