Are you certain? In Activity Monitor does the kernel process (kernel_task, PID 0) show a "Kind" of Intel (64-bit)?
What is the result if you run "uname -a" in a terminal window?
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OS X Snow Leopard Retail Disc Contains Build 10A432
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Are you certain? In Activity Monitor does the kernel process (kernel_task, PID 0) show a "Kind" of Intel (64-bit)?
What is the result if you run "uname -a" in a terminal window?
Has anybody (other than Pedro) had their SL order status on their apple store account page changed from not yet shipped to shipped? Mine now says ships by 28 August, and I pre ordered through the uptodate program 1 month ago.
Yep, surprising the story doesn't note that.
I hope all the clowns insisting that it required 10.5 installed enjoy their steaming plate of crow...
Okay, can we at least get a confirmation whether one can fresh install SL on an empty hard-drive (without Leopard installed)? I mean come on, this is the biggest question right now. Who cares about the packaging/pictures.
Sure, just click on the translation. It's confirmed. Meaning the disk is likely the exact same as the one in the "tiger" box set.
How is that a problem? Booting into 64 bit KERNEL means you can only use 64 bit drivers, and most people probably aren't ready for that. Makes perfect sense for now.
You'd think they'd learn after they were wrong on the exact same point with 10.5, 10.4 etc. But you know they'll be yapping about it again when it's time for 10.7.
And that goes double for those insisting it could only "upgrade" based on ZERO facts, just their own wild guess.
What about Cheetah? Actually, Apple should have used that name instead of Snow Leopard because they could have marketed it as The Cat That Runs Faster. Instead, they went with Snow Leopard which probably should have been marketed as Snow Job.
Cheetah was the code name for 10.0.
I know what's new. It's just they are not present in the GM build. In fact, I can't get the new "smart services" feature to appear anywhere in the OS. Seems weird.
You would think Apple would consider this a show stopper since it's one of the few touted features. Guess not.
"The Services menu in Mac OS X lets you use features of one application while working in another. In Snow Leopard, services are more simplified, streamlined, and helpful. The Services menu is contextual, so it shows just the services appropriate for the application youre using or content youre viewing rather than all available services. You can access services with a right click of your mouse or Control-click of your trackpad. You can configure the menu to show only the services you want, and you can even create your own services using Automator."
You can turn some of the services on by using "keyboard shortcuts" within the keyboard preference pane (even though the contextual menu is not really a keyboard shortcut), like "Add to iTunes as a Spoken Track." However, they don't have icons beside them, and it's not very elegant.
Apple clearly has some work to do on contextual services. The average Mac user is never going to find them. It's not even mentioned in the built-in help.
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Come on dude! Dump BT they are a rip off and move over into the light!
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Nope, we've already seen that, and it's totally different and says UP TO DATE in giant letters on the disk.
For anyone who wants 64 bit mode stop complaining and just type this into terminal and you're set
Or download this sys preference
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/32252/32--or-64-bit-kernel-startup-mode-selector
Or download this sys preference
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/32252/32--or-64-bit-kernel-startup-mode-selector
Apparently some consumer 32-bit drivers didn't follow the rules for PAE - and since a 64-bit version of the client OS existed it wasn't critical.
OK, I see where you are, and that makes sense.
We have some HP ProLiant Xeons with 256 GiB and 512 GiB of RAM for some applications that need to have their databases entirely cached in RAM.
What threw me was the phrase "more than 32 GiB", since no Apple supports more than 32 GiB.
What? More expensive than Japan? Russia? France? Sweden? I think not. Not even close to the second most expensive.
As for 10A432, backed up a Macbook and installed it over Leopard. It upgraded it. No archive and install. No other option available except erasing the volume in Disk Utility and installing cleanly. On the plus side, it analysed all the apps and moved the only incompatible one I had (SRS Wow) to a dump folder.
Japan was the most expensive followed by the UK then followed by United States - I have to admit though, those statistics were from around 7 years ago. Take this for example; a person can easily live on NZ$500 per week in New Zealand, could you imagine surviving on £210 per week?
I always get the feeling of bad juju when I upgrade; it is as though Murphey, patron saint of bad luck is watching over to put a spell of bad luck on the installation.
