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“Play music that I like”. Ok, pay me 5usd.
“Play good music”. Ok, pay me.
“Read my mind and play music that I want to hear now but I don’t want to recall the artist or the song name”. Ok, pay me to give a you a random selection of music that you will think you mostly like but my marketing efforts will convince you that you like.
 
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The voice plan is clearly directed toward Spotify users who want to be able to play music from their HomePods more easily, which is why it was announced right next to the HomePod segment this week. It's a way to incentivize people away from Spotify and back into the Apple ecosystem. Don't understand the people who are criticizing this plan so negatively.
 
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I would have a hard time paying for a music catalog that I can't search. I have apple one so I'm not the target demographic, but even still...
 
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The voice plan is clearly directed toward Spotify users who want to be able to play music from their HomePods more easily, which is why it was announced right next to the HomePod segment this week. It's a way to incentivize people away from Spotify and back into the Apple ecosystem. Don't understand the people who are criticizing this plan so negatively.


You just described it negatively.
 
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I would have a hard time paying for a music catalog that I can't search. I have apple one so I'm not the target demographic, but even still...
You can search on your phone for an artist or song, you just can’t press play. Instead you have to ask Siri to play that.
 
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Literally Apple asking people to pay to use Siri ?
Not exactly
. . . There is no cost difference to those already subscribed to access this feature. . .
Correct
No, they're asking people to pay for a Siri-only version of the entire Apple Music library, aren't they?
Yes
Exactly, in other words, they’re paying to use a Siri-only version on Apple Music.
To be clear:

Current Apple Music subscribers will now have these playlists available to them (if they wish to try them).

Someone who does NOT currently subscribe to Apple Music now has the option to purchase this new plan which has only the voice control to select music to be played, however it will NOT be limited only to these new playlists. You can still ask Siri to play a specific album, specific artist, and so forth.
 
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I just want the genius button back. I have tons of cds imported and even more albums bought so I frequently forget what I have. Having genius find more songs in my library that I haven’t played in a while was great.
 
This goes back to the same arguments that were made in the early days of voice assistants and why they are so flawed.

A voice assistant that understands a handful of phrases is fine, because people can memorize those.

A voice assistant that understands everything is also fine, because people can speak naturally and still be understood.

A voice assistant that understands thousands of specific phrases is useless, because no one knows what any of them are.
 
Hey Siri, play classical music that is truly relaxing, nostalgic, and will help me focus while I read and study--not something that is made to put my brain into a deep sleep and not something that has a jarring opening.
Edvard Grieg or Jean Sibelius
Mozart provides these moments as well
 
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Someone who does NOT currently subscribe to Apple Music now has the option to purchase this new plan which has only the voice control to select music to be played, however it will NOT be limited only to these new playlists. You can still ask Siri to play a specific album, specific artist, and so forth.
This seems good for someone who only has a HomePod. But extremely weird for them if they have anything with a UI.
 
I just want the genius button back. I have tons of cds imported and even more albums bought so I frequently forget what I have. Having genius find more songs in my library that I haven’t played in a while was great.
Genius shuffle is still available in Music.

I have a playlist in Music (on my iMac) that is set up to capture all tracks that I have not played (since added to my Music library). I can select that playlist on my iPhone, in the Music app, and either 'play', or 'shuffle'.

That's not what I personally do, but it seems to me that it would provide you with what you're looking for.
 
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 never figured out how to program music
and MtLion was the last OSX that knew A-ha made "hunting high and low" not a-ha and A-ha
forget about trying to sort out anything Beethoven or Mozart....

and that's why I am ditching Catalina and going back to Mojave mainly for music purposes
music is worse than iTunes.
the interface, switching from artist and adding my albums to an iPad is tedious .
 
For example, I'd like to ask Siri to play a play list, but not on the Home Pod I'm engaging with but to the Air Play capable stereo system in the same room and another Home Pod elsewhere in the house.
This works now? We do this all the time, and I just tested it again to be extra sure: "Hey Siri, play coffeehouse jazz in the kitchen." Totally works. Oh, but I did have to set up rooms in Home and assign speakers. Have you done that?
 
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This could have been a value added function of AM, that many of us would not use, but charging 5usd ON TOP of AM… wow. Ridiculous. Surely some people will pay, so good for Apple, but a joke to us…
This is not an extra $5 on top of AM. If someone already has AM, then they already have Siri-enabled functionality and these new Apple-curated playlists will already be part of their existing plan. This Siri-only $5 plan is a new, cheaper plan instead of (not in addition to) the current personal or family plans.
 
Being able to build a playlist based on mood was my favorite part of a now defunct app called Songza. It was surprisingly accurate and introduced me to several songs I never would have guessed I'd like. I miss that app.
 
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This is the biggest problem I have with  Music. It keeps pushing new music more than eras it should know I listen to. It also pushes genres I have no interest in. I already told which genres I like, but is ignored. The Like and Dislike buttons seem to be useless. What I also find annoying is that the same songs keep coming up in playlists. It’s like radio, where they only play 5 songs all the time
It’s underlying assumption is that we are all teen girls or into rap. I have been using it for 2 years and it has not introduced me to one new song via algorithm. And my tastes are not super eclectic and I listen to lots of new music. Usually the New Music Daily Playlist once a week looking for new stuff.
 
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People minds will blow when they discover something called “radio stations”.
So, Apple wants to charge, and a good deal of money, for the extra value that Siri supposedly represents?.
Later Apple will charge monthly fees for most voice commands in iPhones and then for email, then for Safari, then for 5G, then for photos recognition, then pro-motion, etc. The ambition of Apple is blinding them.
This service is absolutely ridiculous. This could have been a value added function of AM, that many of us would not use, but charging 5usd ON TOP of AM… wow. Ridiculous. Surely some people will pay, so good for Apple, but a joke to us…
I think this is a tier below not additional extra. It’s the starter service driven by voice. Unless I understood wrong.
 
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Great Siri understands the commands....shame Apple Music doesn't recognize taste from countless hours of my music preferences and dislike...
There was one song that was not in my library and that I marked as disliked that kept coming up over and over and I would skip it every time. I think about after two years the song stopped coming up. I wished there was a way to block a song or an artist altogether. For example, what if you like classical music but you just can't stand Chopin for some reason? Conceivable. Or if you hate Poison but like everything in that genre or period? There is still no way to accommodate something simple like this.
 
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