Yes Frozzie, you're dead right. How silly of me to not realise that 50MB update is the same as a 4GB OS download
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Yes Frozzie, you're dead right. How silly of me to not realise that 50MB update is the same as a 4GB OS download
Yes Frozzie, you're dead right. How silly of me to not realise that 50MB update is the same as a 4GB OS download
So what do you do when an update is as big as 750MB like with 10.7.3? Do you ask apple for update dvd?
While I don't necessarily agree with the previous poster, it is a fair point to make that Apple does not need to accommodate a small population because it is a company that sells computers and is not responsible for rural lack of internet access.
System Updates, Updating Operating Systems?
Why are we worried about system updates and downloading new versions of OSX - Are we not supposed to run out and buy Apple's latest computer every time a new operating system is released?
Soon, the only way to get the latest version of OSX will be to purchase a new Macintosh.
Why are we worried about system updates and downloading new versions of OSX - Are we not supposed to run out and buy Apple's latest computer every time a new operating system is released?
Soon, the only way to get the latest version of OSX will be to purchase a new Macintosh.
This is one of the biggest FnCk You's Apple has pulled out of their houghty toughty asses in a while.
But it won't be the last.
But it won't be the last.
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So whats everyone getting worked up for on this?
Apple pushes the bar up, I'm sure there were people complaining when they stopped selling Mac OS on floppies, people complained when it went DVD only, they did they same with Lion only on Direct Download/USB Drive. The same is happening with ML that is digital download only and for me thats great, and for a large majority its great.
Apple moves us forward, to quote 'Think Different' they push the human race forward, and why you may think their crazy, the rest of us see genius!
But theres always a way round, visit a friend/family with fast broadband, gives you an excuse to go out and see people rather than sitting like a keyboard warrior in front of your screen moaning about what Apple has done next!
Remember the world moves forward and the rest of world gets dragged kicking and screaming along with it. If it was for the mentality of some Apple would have legacy issues like Microsoft and still be supporting Macs from the year dot.
Apple pushes the bar up, I'm sure there were people complaining when they stopped selling Mac OS on floppies, people complained when it went DVD only, they did they same with Lion only on Direct Download/USB Drive. The same is happening with ML that is digital download only and for me thats great, and for a large majority its great.
Apple moves us forward, to quote 'Think Different' they push the human race forward, and why you may think their crazy, the rest of us see genius!
But theres always a way round, visit a friend/family with fast broadband, gives you an excuse to go out and see people rather than sitting like a keyboard warrior in front of your screen moaning about what Apple has done next!
Remember the world moves forward and the rest of world gets dragged kicking and screaming along with it. If it was for the mentality of some Apple would have legacy issues like Microsoft and still be supporting Macs from the year dot.
Again with this? That's like saying just because nearest gas station is 30 miles away they should put one outside your kitchen window, because if you are out of gas you must pedal 30 miles with a canister.
Not a perfect world, pal.
Our SME has around 12 Macs - not enough to be eligible for the Lion Volume Pack so in order to be legit with licenses we were forced to buy 12 USB sticks.
On top of that, the Mac Store in Europe has no concept of Enterprise accounts and handling a Apple ID / install is just retarded.
I'm going to have it hard to sell this online-only to my management. Microsoft at least provides IT with decent tools to centrally manage workstations (another frustration with Apple) and doesn't mind giving you physical install media which you need to troubleshoot or reinstall.
On top of that, the Mac Store in Europe has no concept of Enterprise accounts and handling a Apple ID / install is just retarded.
I'm going to have it hard to sell this online-only to my management. Microsoft at least provides IT with decent tools to centrally manage workstations (another frustration with Apple) and doesn't mind giving you physical install media which you need to troubleshoot or reinstall.
This.
Especially in environments where Mac support is a bit reluctant.
This policy is hugely unfriendly to small "enclaves" of Mac users at a PC-dominated employer. It goes for every other App Store exclusive. What am I supposed to do if I want 5 copies of an app? Hand out iTunes gift cards and hope some jobsworth from finance doesn't find some reason why that's illegal?
Otherwise, the App Store is terrific for personal use, and the DRM is offset by the reasonableness of the terms, particularly the cover for multiple computers.
No it didn't, unless you're citing an old study (a little hard to determine when you cite "a government study"). A 2010 NTIA study shows that 40% of households don't have broadband. The breakdown of that 40% who don't have broadband was only 1.1% of respondents in urban locations and 11.1% of respondents in rural locations who cited "Not Available" as the reason.
Some of the other reasons are "No computer or computer inadequate" 16.3% / 19.0%, "Don't need or not interested" 38.1% / 37.7%.
Here's a link: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10454133-94.html
Rob
Strange, when I look through the OECD data you cited, I see as of 2010, 68.2% of US households have broadband: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/20/59/39574039.xls
I don't see a breakdown by adult. I think you are citing their breakdown of broadband subscriptions per 100 individuals, which is totally different, since one subscription is often shared: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/21/35/39574709.xls
Also, the OECD is citing government provided numbers.
If you ask me, the saddest part of the OECD is that the US ranks 30th for average advertised download speeds at 14.6 mbit. The top 10 countries are 37 - 85 mbit. Countries 11-20 advertise 23 - 32 mbit.
