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You're not seeing the big picture here. This is nothing but win for Apple.

For the developers of the 4000-5000 adult-themed, soft porn, boobie-jiggling apps that were just canned from the store, you have only one question to ask yourselves. Who's you're daddy now?

What on earth are you on about DLL files for? I was saying that whatever apple do, people will criticise them (damned of they do, damned if they don't).

As for "Who's you're daddy now?"

Who is you are daddy now? Way that **** does that mean?
 
Removing people's right to access to contents that the authority deemed as "problematic" is censorship. Period.
 
Since when does censorship require the act of stopping people from producing the content in question? Apple is removing these apps from their store. It's the very definition of censorship.

Comparable situation: the head of your local library decides to remove all books that have overtly sexual content. By your definition, is that not censorship?

Is certainly is, and what Apple is doing is every bit as disgusting as a library censoring content. I think this is a really stupid thing for Apple to be doing.

Censorship is enforced by the government, not private corporations. Censorship is making it illegal to do or say something. Make sense?

I really think you guys are making too big a deal out of this. International companies, including internet-based ones such as Google and Yahoo, usually do not solicit pornography or sexual material.
 
Removing people's right to access to contents that the authority deemed as "problematic" is censorship. Period.

Ok, let's see you take Apple to court over that assertion.

You'd be laughed at by the front desk and anyone within vicinity because you couldn't be anymore wrong.
 
for the better i think. If you really need that kind of stuff, your phone has the internet and can watch videos..you shouldn't really need an entire app:cool:

Why do you need a facebook app, twitter app or weather app ?

Let Apple decide about every aspect of your life. Let them choose your next partner as well.
 
I would like to see the useless apps pulled also......
Define useless: the Apple remote app is useless for ppl not owning that crappy Apple tv.

Anyhow, Apple should make a decent search engine or just purchase one. If actually one could search the app store the way you search elsewhere, no one could care for the useless apps (by just blocking some words in a search).

"-fart" was invented ages ago.
 
I like boobies as much as anyone, but the App Store is better without all that cruft. I wouldn't mind if they allowed it but walled it off somehow, but I didn't like wading through hundreds of lame slideshow apps to see what else was there.
 
This could be a clean up in preparation for iPad. It's not inconceivable Apple thinks some sauce is too hot for the family living room, regardless of parental controls.

I don't have a problem with it anyway. There's no reason creative devs can't focus on something with more substance.
 
I think this is cool, not because I'm offended by sexual content (come on, why would I be?), but because I've seen some of these apps and I think they're rubbish, in both content and app quality. So I don't know if Apple also is removing them due to their lameness or just because of the sexual content, but either way, I think iPhone apps are just not the right platform for sexual content. It doesn't work well. I did like the boob wobble one, it was fun though...

Oh yeah and about censorship: for one example out of many others, YouTube doesn't allow sexually explicit content either, so, I think it's fair that a big company like YouTube or Apple limits content like that. It just makes sense, you're a serious company, you don't want people talking about porn when talking about you. I actually was surprised in the first place that they allowed such stuff.

This is not the internet: the internet is free and open with no responsibilities. The App Store is Apple alone, they're responsible for everything on it, they want to make it look "serious" so they're free to do so!
 
Poor Porno Apps

Im surprised by how many people support apple's decision to remove these apps. I realize its their decision but its also our right to be able to complain about it.

I wonder what would happen if apple decided to remove all its "explicit" music from its iTunes store. Im sure that would elicit a much different response on this forum and not to mention the rest of this country's view on freedom of expression. People may say that music is art but arent apps also art? People spend time to make something unique and interesting. Curtainly some apps are just crap but there's also alot of music that would also fall into that category.

The app store does have age filtering. I pretty sure ive had to accept that im over 17 years old a least a dozen times during app updates. This is good enough for the rest of the internet which is accessible on far more pervasive and capable machines (notebook/pc). Again let parents parent their children. Apple doesnt need to do this. And if parents dont know how to use the age filtering features on their childrens iphone or dont care to know how to do this, well Im young enough to have experienced the amazing way AOL brought porn into my bed room when i was a teenager and I turned out just fine.


Disclaimer: I love porn. Alot.
 
Define useless: the Apple remote app is useless for ppl not owning that crappy Apple tv.

Anyhow, Apple should make a decent search engine or just purchase one. If actually one could search the app store the way you search elsewhere, no one could care for the useless apps (by just blocking some words in a search).

