I thought it was a good idea...
But in reality, I never hold my phone in that way to cause the signal to drop, so this really doesn't bother me in the slightest
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I thought it was a good idea...
But in reality, I never hold my phone in that way to cause the signal to drop, so this really doesn't bother me in the slightest
It's the Phone!
I have a new found respect for AT&T.
This will go down, as one of the biggest PR disasters in history...
Sad day for Apple ...
I want a free "bumper" mailed to me in less then 30 days and an apology - or Apple will lose my business.
I have a new found respect for AT&T.
This will go down, as one of the biggest PR disasters in history...
Sad day for Apple ...
I want a free "bumper" mailed to me in less then 30 days and an apology - or Apple will lose my business.
Perhaps because this time it actually forces calls to drop. Slight difference between the 3GS dropping bars and maintaining calls and the 4 simply dropping all bars and all calls. I also enjoy how Macrumors is running point on this for Apple.
Well, I'm saying that I've tested three myself and had another friend test his. Four out of four fail to load web pages over 3G (be sure wifi is off) when the antennas are properly shorted at the lower left. 4/4 on my end. I strongly doubt anyone PROPERLY executing this test will see a different result. Though some will think they're in the clear.
What the hell are you talking about? I merely pointed out that it was ridiculous that the poster I quoted was basically calling someone a liar because his phone didn't exhibit any of the signs of this issue. Mine doesn't either.
Because this time you don't need to use a weird position to block the signal. The normal phone holding position does it. Most phones, you have to hold them in a weird fashion to cover or short the antennas.
iPhone 4 conveniently places the antenna right where people hold the phone, making it easy to cover up and short the antenna. Apple is working hard to make things easy on the users.
iPhone signal strength
I have a July 5th delivery, could bail if I wanted. I also wanted bumpers, and I mainly use the phone hands free in car any how... If it bugs you, don't buy it. All things equal, maybe antenna seam on top right would have been way smarter. Or a $2 integrated bumper/coating... On the other hand, what other phone can you sell for $300 when you upgrade two years later? I sold my minty fresh 3G for more than the upgrade cost of my 3GS....
I have a July 5th delivery, could bail if I wanted. I also wanted bumpers, and I mainly use the phone hands free in car any how... If it bugs you, don't buy it. All things equal, maybe antenna seam on top right would have been way smarter. Or a $2 integrated bumper/coating... On the other hand, what other phone can you sell for $300 when you upgrade two years later? I sold my minty fresh 3G for more than the upgrade cost of my 3GS....
It's not a very hard test to execute. I stand by my statement that my phone hasn't shown any signs of the issue.
Some of you guys need to cool your jets. Spoiled rotten kids.
Apple and other companies are giving us the most amazing technology ever. I may have to avoid holding the phone in a certain way for optimal signal strength? BIG FRICKING DEAL! I'll happily do that for the privilege of getting to use an iPhone.
This technology is the stuff of my dreams. I've got a miniature phone/computer in my pocket? With usable internet? Camera/video? Face Time? Video editing!? WTF?! It's an amazing amount of power.
You jokers have no idea how hard it is to make a product like the iPhone.
Thank you Apple. Thank you to everyone around the world that helps to make all this technology possible.
Apple and other companies are giving us the most amazing technology ever. I may have to avoid holding the phone in a certain way for optimal signal strength? BIG FRICKING DEAL! I'll happily do that for the privilege of getting to use an iPhone.
This technology is the stuff of my dreams. I've got a miniature phone/computer in my pocket? With usable internet? Camera/video? Face Time? Video editing!? WTF?! It's an amazing amount of power.
You jokers have no idea how hard it is to make a product like the iPhone.
Thank you Apple. Thank you to everyone around the world that helps to make all this technology possible.
I agree that having that gap so visible to bridge with some very conductive skin (if that is what is happening) wasn't a good idea. But people placing nickels over the gap to prove a point is a bit silly.
And you never had your father make you hold the rabbit ears on your old tv so he could get a better signal? Sometimes it actually can help
Wi-Fi off/3G service only
iPhone on table top without touching it - page loads reasonably fast.
iPhone on table top while bridging left corner, then both corners with hands - no difference in page load speed or signal strength.
As stated before, this might be due to certain individuals having inherently more conductivity interference than others.
I agree, Apple ought to provide covers to remedy this situation.
I've reproduced it too. But, not until I tried. Meaning, I've been using the phone for 2 days now and don't have any issues. When I saw the posting this morning, I tried and reproduced. The rest of the day I just went about my business using the phone (all day...love this phone) and didn't have any issues.
So, I guess it's possible that's a "non-issue" for me
Well I just read through the micro product information guide that came with the phone and while it covers RF hazards and identifies the location of the antenna, it does not tell you to keep your hand off of the area. It does tell you to keep the phone 15mm away from your body to keep your Rf exposure within spec.
So what we have here is the failure on Apples part to write a good manual, but the phone itself is wonderful
Pretty expensive privilege. I'd rather not have this half-assed "privilege" if it doesn't work as well as the previous version at the most basic feature. Especially if I have to fork out big bucks for it.
If they were giving them out for free i'd agree with you.
You know what, I agree we should not have to put a bumper on it and it's kinda cheesy for Steve to say just hold it differently (it should be designed to be used as some one would tend to hold the iphone).
But... that being said, I like the phone enough I am willing to overlook it and it's not that hard to change my habits how to hold it (really I can only get it to reproduce if I grip tightly and have slightly clammy hands, it's more comfortable gripping it loosely anyways). It's one specific spot you have to hold (it would be different if it was the whole side so you had to try pretty hard to avoid touching it. Would make it unusable).
*AND* I have yet to see it totally lose connection, I just lose bars. Worse it goes to zero bars but still can load webpages.
So, so far I have not seen it actually have any affect on me other than making me worry about if coverage isn't as good if it will loose signal.
But... that being said, I like the phone enough I am willing to overlook it and it's not that hard to change my habits how to hold it (really I can only get it to reproduce if I grip tightly and have slightly clammy hands, it's more comfortable gripping it loosely anyways). It's one specific spot you have to hold (it would be different if it was the whole side so you had to try pretty hard to avoid touching it. Would make it unusable).
*AND* I have yet to see it totally lose connection, I just lose bars. Worse it goes to zero bars but still can load webpages.
So, so far I have not seen it actually have any affect on me other than making me worry about if coverage isn't as good if it will loose signal.
I love mine. If you use it in case (bumpers or whatever), don't grip in the left-corner way, and have decent ATT service where you are, I say get it. I show the problem to a bunch of people at my work and they are still getting theirs.
If only this was completely true.
A slight loss of signal is one thing, but being in exactly the same environment & then experiencing dropped calls because of the way you hold the phone is something else entirely.
Yes I live in a strong signal area, adopted iphone since v.1, first time total loss of signal has occurred this easily
So glad to see some cooler heads on here now. How's about we all just use our phones and, if it turns out we can't, then we can all be upset eh? As it is I've found myself trying all sorts of ways to mess he signal up and, yes, I can do it, but the point is I'm trying to do it.
People are saying that older phones are not comparable but they are. The technology is pretty much the same in terms of RF and antennas. You just have to deal with this sort of thing sometimes. I agree SJ's first response was a bit high handed but it's also true.
People are saying that older phones are not comparable but they are. The technology is pretty much the same in terms of RF and antennas. You just have to deal with this sort of thing sometimes. I agree SJ's first response was a bit high handed but it's also true.
Yep, I see the same on my 3GS, unless I am way over '5' bars...meaning that I am above -95 dBm ( I display dBm on my non-jailbroken phone). I can toggle between bars and dBm directly.