What lack of MMS? Lack of MMS is an AT&T issue, not an Apple issue. I'm running MMS without jailbreak on my iPhone 3G just fine here in Australia.
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OS X Snow Leopard Retail Disc Contains Build 10A432
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What lack of MMS? Lack of MMS is an AT&T issue, not an Apple issue. I'm running MMS without jailbreak on my iPhone 3G just fine here in Australia.
Like what? All aplication can still run 64-bit. Maybe you are referring to how 64bit kernel won't work with any 3rd party consumer peripherals that only have 32 bit drivers. I'm thinking things like my HP printer, X-Fi or WD turboDrivers just to name a few reasons I'll be happy to use 32-bit kernel.
Giving the choice, I'll run 32-bits for just now too. Indeed, I am running 32-bit on my 15" MBP and 24" iMac, which can run 64-bit. However, in the near future I may switch to using the 64-bit kernel, and I wonder why I don't even have the option on the 13" uni-MB, when there is no valid hardware limitation that I can see.
Because the 13" MacBook doesn't need 64bit kernel and never will? Or at least during the life of the currently shipping model.
i'm finding it kind of funny that this is supposed to be the polished / faster update to leopard but has all these new glitches and issues
Apple itself seems to have all sorts of glitches these days. Both in designing and delivering.
Dude, calm down. Wow, the two posts above yours did a much more eloquent job of saying the same thing as you- and they didn't get their panties in a bunch. I think I made a legitimate mistake because I got confused the up-to-date offer AND the fact that they are selling Leopard along with Snow Leopard in an upgrade kit. There is a lot of confusion about this "upgrade" I'm sorry if I added to it. And yeah, I read a lot... I'm terribly sorry that I don't read enough for your standards. I've been more focused on the 64bit options than how to upgrade without Leopard. Take a chill pill, go out for a walk, and definitely try to give up coffee. It's making you twitchy.
So the table has been set! Version 10.7 will be nicknamed Cougar and feature a photo of Demi Moore on the box.
Yuck! Don't want to know what bugs that will have...
Apple itself seems to have all sorts of glitches these days. Both in designing and delivering.
People have a lot to complain about these days. Both in expectations and understanding the product.
In relation to the macbook unibody and booting in 64 bit mode, post #284 on the previous page answers most of our problems (should have read it before posting above). You can still use 64bit apps without booting in 64bit mode. Only advantage of booting in 64bit mode is to access more than 4gb of ram. The unibody macbook does not officially support anymore than 4gb of ram, therefore there is not benefit or need for it to support booting in 64bit mode.
My divX Webplayer doesn't work anymore with safari and snow leopard. No problems in Firefox. Strange...
Also my 2408WFP TFT seems to take advantage of SN. The colors aren't as much saturated as in leopard (does leopard support the wide gammut monitors?).
People like him and I get angry because there are people who deliberately post lies simply to rile up a response and cause a flame war. I've just received an 'infraction notice' because some flamebaiter layer took exception to me telling him to 'shut up'.
There is a definite fine line between honest ignorance due to a question being asked the first time in the whole thread - and those who ask the same questions over and over and over and over again or make the same statement over and over and over and over again even after they have been politely corrected numerous times.
This forum isn't an institution for people to stand on their mound with a mega phone to do a one way speech; this is a forum, a place where dialogue occurs - and key to dialogue is when BOTH sides listen and BOTH sides take on board any corrections. Some people here need to invest deeply into some humility, suck up the bottom lip and accept when they're wrong and the other person is correct.
Speed, a pure 64-bit system is faster than a 32-bit kernel interacting with 64-bit apps. Also, you say yourself that the 13" uMB doesn't officially support more than 4GB, but we all know it actually will work with more, so that's another valid reason for people wanting to do it.
In any event, the whole question of why people want 64-bit is not the issue. The question is why is the 13" MBP able to do it and the 13" uni-MB not able to do it, when both machines use exactly the same hardware?
Forget about 64bit in Snow Leopard
Thanks for lying to me apple...agan!
