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Jynto

macrumors 6502
Jan 16, 2012
382
119
Nottingham, UK
Wow, at least make it more believable. Pay $300 to unlock browser? Ok, why don't you at least write something along the lines

"There was a new law that passed that allows settlement of these fines at $300. You may pay the $300 settlement fine now or legal action may pursue against you. You will have the right to defend your case in court. blah blah"

At least make the $300 believable. Who falls for this crap, seriously.

Shh, don't give them ideas.
 

Dalton63841

macrumors 65816
Nov 27, 2010
1,449
8
SEMO, USA
I'm not comparing the environment I'm just telling you that I've worked with hundred of Windows computer, responding to you saying that I haven't. None the less, if a student came across it, they would have told me. But of course students are not going to be looking for porn in the school, compared to if they're at a regular job with their own computer.

I see. Actually I never said you haven't worked with hundreds of Windows computers. You very well may have. I've personally never seen this Mac thing or the Windows Trojan on any computer I own.

To note about students not searching for porn in the computer lab... when I was in high school I knew plenty of people to troll for porn in the computer lab. They made it a game to see what sites they could get past the locks that the school had in place.
 

rougeExciter

macrumors newbie
Aug 27, 2012
18
0
Exactly. Some of those phishing attempts and ransomware pages can be very convincing. Especially if you don't take the time to read it carefully and spot the obvious giveaways, even if you do know enough to know it's fake.

To be serious for a moment, I absolutely agree. It's not about stupidity, it's about access to information. There are certainly cues that this is fake, but if you didn't know this could be done with some relatively simple Javascript... it already becomes more plausible. It says my computer is locked, and it seems to be.
 

keysofanxiety

macrumors G3
Nov 23, 2011
9,539
25,302
I've never heard of similar marware on Windows. It's just funny how MacRumors says that because it's sounds so much like an emotionally dependent fanboy attempt of trying to deflect.

:confused: I get a lot of calls a day regarding ransomware viruses. Not just easy ones, either; not a case of logging in through Safe Mode and running MalwareBytes. They're not in %temp%, or %AppData%, in msconfig or startup folder. I'm talking ransomware that hooks itself on explorer.exe registry entries, in the depths of HKLM and HKCU. It's damn clever, but near enough bricks the computer. Boot into Safe Mode? It restarts the computer. Only way to do it is to boot into Safe Mode with Command Prompt (when it doesn't load up the explorer shell), and tell a person on the phone the exact registry keys to edit in order to temporarily disable the virus ... then reboot, we log in, and spend the next 4 hours cleaning up more viruses.

Also I'm inundated with calls when Security Centre is disabled, as are Windows Firewall and Windows Updates. No, not just 'disabled' as in 'restart it in services.msc', I mean malware deleted the registry entries (common theme?) so we have to readd them, and then change the folder permissions in a certain registry key to add MpsSvc and give full permission to that, then you can see it in services.msc and re-enable it …

It's a PITA. It really is. Malware, spyware, adware, bloatware -- whatever you want to call it -- is a huge problem on Windows. People like you who are so willingly ignorant, who say things like: "Oh, I've never had a BSOD/virus infection/inexplicable Windows fail in xx years of using Windows computers" -- well, I call shenanigans. I really, really do.

If you think Windows is easy to use and doesn't have problems as long as you 'know what you're doing', you don't know anything more than the basics. If you think it's an easy OS to use, you haven't used enough of its features. And certainly, if you haven't heard of similar malware on Windows, then you're either a poor troll or you really do know nothing, Jon Snow.

And as an aside, I've always found that Apple-haters are far more aggressive and arrogant than the Apple lovers. It's a shame you've done little to disprove that.

/rant
 

imageWIS

macrumors 65816
Mar 17, 2009
1,281
822
NYC
People who fall for this also like sending money to Nigerian princes who contacted them via email.
 

inlovewithi

macrumors 6502a
Sep 23, 2009
615
0
So. You are someone who is so into communication. Do you think that it might behove you to actually be an effective communicator?