Rob
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For those in small towns, they don't have high speed internet and certainly not an Apple store. We are talking about places that have less than 10,000 people and in some cases just a few hundred. Sure, they don't matter to a company like Apple because they just don't have enough people to care about, but still an issue for them.
You can NOT eliminate physical media now or even 5 years from now until every place has high speed internet just like electricity. Many people forget this and for those like the original poster this is a SERIOUS issue for them.
What I would do is simply call an official Apple store, explain my situation, tell them I want to buy it with a credit card then have them put it on a USB thumb drive. Of course you would have to pay for the USB thumb drive, Mountain Lion and shipping, but they should be willing to do that for those that really need this.
It sounds like Apple pretty much did this with Lion, and decided, based on experience, that there just isn't enough demand for physical media to make it worthwhile. Apple is a forward thinking company, and the downside to that is that sometimes they judge things to be obsolete sooner than the rest of the market. I was surprised to hear that 2008 gma950/x3100 machines won't run Mountain Lion. Fortunately a lot of Apples user base is also forward thinking.
Also, since OS updates are near annual, unlike the competition, the changes between revisions are smaller, and the need to run the latest and greatest is lessened. That can absorb some of the frustration of users who don't have broadband access.
For the very tiny proportion of users who have no broadband, have no access to publicly accessible wifi, have no friends or family who can burn me a DVD, don't have access to hired Mac service techs, yet they really need the latest and greatest, there will probably be services available that they can ship their Mac to for service.
Rob
I don't understand people like you. Couldn't you use your dedication with something that makes sense, like curing world hunger? I don't see why you'd want to "never" use the MAS. It's convenient as hell. Is there a lot of software on it? Not really. But what's on it is easier to download/install/update than any other distribution system before it. Some people are so peculiar.
Because I don't want to give Apple my credit card number, I don't want to support their attempt at creating a monopoly for software distribution and I don't want to support the ridiculous MAS software guidelines which hinder innovative, creative software.
Windows 8 rocks, I think your ready to move over, what do you say?
No thanks, Windows 8 is a Fisher Price OS as well.
Does anyone notice this?
Apple prices things insanely high, then discontinue it by "justifying" that no one bought it. xserve?
The rumors of discontinuing the Mac Pro are similar. It's been more than a year since it was last updated, it's way more expensive than its competitors, of course no one will buy it!
Apple prices things insanely high, then discontinue it by "justifying" that no one bought it. xserve?
The rumors of discontinuing the Mac Pro are similar. It's been more than a year since it was last updated, it's way more expensive than its competitors, of course no one will buy it!
You haven't got a clue have you. 4GB at a 0.5 mbps? It took me 4 hours on a connection that is normally about 6.5mbps.
Because the implementation is awful. It's one thing to do online distribution and another to have to download again if your machine crashes or you're upgrading multiple macs. And yes, we all know it's possible to work around that, but Apple should have that solved for people who aren't power users.
My guess is that the sales data indicated that there weren't very many in your situation. As broadband availability improves even in rural areas this will become even less of an issue. The better solution is to improve broadband access. That's up to the cable and phone companies.
I'm sorry but its hard to take someone serious when they call the two biggest OS's that support the largest amount of software out there "Fisher Price OS's".
I love all the *******s here that say "just move, or tough ****" when you dont have internet, but then on the tethering threads you say you hit 10 GB and then they are like OMGZ YOU HAXKRS, YOU RIUN IT 4 UZ ALL. We have been fighting Verizon to get high speed for 10 years, including a petition 2 years ago signed by everyone on our road. Guess who still hasnt come up?? Our POWER COMPANY ran COMPLETELY NEW POLES AND LINES just to get more reliability during winter and wind storms. You go up our road and there are now 30FT high poles with the transformers, etc... on them and then a 20ft pole beside it with just a phone line no bigger than a 6 gauge power wire. They wont even come move the damn phone line over to the new poles.
Oh yeah....and Apple Stores dont exist around here. There are only 8 Apple Stores in PA, 3 OF THEM ARE IN PITTSBURGH. King of Prussia, Philly and Ardmore stores are in a 30 mile radius. Then Lancaster and Lehigh are only 60 miles apart and only 60 miles from all the other Philly stores. So if you dont live in Pittsburgh or Philadelphia you are pretty much ****ed.
So for all you asses who think you can just get up and move your house, im going to use 15gb of data this month just for you
Oh yeah....and Apple Stores dont exist around here. There are only 8 Apple Stores in PA, 3 OF THEM ARE IN PITTSBURGH. King of Prussia, Philly and Ardmore stores are in a 30 mile radius. Then Lancaster and Lehigh are only 60 miles apart and only 60 miles from all the other Philly stores. So if you dont live in Pittsburgh or Philadelphia you are pretty much ****ed.
So for all you asses who think you can just get up and move your house, im going to use 15gb of data this month just for you
Obviously nobody prevents you from running professional applications on Windows and Mac OS X, but both Microsoft and even more so Apple seem to spend their time gearing their operating systems towards the consumer market.
Companies and offices that are not connected to the internet at all? Seriously? Well, a lot of the advantages of Mountain Lion are around the area of cloud computing, so you won't really have any need for Mountain Lion.