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OS X Yosemite Beta: First Impressions, Installation Tips, Known Issues, and Bug Fixes
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This sort of link emphasis is misleading
The article should be corrected.
it implies there are improvements if you scan read.
The article should be corrected.
Wooo beta 1!
My mail icon did not update the 10.10 "flat" look its still the same as in Mavericks, anybody else have this problem?
My mail icon did not update the 10.10 "flat" look its still the same as in Mavericks, anybody else have this problem?
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Apple bases too much on simplicity, which hides additional information which is useful for bugs / troubleshooting. They should have a special mode that only advanced and tech support can access, to read the logs and errors and submit these for investigation - it's not that hard to do. As I say sometimes simplicity causes more complexity - especially when it all goes wrong because its all hidden behind the scenes.
I dunno why, but upon opening iTunes you this option is greyed out, however after going to store its available
Not on my music.
Is the Public Beta a Newer release than the Developer Preview 4? Because this release does not look or act act as smooth as DP4, redrawing windows and stuff...just installed the public beta. Just does not seem as fluid and smooth as DP4. Anybody know anything in regards to this?
Also, all my aliases dissociated and no longer work. Every single one. Had to make new ones.
Also, all my aliases dissociated and no longer work. Every single one. Had to make new ones.
Apps like Final Cut Pro X, Aperture, iMovie, and Pixelmator also do not appear to be fully functional.
How ironic that several "Apple" apps have issues with Yosemite. Really Apple? jeeez... Doesn't give you much confidence..
lol..
That's like saying when Microsoft released IE 10 (i think) half of theor own websites didn't work.
This is a beta after all, but you'd expect Apple apps to work whatever the cost..
It IS Apple, after all.
On my download page it states "BETA 1".
I do not know whether it is public beta 1 or developer beta 1.
There's an easy explanation for the divergent reactions:
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What's the build number of the public beta? DP4 is 14A298i
- The "Yosemite looks great" crowd are the ones with retina displays.
- The "Yosemite looks crap" crowd are the ones without retina displays.
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What's the build number of the public beta? DP4 is 14A298i
I like Yosemite so far and there's very little not working as expected. The cooling fans on my mid 2013 Air are running constantly though, which is something they have never done previously. Also deleting one message in a mail conversation works fine, as does deleting the whole conversation.. However I cannot delete two or three messages without leaving mail and returning.
Apps like Final Cut Pro X, Aperture, iMovie, and Pixelmator also do not appear to be fully functional.
How ironic that several "Apple" apps have issues with Yosemite. Really Apple? jeeez... Doesn't give you much confidence..
That's the idea. You tell Apple certain **** is not working in your beta. Apple fix all the issues before the final release is out. Betas will have bugs. Bringing them to the attention of the devs is our job. And it's up tot he devs to fix (and not ignore) the bugs.
(Some non Apple devs do ignore beta feedback. And this saddens me a lot).
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You saying we need Retina iMacs and stand alone displays from Apple?
Just checked. This public beta is Build 14A299l
So apparently the public beta is newer. I think my window redraw thing is a perceived thing. I am expecting the windows to all fly out elegantly at 60fps with no redraw lag, and that isn't happening, even with 2GB of VRAM.
Overall, seems as stable as the DP4 with no Application issues that were not present in DP4. Most everything I have works OK.
Again, I had problems with all my aliases when I booted into the beta...my aliases were dissociated and no longer worked, even my desktop picture folders were invalid. All easy fixes, but annoying.
I noticed some possible change to the transluceny in dark mode vs. DP4. The translucency seems to be a a bit higher with a gradient now on the menu bar, and a flat, non-translucent DARK gray on the dock. Looks *very* good.
I want to share the desktop photo I use with Dark Mode. Looks great. Enjoy!
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Are you using the latest beta build? Because I have it right in front of me now and I don't see any more transparency. The drop down menu fonts are very clear, too. And my Safari has no Fav tab showing...
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Not those menus, but if you click the battery icon for example, the time remaining icon is way too light for me to read.