"-fart" was invented ages ago.

Define crappy: It's not crappy to people who like it.
 
I think this is cool, not because I'm offended by sexual content (come on, why would I be?), but because I've seen some of these apps and I think they're rubbish, in both content and app quality. So I don't know if Apple also is removing them due to their lameness or just because of the sexual content, but either way, I think iPhone apps are just not the right platform for sexual content. It doesn't work well. I did like the boob wobble one, it was fun though...

Oh yeah and about censorship: for one example out of many others, YouTube doesn't allow sexually explicit content either, so, I think it's fair that a big company like YouTube or Apple limits content like that. It just makes sense, you're a serious company, you don't want people talking about porn when talking about you. I actually was surprised in the first place that they allowed such stuff.

This is not the internet: the internet is free and open with no responsibilities. The App Store is Apple alone, they're responsible for everything on it, they want to make it look "serious" so they're free to do so!

And right there is a very valid point......where's all the bitching and moaning about censorship there then? I'm sure you can all get your 'five knuckle shuffle' material elsewhere.

P.S Sorry for not multi-quoting, I didn't spot the second post 'till after I posted.
 
Yep wal-mart won't sell anything remotely close to porn. So this makes apple like an online wal-mart?

The nicer book stores sell full on porn. And these are much nicer places. We have a weird scale going in here.

When you say nicer book stores? and full on porn? I know the BN and Borders don't sell full on porn, IE porn mags, they have playboy. I can't say about porn books, haven't looked but is this what you are referring to?
 
When you say nicer book stores? and full on porn? I know the BN and Borders don't sell full on porn, IE porn mags, they have playboy. I can't say about porn books, haven't looked but is this what you are referring to?

Yeah, can't say I've ever noticed a porn section in my local bookstore.

I'm glad. I'm not a prude and I'm not bothered by porn but I thought it looked cheap and it was a pain whenever it turned up in the top 25 or in searches. It's hard enough to find decent stuff in the app store without a bunch of porn apps turning up. And there were SO MANY of them.

Were any of them even explicit porn? I thought it was all just girls in bikinis, apparently with wobbly boobs. Ooo sexy. :rolleyes:
 
They'd never get rid of Grindr, as it's still iPhone exclusive (although they're supposedly developing for other platforms) it probably attracts more gay users to the iPhone. The app itself has a policy of removing any profile pics deemed offensive and, just like Apple, is sometimes accused by its users of needless censorship. Of course in private, you can send more revealing pics if you choose but anything public will get you banned.

Yes, most people use this app to look for sex (I've not, but who knows what the future will bring), but the public content on the site is not sexual and what two (or more :eek:) consenting adults do in private is their matter.

Are there any hetero equivalents of Grindr in the app store yet? I think they missed an easy opportunity there. It would have been easy for Grindr to support everyone, just ask when first run if you were male/female and interested in men/women/both.

As for the apps that have been pulled they're mostly rubbish and if that's the reason they were pulled it'd be better for them to say so. Most of the apps were not really sexual to begin with.

In the UK we can show boobs in our newspapers, and yes children can buy them
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One of these papers that regularly show uncovered breasts is the Murdoch owned The Sun. Although you'd never see boobs for the sake of it in a decent newspaper - however The Sun is the most popular paper in the UK :)

So obviously this trash sells and some people enjoy it, we need to find a way that it doesn't clutter up the listings for everyone else but does allow those who want it to get it. It's not approaching porn, it's just cheap and tacky entertainment.

Let Apple decide about every aspect of your life. Let them choose your next partner as well.

Well if Apple will choose our partners then they don't need Grindr in the store after all. Many thanks for making our lives easier :apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple:
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Ha! Good luck, fool! Start thumpin your bible, while you send Steve an email. If they were to remove Grindr, guess what, they'd have to remove: MySpace, Facebook (God forbid!!), all instant messaging, and basically any social networking app.Get real.

Good point. I will complain about Facebook and MySpace too. I don't think it is good for kids to be exposed to so many apps that are or can be sexual in nature. I will complain about IM applications because kids can have cyber-sex. In fact, let's get rid of MMS too because kids engage in "sexting" and send naked pictures of themselves. Many of them are under 18 years old so it's also a felony.

Censorship is enforced by the government, not private corporations. Censorship is making it illegal to do or say something. Make sense?

