Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Other Mobile Phones with Similar Signal Loss Issues
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Really? Post a video please. And, do mean it goes up when you wake it up? Or just hold it? Reason I ask because none of our test phones at my work do this.
I don't have anything to record a video with except my N1 and it can't record a video of itself. But if it's on a table and then I pick it up, there's a slight increase in signal strength, we're talking about 2 or 3 dBm though, nothing significant.
Either...
1. You are not bridging the strip.
Or
2. You are wearing gloves or have very dry skin
Or
3. You are loading a cached page
Or
4. You are being dishonest
The issue with the Nexus One only happens in an already low signal area. In a place with full, or almost full bars nothing changes.
But shorting out the iPhone 4's antenna brings it all the way from full bars to no signal. Really no comparison.
But shorting out the iPhone 4's antenna brings it all the way from full bars to no signal. Really no comparison.
LOL yeah remember all those TV antennas they used to make the picture better when you touched them, as a kid I theorized it then used me as the antenna.
I can't believe...
I can't believe I'm going to side with Steve on this, but I think he might just be right. I never noticed it before, but I just got the same result on my 3GS: Hold it in the palm of my hand, I get one bar. Hold it by the edge between my index finger and thumb, I get five. Same position and orientation in space.
Could it be that this is a common issue with phones, but iPhone 4's unique design has just made it particularly noticeable?
I can't believe I'm going to side with Steve on this, but I think he might just be right. I never noticed it before, but I just got the same result on my 3GS: Hold it in the palm of my hand, I get one bar. Hold it by the edge between my index finger and thumb, I get five. Same position and orientation in space.
Could it be that this is a common issue with phones, but iPhone 4's unique design has just made it particularly noticeable?
when I press bottom left corner of the phone by finger
I can clearly see signal degradation,
I can't reproduce that when I use bumper,
so it's not an issue for me
also, usually I didn't touch bottom left corner when I use my phone
so it's not an issue even without bumper
I can clearly see signal degradation,
I can't reproduce that when I use bumper,
so it's not an issue for me
also, usually I didn't touch bottom left corner when I use my phone
so it's not an issue even without bumper
Ya gotta be sweaty and slightly dehydrated to throw your electolites off to gain the proper conductivity.
It also seems to be a feature of other models of iPhones running iOS4.
Okay, I've seen this issue on many phones. Not just old phones. Android, HTC, Nokia, and Blackberry.
And, yes, if your signal strength is good, it's not a factor. But, when you 're on the fringe of the network, it's a bummer. But, then again, I see this all the time on other phones as well.
The only problem I have is that you kill the signal when holding the left corner. That part is not so fun if you don't have a cover on your phone.
I'm guess I'm lucky that ATT is decent around here.
And, yes, if your signal strength is good, it's not a factor. But, when you 're on the fringe of the network, it's a bummer. But, then again, I see this all the time on other phones as well.
The only problem I have is that you kill the signal when holding the left corner. That part is not so fun if you don't have a cover on your phone.
I'm guess I'm lucky that ATT is decent around here.
Same thing happens with 3G and 3Gs
Gorilla gripping whilst on 3G the signal drops...
Then..Holding it 'normally' the bars return.
Gorilla gripping whilst on 3G the signal drops...
Then..Holding it 'normally' the bars return.
Yes, there are plenty of other poorly designed cell phones.
I do not experience this issue with my 3G. At most, if I wrap both hands completely around it, I lose 2 bars from a full signal.
I do not experience this issue with my 3G. At most, if I wrap both hands completely around it, I lose 2 bars from a full signal.
I can demonstrate this on my 3G with a case on. If I grip it on the bottom half it will go from 5 bars to 3 bars very quickly. I can reproduce it easily.
This is a "case" of people being told something is a problem when it is really just normal and then everyone molesting their phones and freaking out.
This is a "case" of people being told something is a problem when it is really just normal and then everyone molesting their phones and freaking out.
When I hold my phone in the palm of my left hand at my office, within a few seconds, the bars drop one by one, and then the 3G switches to Edge, every time. They come back if I move my hand or set the phone down.
In my house, I hold it exactly the same way, and the bars don't drop at all.
In my house, I hold it exactly the same way, and the bars don't drop at all.
wow... never knew macrumours had so many cell phone engineers. I am eagerly awaiting YOUR new design. PLEASE hurry I have limited time to return this ungodly POS to get your new phone. having to keep my pinky off the lower part of the phone? pffffft i demand, no DESERVE more than that
maybe try plastic and thick skins...but I am no cell phone engineer. May be a reality of how antennas work. oh wait i got it, maybe one of the telescopic antennas that come out the top, like the original cell phones from back in the day? yeah they had no hand placement issues with signal strength what so ever.
oh wait, just a hand full of brats whining.
nevermind.
maybe try plastic and thick skins...but I am no cell phone engineer. May be a reality of how antennas work. oh wait i got it, maybe one of the telescopic antennas that come out the top, like the original cell phones from back in the day? yeah they had no hand placement issues with signal strength what so ever.
oh wait, just a hand full of brats whining.
nevermind.
It might be a non-issue. It might be that people are exaggerating, and that only a small part of all these claims are actually serious enough to result in a return.
However, I found Steve's response extremely unprofessional and disrespectful.
I said this on another topic and I'll say this again: going for a Google phone would not satisfy me because of a subpar user experience (yes, I've tested it) and 20% of apps running malicious hidden commands that put your private information at the hands of others without your consent or knowledge. However, going for an iPhone has become a lot harder now.
It is still the best device out there (specially since I'd run a case any way). But that answer from Jobs really made him Douchebag of the Day at my eyes.
However, I found Steve's response extremely unprofessional and disrespectful.
I said this on another topic and I'll say this again: going for a Google phone would not satisfy me because of a subpar user experience (yes, I've tested it) and 20% of apps running malicious hidden commands that put your private information at the hands of others without your consent or knowledge. However, going for an iPhone has become a lot harder now.
It is still the best device out there (specially since I'd run a case any way). But that answer from Jobs really made him Douchebag of the Day at my eyes.
I agree. It seems like this popped up quickly to give Apple an out and deflect from Steve's crass comment. Wow.