The safari transparency happens as you scroll through a web page. It's worse on graphically rich websites. The Verge's website is the most extreme example.
Nda
This thread is a bit strange as EVERYONE who it using the Beta is under a non-disclosure agreement with Apple.
That said I think I'll be OK as everyone has seen the demo at dev conference.
So I've installed Yosemite (on a separate partition).
Things to note:
1. It looks a lot like Ubuntu (an older Unix based OS).
2. The Helvetica Neue font is harder to read and sometimes looks a bit jagged on my non-retina display especially in 'Dark Mode' where it's bolder.
3. Adobe CS5 works! I am guessing CS6 would work too...
This thread is a bit strange as EVERYONE who it using the Beta is under a non-disclosure agreement with Apple.
That said I think I'll be OK as everyone has seen the demo at dev conference.
So I've installed Yosemite (on a separate partition).
Things to note:
1. It looks a lot like Ubuntu (an older Unix based OS).
2. The Helvetica Neue font is harder to read and sometimes looks a bit jagged on my non-retina display especially in 'Dark Mode' where it's bolder.
3. Adobe CS5 works! I am guessing CS6 would work too...
My monthly data quota is almost over. Can't download this beta.
Me too
but then I say I don't have iOS 8 yet so I won't be able to use the handoff, continuity, phone calls and SMS features and I have one MacBook Pro only which is my primary so I won't risk it with this beta, so I guess I am going to wait till the full official release 
After playing around with it I discovered that clicking around some of the icons at the upper left of the page opened it up. The ones that list music, podcast, etc. I can't remember which one it was.
I can confirm CS6 works too. Photoshop and Dreamweaver do, at least. Do not know about all the video features with Premiere, however.
If you are going to judge on looks
The first thing you should do in an OS is set a white background. Nothing will scream boring like a mostly transparent UI on a white background. If the UI elements can't add any pizazz on top of white, then its a fail in design overall.
I think Apple is spinning on UI design in general after Jobs left, I think every iteration of OS and product is trying out some new GUI concept but this is what has bogged Windows down over the years because there has been no cohesive focus on UI from generation to generation of product. Why should OS X look considerably different than iOS is beyond me, I would have thought Apple would want to try and unify the experiences on both.
I will save judgement until the released of Yosemite because betas are always changing and "hopefully" Apple is listening to the critics. But overall I think the company has spun out of control on UI design and desperately trying to bring distinction to their products, which has typically been a Microsoft only weakness. Obviously the skeuomorphism crowd at Apple have lost, now you have a team of UI designers that are trying to find a cohesive vision to center around and have not yet done so IMHO.
BTW transparency is the laziest UI design in history.
The first thing you should do in an OS is set a white background. Nothing will scream boring like a mostly transparent UI on a white background. If the UI elements can't add any pizazz on top of white, then its a fail in design overall.
I think Apple is spinning on UI design in general after Jobs left, I think every iteration of OS and product is trying out some new GUI concept but this is what has bogged Windows down over the years because there has been no cohesive focus on UI from generation to generation of product. Why should OS X look considerably different than iOS is beyond me, I would have thought Apple would want to try and unify the experiences on both.
I will save judgement until the released of Yosemite because betas are always changing and "hopefully" Apple is listening to the critics. But overall I think the company has spun out of control on UI design and desperately trying to bring distinction to their products, which has typically been a Microsoft only weakness. Obviously the skeuomorphism crowd at Apple have lost, now you have a team of UI designers that are trying to find a cohesive vision to center around and have not yet done so IMHO.
BTW transparency is the laziest UI design in history.
Not so.
https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/faq
Then there is this:
https://appleseed.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/legal
This all makes sense. But this is a public beta. And I think it falls under the category of "is generally made available to the public by Apple". In saying this people post videos and screenshots of Apple Developer Previews all the time. If Apple was going to go all legal on the people who do it, they would have started a long time ago.
Apple realise once a software is in the Developer Preview realm it's going to be splashed around everywhere. And they are ok with it.