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What's apple's obsession with Cats?

Apples Next OS : Sphynx?

I hope not, I wish they get off the whole Cat deal & think of something better up.

It's not really an obsession. It started off as the codename for Mac OS X 10.1 and developed into a marketing scheme after Jobs revealed 10.2 Jaguar (or jagwire as he pronounced it). They've stuck with it ever since as a differentiator.

Would you prefer ME (for Millennium Edition), XP (for eXPerience), Longhorn or Vista?

Out of the cat trademarks left, Apple has yet to use Lynx and Cougar. However, both trademarks have lapsed (although I would imagine you could get them back easily enough). There's also Lion, which I don't believe is trademarked.

Let's just hope 10.7 is feature packed at not "Clouded Leopard."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_cat

Funny Mac OS X codename keynote moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM-1y9ouqec#t=01m43s
 
It's not really an obsession. It started off as the codename for Mac OS X 10.1 and developed into a marketing scheme after Jobs revealed 10.2 Jaguar (or jagwire as he pronounced it). They've stuck with it ever since as a differentiator.

Would you prefer ME (for Millennium Edition), XP (for eXPerience) or Vista?

Out of the cat trademarks left, Apple has yet to use Lynx and Cougar. However, both trademarks have lapsed (although I would imagine you could get them back easily enough). There's also Lion left.

Let's just hope 10.7 is feature packed at not "Clouded Leopard."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_cat
Someone must have a thing for German armored vehicles up at Apple.
 

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I am one the thousand ones that downloaded the "GM 10A432" and honestly I feel quite disappointed that it turned out to be the real GM version.

Sure the system is really fast, there is no denying but it has some small glitches that you wonder how come that Apple let them slip through.

For instance if you set the stack folder "Applications" to "View content as Grid" and open that stacker folder you are going to see that the "Open in Finder" icon has no anti-aliasing at all, but the same does not happen on other stackers like Documents or Downloads.

It is not a big deal but it is kind of annoying.

Other glitch related to stackers is that when you click a folder inside of a stacker view sometimes that folder open immediately and sometimes it "blinks" for a moment then it opens.

Other very annoying glitch is the iDisk icon on the menu bar. Every time you login the icon shows up asking for you to login on mobile me even though you have not created an account. The only way to stop it from happening is to manually remove the icon out of the menu bar.

Let's not forget the "empty" button on the trash. It looks weird, almost like it has not been completed or it is out of shape if you know what I mean.

Exposé feels weird. It does not work right compared to Leopard Exposé.

I could go on and say a lot of things that I feel that does not work right, but that is my opinion.

Am I going to buy Snow Leopard on Friday? Hell yeah. But I really hope a 10.6.1 comes right after the OS release just to correct those small glitches.

One thing I can tell you guys, rest assured that the OS is really fast and so far I haven't had any crash whatsoever. It is rock solid!

Cheers.
 
Looking forward to Friday :)
I just hope in the future when apple set the 64bit kernel to boot as default they think of all of us with 64bit machines but 32bit EFIs (2006 macpro in my case) and give us a 64bit EFI update so we can run the new kernel...
Never going to happen. I'm in the same boat but have accepted that my Mac Pro will never have the 64-bit EFI or the ability to boot the kernel in 64-bit mode. Anyway, for the time being it will probably be a small loss as most will probably need to run the 32-bit kernel until third-parties update their kexts to run in 64-bit mode.

The bigger issue is video card support. I doubt that my first generation, Intel Mac Pro will ever have the ability to use a GPU that offers hardware support for H264 decode or OpenCL and that's a real bummer.
 
SL should better deliver in some way with 64 bit. I feel that I been sold on it since the G5 and it ain't supported. For $29 I don't expect much.
 
Here's my question regarding services: On this page, http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/ it's claiming that you can right click in any app and a services menu will pop up. However, I don't get that with 10A432. I've tried several apps, TextEdit, Safari, Mail, etc and nothing showed up. However, going to the application menu and select Services. Am I missing something?
 

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This isn't windows where 64-bit was needed to address memory over 3.5 gigs.

Regular leopard already can address more than 3.5 gigs of memory

64-bit really only makes a difference on OSX SL when you do some major number crunching and addressing memory over 32 gigs.

For 99.9% of the stuff a consumer does with Leopard or Snow Leopard, they will not even notice the difference since 64-bit apps run just fine (no emulation). The OSX system design is somewhat better implemented than windows, so it really doesn't matter if the kernel is 64-bit, 64-bit apps can still run and they can access all the memory they need (I think the limit is exabytes?).

SL is not the final goal in apples transition to 64bit computing. Leopard started the ball rolling with 64 bit memory addressing, now comes SL with a big step forward and lays the ground work ready for a full 64bit implementation. However SL is still a transitional stage with a 32bit kernel etc... I'm looking forward to all the true 64bit apps that come packaged with SL but I am also a geek... I'd like to know if apple has a place for my macpro in the final stage of their 64bit transition or wether I am gonna have to replace my hardware which seems a shame as it has a 64bit processor, just not a 64bit EFI... surely they can fix that with an EFI upgrade? Or perhaps more accurate to ask will they want to?
 