You know nothing about censorship. At all. You should try looking up the term "censor" in a dictionary and then googling the phrase "what is censorship". For example,

Censorship
1. The denial of freedom of speech or freedom of the press.
2. The review of books, movies, etc., to prohibit publication and distribution, usually for reasons of morality or state security.
--Oran's Dictionary of Law
 
You know nothing about censorship. At all. You should try looking up the term "censor" in a dictionary and then googling the phrase "what is censorship". For example,

Censorship
1. The denial of freedom of speech or freedom of the press.
2. The review of books, movies, etc., to prohibit publication and distribution, usually for reasons of morality or state security.
--Oran's Dictionary of Law

Not even close. The "review" in def. 2 is government review; i.e., a prior restraint, not corporate or individual review.
 
While they're at it they should remove GTA: Chinatown Wars, N.O.V.A.,Modern Combat etc...

It's funny, boobs are bad but it's fine to kill random people and sell drugs in GTA:CW! :mad: I hope an angry parent complains about that! "How was my child able to buy this garbage?"

Why doesn't Apple just make and age gate? Seriously? :confused:

Edit: Also to the people calling the apps porn: They weren't porn! Apple wouldn't have approved porn apps in the first place.
 
What the hell is going on !

censorship by the state is regulated very strictly in most of the western countries - freedom of speech, freedom of all institutions and the freedom of press. Apple is going to hurt all these achievements.

p.s. why is hot or not, not removed ? i have seen some bikinis for about 5 minutes ago.
 
If you want porn browse to a site. There are tons of sites made specifically for the iPhone.

There are a ton of useless apps in the AppStore and they just need to be rid of anyways.
The real question is why these apps and why now? If people want to d/l this stuff, and pay for the privilege, that's up to them. What concerns me is that Apple is working on the basis of complaints from prudes who would rather have things banned than avert their eyes.

If the apps contain copyright material, fair enough they should be pulled...but then they shouldn't really have been approved in the first place! But wobble seems fairly innocuous in a puerile kind of way.

I guess my concern is over who dictates what we can and cannot see*, and where this takes us.

* outside Apples normal operating rules for the appstore
 
While they're at it they should remove GTA: Chinatown Wars, N.O.V.A.,Modern Combat etc...

It's funny, boobs are bad but it's fine to kill random people and sell drugs in GTA:CW! :mad: I hope an angry parent complains about that! "How was my child able to buy this garbage?"

Why doesn't Apple just make and age gate? Seriously? :confused:

Edit: Also to the people calling the apps porn: They weren't porn! Apple wouldn't have approved porn apps in the first place.


People have always been this way, killing good, loving bad, boobies bad, butts bad. We all know that purity can only be achieved by purging that bad, and embracing the good. I love Modern Warfare AND Boobies, does that make me confused? ;)

Apple should just say, "If you want to seen half naked men or women, click the safari icon" and then we can be done with this. On the other hand, Apple with all of their money they should be able to come up with something that meets most peoples needs....hmmm.....I guess that is what they did didn't they.
 
I guess my concern is over who dictates what we can and cannot see*, and where this takes us.

* outside Apples normal operating rules for the appstore


In the U.S.? Ultimately, The S.Ct. has the final say on what "speech" can be regulated, and to what degree (not all speech is equal), according to the U.S. Constitution. As example, see the various Internet indecency laws passed by congress in the '90s and '00s, signed by the president, and then overturned by the S.Ct.

But none of that matters here. Apple isn't the gov't and they can control nearly every aspect of its store.

What people can't seem to get their head around here is that the 1st Amendment only pertains to how Government restricts speech, not private individuals or entities.
 
People have always been this way, killing good, loving bad, boobies bad, butts bad. We all know that purity can only be achieved by purging that bad, and embracing the good. I love Modern Warfare AND Boobies, does that make me confused? ;)

Apple should just say, "If you want to seen half naked men or women, click the safari icon" and then we can be done with this. On the other hand, Apple with all of their money they should be able to come up with something that meets most peoples needs....hmmm.....I guess that is what they did didn't they.

I guess...:) I'll never understand why violence is okay. I've never purchased any of those apps. But I think people should have the option. From my understanding they were just childish boob apps. Something only a 13 year old boy could get pleasure from...or a really pathetic man! But you're right...I guess Jr. will just get his fix from Safari now!
 
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