If I were to attack this news story, I would suggest that it's not really very interesting. No-one here was critical of Windows, or blamed Windows in anyway. The report stated the fact that this kind of attack has been attempted on Windows platforms before.

All in all I can only conclude you really want a Mac, but can't afford one.

Communication is not so much about me talking and somebody listen, but rather about how people interpret and how they react to things. Confirmation bias, that's one the most fascinating phenomenon that I think everybody should be aware of because it probably causes most of the problems in the world.

As far as you, I find it so interesting how in trying to put me down you say that I want a Mac, but can't afford it. It kind of says a lot about you. It sounds like impressing people is really important to you, and because of the value you place on the brand because it's expensive, you think it impresses others.
 

mrgraff

macrumors 65816
Apr 18, 2010
1,089
837
Albuquerque
But of course students are not going to be looking for porn in the school, compared to if they're at a regular job with their own computer.

You didn't work in the labs long enough then. I've worked in Higher Education IT for 15 years now, and believe me I've seen it all. We've got really good blockers and filters in place now, but we used to have students looking up porn, employees caught viewing porn, a few child-porn incidents, and one student even hid an arm under a jacket and tried to ahem "enjoy" his experience in the lab.

I still can't believe that someone would risk expulsion or termination or career suicide over a few pictures and video, but some people simply can't wait until they get home. Sad really.
 

rougeExciter

macrumors newbie
Aug 27, 2012
18
0
Communication is not so much about me talking and somebody listen, but rather about how people interpret and how they react to things. Confirmation bias, that's one the most fascinating phenomenon that I think everybody should be aware of because it probably causes most of the problems in the world.

As far as you, I find it so interesting how in trying to put me down you say that I want a Mac, but can't afford it. It kind of says a lot about you. It sounds like impressing people is really important to you, and because of the value you place on the brand because it's expensive, you think it impresses others.

So communication is not about communication? Interesting.

No I just think you really really want a Mac. Your interpretation of what I said is confirmation bias.

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:confused: I get a lot of calls a day regarding ransomware viruses. Not just easy ones, either; not a case of logging in through Safe Mode and running MalwareBytes. They're not in %temp%, or %AppData%, in msconfig or startup folder. I'm talking ransomware that hooks itself on explorer.exe registry entries, in the depths of HKLM and HKCU. It's damn clever, but near enough bricks the computer. Boot into Safe Mode? It restarts the computer. Only way to do it is to boot into Safe Mode with Command Prompt (when it doesn't load up the explorer shell), and tell a person on the phone the exact registry keys to edit in order to temporarily disable the virus ... then reboot, we log in, and spend the next 4 hours cleaning up more viruses.

Also I'm inundated with calls when Security Centre is disabled, as are Windows Firewall and Windows Updates. No, not just 'disabled' as in 'restart it in services.msc', I mean malware deleted the registry entries (common theme?) so we have to readd them, and then change the folder permissions in a certain registry key to add MpsSvc and give full permission to that, then you can see it in services.msc and re-enable it …

It's a PITA. It really is. Malware, spyware, adware, bloatware -- whatever you want to call it -- is a huge problem on Windows. People like you who are so willingly ignorant, who say things like: "Oh, I've never had a BSOD/virus infection/inexplicable Windows fail in xx years of using Windows computers" -- well, I call shenanigans. I really, really do.

If you think Windows is easy to use and doesn't have problems as long as you 'know what you're doing', you don't know anything more than the basics. If you think it's an easy OS to use, you haven't used enough of its features. And certainly, if you haven't heard of similar malware on Windows, then you're either a poor troll or you really do know nothing, Jon Snow.

And as an aside, I've always found that Apple-haters are far more aggressive and arrogant than the Apple lovers. It's a shame you've done little to disprove that.

/rant

Now hold on a second, don't go trying to spoil his perception with facts.

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Communication is not so much about me talking and somebody listen, but rather about how people interpret and how they react to things. Confirmation bias, that's one the most fascinating phenomenon that I think everybody should be aware of because it probably causes most of the problems in the world.