Never going to happen. I'm in the same boat but have accepted that my Mac Pro will never have the 64-bit EFI or the ability to boot the kernel in 64-bit mode. Anyway, for the time being it will probably be a small loss as most will probably need to run the 32-bit kernel until third-parties update their kexts to run in 64-bit mode.

The bigger issue is video card support. I doubt that my first generation, Intel Mac Pro will ever have the ability to use a GPU that offers hardware support for H264 decode or OpenCL and that's a real bummer.

Yeah i'm guessing the same about the EFI :(

I take your point about the kexts... I guess It'll be a while before apple are confident about defaulting to a 64bit kernel anyway.

I feel your pain with graphics card... I've got the ATI X1900XT and I've resigned myself to the fact that will never be used by OpenCL or used for video decoding... Seems such a shame though... All that power... :(

Anyway, I don't want to sound too negative.... Snow Leopard sounds a good leap forward so roll on Friday... :)
 
What did you expect for 29 bucks? :D

Well the package doesn't do jack for the computer other then sit there an look like a piece of paper with writing on it.

What do you do with the boxsets anyways?

Do you display them in your room or you just wish they fork over more trees to make a nice looking box. Our world is coming to an end sorry but it's true we need to use less as possible and I hate to sound like a dirty hippie even though I am not a hippie. Just being realist.
 
Old Timers... (not really)

FAKE. I want to see screenshots and screen-capped video, and even then I won't believe it.

:)

Those of us who have been around since 4K78 I think knew 10A432 would be the GM. Probably the most solid point-zero release to date (on the flip-side probably the least improved feature-wise).

And I would've been shocked if the upgrade version was only compatible with Leopard loaded Macs.

Newbies.... (wait, am I still classified as a MR newbie? :p)
 
Yeah i'm guessing the same about the EFI :(

I feel your pain with graphics card... I've got the ATI X1900XT and I've resigned myself to the fact that will never be used by OpenCL or used for video decoding... Seems such a shame though... All that power... :(

My EFI is 64bit only had to adjust some plist to enable 64bit Kernel.
 
I have 10a432 so... it's retail... or they changed something minor??

If they had changed somethign then it would have been rebuilt and it would have a different build number.

so Quicktime X really does have no preferences to set?

Its not meant to be; it is a stripped down player/recorder - anything more complex you can use one of the many third party applications which utilise the QuickTime framework.

Even though this is truly the GM, I still want to buy the OS!

Of course, I am going to as well; I have the 10A432 on DL DVD but I'll still purchase the box set.

I agree. There was a post on Gizmodo the other day complaining about the packaging, but previous versions of OS 10 were simple X's. This is cool looking.

Quite honestly - those complaining are idiots. Snow Leopard bring the box inline with the rest of their product line when compared to iWork and iLife.

Ah oh, weren't people experiencing problems with this build?

No default 64bit boot comes to mind

People whining about the lack of 64bit boot and kernel were idiots - they ignored all the advice and continued to lie through their teeth believing that Steve will spontaneously pull a 64bit kernel out of his ass. I honestly wish people realised the limits of their knowledge instead of assuming that they are smarter than developers at Apple.

What is even worse is when people here spend time explaining the situation, idiots then go onto other threads and spew their ignorance.

I sure hope all of the people who walked around spewing "10A432 isn't the GM" like they were some type of expert feel incredibly stupid and **** from now on.

For me, I was 95% sure it was 10A432 - I guess the last 5% was hopeing that maybe a couple of the bugs I've had trouble with would have been fixed. Oh well, 10.6.1 will probably be out soon.

Two reasons:

1) Point of diminishing returns -- sometimes better just to get on with the program and move towards maintenance mode
2) September is already jam-packed with announcements?

Makes sense regarding point (2) - I'm sure Apple doesn't want the Snow Leopard release to over shadow the media event in September 7 or the media even over shadow Snow Leopards launch.

He DID a fresh install with the upgrade disk...
http://twitter.com/pedro10

I guess they're assuming end users will 'do the right thing' with the boxed set being so compelling that they'll go for it (considering that the iLife included with Tiger restoration cds would be too old and possibly won't run on Snow Leopard).

No special effects on the box?

The DVD is in a clear plastic sleeve?

This has to be a joke from Apple, what slapdash and cheap packaging. :mad:

Who gives a toss - its a damn CD box; build a bridge and get over it. My god, I swear people here are so damn shallow.

YES this. Why just a mere few hours ago they were swearing up and down 10A432 wasn't GM... haha

I think some of the same people swore you needed the "full box set" to upgrade from 10.4, but that isn't so either... just as I said, there is ONE version of 10.6. ONE. you get the same thing in the $29 and the same thing in the box set. Both will install on a 100% bare machine.

Surprise... 10A432 could apparently install with NO other OS present, this "GM" disk is 100% the same. Hopefully now we can put all that to rest.

As far as packaging I think they are just toning it down a bit with SL. They posted the GM days/week ago without second thought, that leaked easily... they were sloppy letting out info and boxes and drop-in discs too. It's just not some huge "month-long" countdown, fanfare, party-worthy OS for Apple.