I understand that, but 64bit is being plastered all over Apples webpage and SL sales material.
You think MS would get away with this? People would be losing their minds if they bought the 64bit version of Win7 and it booted in 32bit to protect users
My Mac and Snow Leopard..?
Hey guys,
I really want to know what advantages my mac will have with snow leopard.
It's an early 2008 white MacBook 2.0Ghz dual core, w/ 4GB RAM, and a built in graphics card (GMA i think?)
Can i run 64bit? What advantages will it give me?
Is there barely ANYTHING i can take advantage of? I've already preordered it cause i like to keep Up to date. But it would be nice to know what i could do w/ my Mac thats different, apart from dock expose.
Thanks
-Sam
Hey guys,
I really want to know what advantages my mac will have with snow leopard.
It's an early 2008 white MacBook 2.0Ghz dual core, w/ 4GB RAM, and a built in graphics card (GMA i think?)
Can i run 64bit? What advantages will it give me?
Is there barely ANYTHING i can take advantage of? I've already preordered it cause i like to keep Up to date. But it would be nice to know what i could do w/ my Mac thats different, apart from dock expose.
Thanks
-Sam
The same as everyone else. A few updated programs, and faster. And a few new features.
Apples and oranges. The only thing not 64bit is the kernel; you can run 64bit applications, everything above it is 64bit - the only thing missing is the 64bit kernel. Oh, and don't compare it to Windows - the two are completely different operating systems tackling the 64bit migration from different directions.
I agree 100%, people here would be like OMG!! MS ARE LIARS !!! (and blablabla) but apple does it and like "Yeah they do it coz its cool"
And BTW when vista or xp x64 came out, it was 64 all the way ...
Far to forgiving
will snow leopard decrease the overall data size taken by leopard on the disk? or do i need to do a clean install on empty disk to have a smaller data usage by system?
Yes, it will run 64bit apps. For all the goodies in this update just checkout Apple's SL page. It's fairly comprehensive, and not just a "pretty" update. In fact, Apple didn't really do much at all as far as interface cleanup goes. SL is a great update, especially for $29. As always though your hardware is going to dictate what your s/w can do.
Not booting into a 64-bit kernel makes perfect sense for the time being as the only reason to boot in 64-bit is so that you could use more than 32GB of RAM, and I don't know anyone with that much RAM in their system.
Applications will still run in 64-bit regardless of the kernel, so there's no reason to boot into 64-bit until it becomes necessary (i.e. when the average Mac ships with more than 32GB of RAM).
This is a non-issue for 99% of people. And the server edition boots into 64-bit because it'll be necessary. The option of a 64-bit kernel just makes the OS future proof. It's there for when it's needed in the future, but there'll be next to no advantages in booting into 64-bit for the time being.
Applications will still run in 64-bit regardless of the kernel, so there's no reason to boot into 64-bit until it becomes necessary (i.e. when the average Mac ships with more than 32GB of RAM).
This is a non-issue for 99% of people. And the server edition boots into 64-bit because it'll be necessary. The option of a 64-bit kernel just makes the OS future proof. It's there for when it's needed in the future, but there'll be next to no advantages in booting into 64-bit for the time being.
Okay, can we at least get a confirmation whether one can fresh install SL on an empty hard-drive (without Leopard installed)? I mean come on, this is the biggest question right now. Who cares about the packaging/pictures.
Yes I've tried it and it works
I think you are also confusing expensive country to live in with expensive country to do business in. The former may have been true due to rip-off Britain, where we pay through the nose to subsidise other countries. However, labour laws and regulations in the UK are fairly relaxed and streamlined compared with quite a number of other countries, which contributes to a decreased cost of business here. Even with our relatively high cost of living, the UK has always attracted a high amount of foreign business investment precisely because it is not expensive to do business here.
Unemployment benefit is around £60 pw in the UK. A lot of people have to manage
The smart money is always on doing a clean install with any major OS update. It just ensures you get all of the previous OS bits off your machine. Next best thing is to do an "archive & install" it removes the old OS, archives it, and installs the new one. When you boot up SL and all is good you can delete the archive. This method is not as "clean" as a "clean" install but it does avoid having to reinstall all your apps.