As far as you, I find it so interesting how in trying to put me down you say that I want a Mac, but can't afford it. It kind of says a lot about you. It sounds like impressing people is really important to you, and because of the value you place on the brand because it's expensive, you think it impresses others.

Can't resist. Someone claiming others should be aware of confirmation bias... is clearly not aware that he is exhibiting all of the symptoms!

"Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is a tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses.[Note 1][1] People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way."

Just sayin'
 

cmwade77

macrumors 65816
Nov 18, 2008
1,071
1,200
I've never heard of similar marware on Windows. It's just funny how MacRumors says that because it's sounds so much like an emotionally dependent fanboy attempt of trying to deflect.

Really? I can't count the number or Windows computers that I have had to deal with this on. The difference is to get rid of it, you had to reformat Windows in many cases.
 

solusla

macrumors newbie
Jul 16, 2013
3
1
You can also stop an application from restoring previously open windows by holding down "Option" while quitting (Option-Command-Q)—may be especially useful in this case.

Also, you can simply delete the "Saved State" folder for the app in "~/Library/Saved Application State/", which in the case of Safari is "~/Library/Saved Application State/com.apple.Safari.savedState/".

To permanetly turn off the restore feature for a specific application (and not systemwide) use the "defaults write" command in Terminal.

defaults write com.apple.Safari NSQuitAlwaysKeepsWindows -bool false
defaults write com.google.Chrome NSQuitAlwaysKeepsWindows -bool false
etc.

Change "false" to "true" to re-enable it.
 

inlovewithi

macrumors 6502a
Sep 23, 2009
615
0
You didn't work in the labs long enough then. I've worked in Higher Education IT for 15 years now, and believe me I've seen it all. We've got really good blockers and filters in place now, but we used to have students looking up porn, employees caught viewing porn, a few child-porn incidents, and one student even hid an arm under a jacket and tried to ahem "enjoy" his experience in the lab.

I still can't believe that someone would risk expulsion or termination or career suicide over a few pictures and video, but some people simply can't wait until they get home. Sad really.

I didn't come across it, but since I had a similar job that sounded so interesting.

I'm sure some of the students did look up porn where I worked, I just meant that the environment made it less likely than other environments. Plus the blocks. I'm sure the desire was there.
 

bushido

Suspended
Mar 26, 2008
8,070
2,755
Germany
i used to get "pop ups" that told me to update my Internet Explorer while looking at streaming sites, they looked very well done but than i realized im on a mac so there isnt even IE :D oh and the lovely footnote *99€ subscription for 24 months also threw me off :p
 

tongxinshe

macrumors 65816
Feb 24, 2008
1,064
651
This is exactly why I don't like (and will turn off) the "re-open all previously open windows" feature. Even accidental Javascript errors can result in endless windows, and errors like that are much easier to clear by quitting and restarting.

After force quitting several times in a row, Safari won't automatically reopen the sessions. I think the current default behavior is the best balance between normal data restoration and occasional unexpected scenario like this.
 

pirg

macrumors 6502a
Apr 18, 2013
618
0
I've never heard of similar marware on Windows. It's just funny how MacRumors says that because it's sounds so much like an emotionally dependent fanboy attempt of trying to deflect.

Guys inlovewithi has never heard of this on windows, MacRumors must be lying...

:rolleyes:
 

davenet

macrumors member
Oct 6, 2004
41
16
San Luis Obispo, CA
I've never heard of similar marware on Windows. It's just funny how MacRumors says that because it's sounds so much like an emotionally dependent fanboy attempt of trying to deflect.

I work at a place where we repair computers for consumers. This FBI virus is one we are constantly seeing. So just because you have not seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just do a Google search and you will see what I'm saying is true. There are several variations of it. Some of then are very difficult to completely remove. In some cases a wipe and reload was needed.
 