It seems that if you have a 32bit EFI ROM then you won't be running in 64bit mode at all!
YEP, Apple says that snow elopard is 64bit top to bottom yet they so nicely forgot to say "if you ahve a 32bit efi then you won't be running in 64bit"
Most of us have a 32bit efi rom running on our macs
Don't believe me? check system profiler and find 64bit kernel extensions.
it'll say No or Yes. If it says No then you are not running in 64bit mode.
My cpu in this white intel mac is a dual core 2 2.16ghz. This is a 64bit cpu yet i have a32bit efi rom installed on here.
I am so pissed off right now. Why are Apple doing this? probably so that they can sell newer macs and claim that these will run faster.
Because they have 64bit cpus. Just like other macs ifnact Apple.
**** you Apple. I have had enough of being lied too.
I hope they get sued over this, really i do.
Thanks for lying to me apple...agan!
It seems that if you have a 32bit EFI ROM then you won't be running in 64bit mode at all!
YEP, Apple says that snow elopard is 64bit top to bottom yet they so nicely forgot to say "if you ahve a 32bit efi then you won't be running in 64bit"
Most of us have a 32bit efi rom running on our macs
Don't believe me? check system profiler and find 64bit kernel extensions.
it'll say No or Yes. If it says No then you are not running in 64bit mode.
My cpu in this white intel mac is a dual core 2 2.16ghz. This is a 64bit cpu yet i have a32bit efi rom installed on here.
I am so pissed off right now. Why are Apple doing this? probably so that they can sell newer macs and claim that these will run faster.
Because they have 64bit cpus. Just like other macs ifnact Apple.
**** you Apple. I have had enough of being lied too.
I hope they get sued over this, really i do.
Back to the original point of someone getting their SL early: This happens every single year... IMO its Apple deliberately sending out a handful early to get a buzz going. Frankly, it's not a bad idea (it works!)
Check out a Tiger "accidental early arrival" article from 2005:
https://www.macrumors.com/2005/04/28/mac-os-x-tiger-arriving/
Check out a Tiger "accidental early arrival" article from 2005:
https://www.macrumors.com/2005/04/28/mac-os-x-tiger-arriving/
What proof do you have - apart from 'benchmarks'? I'm running 10A432 all the system applications are 64bit and they're faster than when I was running Leopard. Will they be faster with a 64bit kernel? I've run my iMac with the 64bit kernel and 32bit applications are slower, 64bit applications there is no noticeable speed improvement.
Because Apple don't want clueless consumers loading into 64bit only to find that none of their hardware work. There is a reason for the decisions they make, the same reasons for why Microsoft make the decisions they do.
I suggest you have a read of that post in a years time; you sound like someone who wants something but don't know why but goddamit, you want it none the less.
Yes, like I said, I've given up on the ATI X1900XT and like you said there are upgrade options for me... the ATI Radeon HD 4870 apparently works fine in an original macpro so I have an upgrade option, at a cost of £250, although I think it is supported in OpenCL
But, what about the 32bit EFI? to have any hope of running a fully 64bit system I thought I needed a 64bit EFI?
Not to sidetrack the thread, but any pointers to where this has been confirmed? If so I am ordering one (at least) right now.
exactly!!!
While half the posts here have something to to with 64 bit..... Its the least important part of SL. Forget 64 bit ... more memory wwwweeeee.... Open-CL and Grand Central are the real powerhouse features.
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what installation options are available for this disc? Can I choose to install over Leopard, leaving my settings/apps intact, or is it a forced clean install?
How easy is it to move apps over? as many of them are just copied to the apps folder, can you just drag them onto a HDD to back up, then drag them back when you're done?
How easy is it to move apps over? as many of them are just copied to the apps folder, can you just drag them onto a HDD to back up, then drag them back when you're done?
sorry i just opened this thread and read this and i didn't feel like searching this 400 post thread so can you post me to a link or something that explains this? I just as you don't understand why the U-MB wont run SL