As for me, its FAST as all heck and will be really nice in a few updates, but I am ready for the bitching in a few days about "is this IT?" "What's new?!?" etc, etc, from all the newbs. It'll still be a fun un-boxing and install for me! Gardens Mall here I come!!

Maybe they realised it is rather stupid having to create multiple versions - I guess commonsense has won out in the end :)

I really don't get why people doubted it was the GM. It was very obvious this was the GM and what's up with people reporting bugs. Still have to find the first bug. I think most people reporting bugs are not very tech savy. Oh yes me too experienced some irregularities but using your brain could fix all those bugs. In my case turning of techtool pro fixed all my "bugs"

Most of the people reporting bugs are running third party crapware or did upgrades. As soon as a person mentions, "and I upgraded", everything from that moment forward I ignore. They created their own problems for which I have no sympathy for.

Well, it still just seems like a possible bag of hurt for those now rushing to torrent the thing just to get it early. Can't the build number be manipulated? And couldn't someone have embedded it with a virus or something like that iwork or ilife thing a while back? I dunno.

Don't download off dodgy trackers; guess where these trojans were distributed by? torrents originally stated on the pirate bay. If you're stupid enough to download torrents off pirate bay, mininova or some other public tracker, you deserve all the hardship and pain that comes with the territory.

I belong to several closed, private torrent trackers and there has never been an out break of trojans or virus's simply because if a person does do it, they're booted out and all their torrents are deleted. To rely on public trackers, you're basically walking around with a target on your chest.

Noo.. They didn't fix my bluetooth bug =[

Have you applied the Bluetooth firmware updates provided?

Can anyone confirm or deny that Quicktime X will play MPEG2 video and audio WITHOUT the need for Apple's extra-cost MPEG2 codec? Thanks!

Nope - why would you want to use it anyway? get a copy of VLC and it does all what is required.

Come friday, there'll be loads of complaints about how this is a horrible upgrade even at 29 bucks. Just watch.

Of course, but those who do it are the same idiots who had problems with 10.5 because they had crap like 'Unsanity Application Enhancer' installed.

I am one the thousand ones that downloaded the "GM 10A432" and honestly I feel quite disappointed that it turned out to be the real GM version.

Sure the system is really fast, there is no denying but it has some small glitches that you wonder how come that Apple let them slip through.

For instance if you set the stack folder "Applications" to "View content as Grid" and open that stacker folder you are going to see that the "Open in Finder" icon has no anti-aliasing at all, but the same does not happen on other stackers like Documents or Downloads.

It is not a big deal but it is kind of annoying.

Other glitch related to stackers is that when you click a folder inside of a stacker view sometimes that folder open immediately and sometimes it "blinks" for a moment then it opens.

Other very annoying glitch is the iDisk icon on the menu bar. Every time you login the icon shows up asking for you to login on mobile me even though you have not created an account. The only way to stop it from happening is to manually remove the icon out of the menu bar.

Let's not forget the "empty" button on the trash. It looks weird, almost like it has not been completed or it is out of shape if you know what I mean.

Exposé feels weird. It does not work right compared to Leopard Exposé.

I could go on and say a lot of things that I feel that does not work right, but that is my opinion.

Am I going to buy Snow Leopard on Friday? Hell yeah. But I really hope a 10.6.1 comes right after the OS release just to correct those small glitches.

One thing I can tell you guys, rest assured that the OS is really fast and so far I haven't had any crash whatsoever. It is rock solid!

Cheers.

Did you do a clean install - because none of those issues appear on either my iMac or MacBook installation.
 
May?!

Well the package doesn't do jack for the computer other then sit there an look like a piece of paper with writing on it.

What do you do with the boxsets anyways?

Do you display them in your room or you just wish they fork over more trees to make a nice looking box. Our world is coming to an end sorry but it's true we need to use less as possible and I hate to sound like a dirty hippie even though I am not a hippie. Just being realist.

More importantly, why does the barcode area of the packaging say MAY? And it was assembled in Ireland? What else of Apple's has been assembled in Ireland?

This stuff has been around for a while apparently, which would make me wonder if the literature inside has also been around that long. Can we match the May timeframe with whatever developer build's look and features with the pictures in the pamphlet.

Kinda makes me think they were gearing up for an earlier than previously promised release, should they have been able to move the OS to GM version sooner than planned.

I'm no developer, but I was also wondering how difficult it would be to add a Cocoa touch layer over the Cocoa layers developed for SL. The new OSX page at Apple's website clouts the Cocoa development on so many aspects of SL. Just a curious observation.
 
Did you do a clean install - because none of those issues appear on either my iMac or MacBook installation.


Yes I did. Clean install.

Let's just hope that when Friday comes and I install the "box" version all theses issues won't appear anymore, or at least some of them.
 
Yes I did. Clean install.

Let's just hope that when Friday comes and I install the "box" version all theses issues won't appear anymore, or at least some of them.

What third party applications do you have installed? I've tried to replicate what you stated in your post and it doesn't appear. I have a feeling that the issue is relating to your video drivers rather than the code relating to the dock/finder itself.
 
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