Chupa Chupa

macrumors G5
Jul 16, 2002
14,835
7,396
Oh boy. Think of how many innocent husbands are going to get slammed when their wives see this and think all that time their husbands said they were staying up late to watch a game they were looking a pron. Not a fight any guy can win no matter if they are guilty or not. Guy profiling. :D
 

840quadra

Moderator
Staff member
Feb 1, 2005
9,256
5,968
Twin Cities Minnesota
As others have mentioned. It is a loose (and quite poor) Browser hijack, not ransom-ware. I was under the impression that this was installing software on the Mac causing it to become unstable until a Detail clean, or a "ransom" was paid.

Still, worthwhile information.
 

InfoTime

macrumors 6502a
Jul 17, 2002
500
261
Watched the video. The guy making the video says he was searching for Taylor Swift on Bing, purely for research purposes...

Suuurrree..

:D
 

baryon

macrumors 68040
Oct 3, 2009
3,878
2,929
The automatic reopening of windows is probably the stupidest and most annoying new feature in OS X. I gave myself a week to get used to it, and then ended up turning it off. I want my new windows to be a clean slate, a fresh start.
 

j4zb4

macrumors 6502a
Oct 15, 2011
733
0
:confused: I get a lot of calls a day regarding ransomware viruses. Not just easy ones, either; not a case of logging in through Safe Mode and running MalwareBytes. They're not in %temp%, or %AppData%, in msconfig or startup folder. I'm talking ransomware that hooks itself on explorer.exe registry entries, in the depths of HKLM and HKCU. It's damn clever, but near enough bricks the computer. Boot into Safe Mode? It restarts the computer. Only way to do it is to boot into Safe Mode with Command Prompt (when it doesn't load up the explorer shell), and tell a person on the phone the exact registry keys to edit in order to temporarily disable the virus ... then reboot, we log in, and spend the next 4 hours cleaning up more viruses.

Also I'm inundated with calls when Security Centre is disabled, as are Windows Firewall and Windows Updates. No, not just 'disabled' as in 'restart it in services.msc', I mean malware deleted the registry entries (common theme?) so we have to readd them, and then change the folder permissions in a certain registry key to add MpsSvc and give full permission to that, then you can see it in services.msc and re-enable it …

It's a PITA. It really is. Malware, spyware, adware, bloatware -- whatever you want to call it -- is a huge problem on Windows. People like you who are so willingly ignorant, who say things like: "Oh, I've never had a BSOD/virus infection/inexplicable Windows fail in xx years of using Windows computers" -- well, I call shenanigans. I really, really do.

If you think Windows is easy to use and doesn't have problems as long as you 'know what you're doing', you don't know anything more than the basics. If you think it's an easy OS to use, you haven't used enough of its features. And certainly, if you haven't heard of similar malware on Windows, then you're either a poor troll or you really do know nothing, Jon Snow.

And as an aside, I've always found that Apple-haters are far more aggressive and arrogant than the Apple lovers. It's a shame you've done little to disprove that.

/rant

Don't waste your precious time on him... He is really just a troll... Just go through his post history... And I bet he will never respond to your comment... lol...
 

appleisking

macrumors 6502a
May 24, 2013
658
3,022
Stop being an arrogant git.

You can't measure anything with a bell curve by the way. Idiot.

Not that I'm defending his insensitivity, but what he probably meant was IQ results are normally distributed which means there inherently have to be some really dumb people who would fall for this.
 

msandersen

macrumors regular
Jan 7, 2003
217
31
Sydney, Australia
This guy must be seriously unhappy with his choice of computer to come on here and try to knock Apple down so frequently. His profile is humorous to look at.
You're right, an obvious troll. Boasting he's been "Mac-free" since 2010, yet trolling Macrumors for attention.
baryon said:
The automatic reopening of windows is probably the stupidest and most annoying new feature in OS X. I gave myself a week to get used to it, and then ended up turning it off. I want my new windows to be a clean slate, a fresh start.
Personally I love this feature, as I end up opening up lots of tabs and often don't get around to finish reading all of them before I log out, or just want to keep certain tabs open til later as I do research. But thankfully you do have a choice, we all work differently. I can always press Shift on startup to toggle it off temporarily if I needed to, like in this case with a misbehaving website, or turn it off altogether if I changed my mind and didn't want it.
 
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