OVERPRICED MACBOOKS

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by 4ppleg1rl, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. 4ppleg1rl macrumors regular

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    I can't be the only one who thinks the Touchbar MacBook Pro is SERIOUSLY overpriced. Most of them are, but this one especially. You can't tell me that a laptop with a gimmicky, unnecessary touch bar is really worth nearly £2500?

    I just feel like Apple are honestly going crazy with their pricing. Or is it me?
     
  2. jerryk macrumors 601

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    Then buy something else. Plenty of Windows based laptops without the touch bar and with user up-gradable SSDs and memory for a lot less. When you limit yourself to one manufacturer you have to pay what that manufacturer wants.
     
  3. 4ppleg1rl thread starter macrumors regular

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    I think you missed the point. I'm not buying anything, I'm just questioning Apple's pricing. I think it's getting ridiculous and I wanted to know if others felt the same way or if they think it's really worth that amount of money.
     
  4. yukari macrumors 6502

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    I think Apple's prices are high also. But they have monopoly on using their OS. So they can effectively charge as high as they want as long as there are enough people willing to pay for them.
     
  5. 4ppleg1rl thread starter macrumors regular

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    I don't disagree with that. How do people justify spending £2k+ on a laptop though? I mean, they're beautiful and Mac OS wipes out Windows easily so I can understand paying a high enough price, but £2000 is sort of ridiculous imo
     
  6. zone23 macrumors 68000

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    Little late to the party we all said this when it was released how many months ago? Also I believe you are referring to the MacBook Pro not the Macbook (the title says MacBook).
     
  7. 4ppleg1rl thread starter macrumors regular

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    Das wot I said?

    And to be clear, I specifically used that one as an example, but all Apple computers of any sort are seriously overpriced.
     
  8. jerryk macrumors 601

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    I have not purchased the 2016 and 2017 MBPs since I have a perfectly fine 2015 MBP. But, others feel they are worth the money and buy them, so great for them. And really who cares. People buy every Porsche or Ferrari built, Burberry coats for $2,000+, handbags for $1000, and pay $4/day for lattes. It is all about what you want and can afford.
     
  9. Audit13 macrumors 601

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    With a monopoly, you have to pay to play, so to speak.

    From a buyer point of view, the prices are high.

    From a shareholder point of view, they are fine.
     
  10. leman macrumors G3

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    Dunno, seems to be fairly typical of a laptop in this category.

    E.g. refreshed Dell XPS 13" with 256GB SSD is same price (it does come with more RAM and the newer CPUs though), the Microsoft Surface Book is $1,899 for a 8GB/256GB SSD, so more expensive (with a slower CPU), and Lenovo X1 is only slightly cheaper, but also has significantly lower specs. No matter what you look at, if you want a decent quality business notebook, you will probably end up spending around $2000 no matter which brand you pick. And Apple generally tends to cut less corners here than competition (e.g. full bandwidth thunderbolt, better WiFi chips etc.).

    Is it expensive? Sure. It is overpriced? I'd say no, since its rather hard to get the same config for less.
     
  11. noteple macrumors 65816

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    Machine
    Stores
    Support
    Warranty
    OS
    Applications
    Right On The Money

    Ps Loading the Latest OS and Apps For Free On My 2010 Refurbed Air
    Threw out my wife’s 2010 Compaq stuck on Vista
     
  12. neteng101 macrumors 65816

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    That's because you're paying for healthcare and extra warranty coverage, etc in the price of goods in the UK... and not just buying a laptop. There's no such thing as free - you want all these extras, its going to cost you one way or another.
     
  13. TheAppleFairy macrumors 68020

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    They are not cheap that's for sure.

    -Sent from my 2017 15" MBP with Touchbar.
     
  14. ZapNZs macrumors 68020

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    Value is in the eye of the beholder. Indeed they are pricy tools.

    But I'm less interested in what the computer costs relative to which computer will make me the most amount of money. For most cases, the MacBook/MacBook Pro lines fit the bill, and that's why I can personally justify the expenditure.
     
  15. UBS28 macrumors 6502a

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    They are seriously overpriced when the 2017 15” MBP is only 11% faster than my 2013 Haswell 15” MBP.

    And my iPad even wins on GPU benchmarks over the 2017 13” MBP while having similar speed in CPU.

    Obviously not buying a MBP untill they make a big performance jump.

    I had no idea that when I bought the 2013 15” MBP, it is the best MBP ever created since after 4 years it still almost as fast as the 2017 15” MBP.
     
  16. Queen6 macrumors 604

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    Pricing is comparable, difference Apple don't discount. I've just bought a Windows OEM 15.6" notebook and it's pricing is right up there with Apple, offering more performance in a larger chassis, equally thats what I need. Also very much depends on the usage; for some there is zero return on the hardware, for others the hardware is a significant component of their income, therefore the perspective differs. For me faster, more reliable hardware & software in general equals better returns.

    If you want to get into big numbers price out a portable Workstation from the likes of Dell, HP, or Lenovo which can easily be 2-3 time the price of a max'd out 15" MBP, or even the higher end gaming notebook, which in some instances are viable replacements to Workstations...

    Q-6
     
  17. bopajuice Suspended

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    The more I read on these forums the more I feel that Apple is just a "status" product. People will pay a premium to have a status symbol.
     
  18. Absrnd macrumors 6502a

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    So are the clothes on your back, the shoes you wear, and the watch on your wrist,
    you could have bought a $3,- shirt but you chose a more expensive one, because it looks nice.
     
  19. bopajuice Suspended

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    Maybe there was time but not anymore. I recently bought a $60 t-shirt at Nordstrom's, and five t-shirts at Old Navy for $30. Guess which ones I wear more.

    And BTW, I recently chose a Garmin Fenix 3 over an iWatch. Function over status.
     
  20. leman macrumors G3

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    Apple laptops are precision engineered tools with premium components and great support. If you see them as "status symbol" only, then probably you don't need this kind of tool to begin with. Its the same as with anything else really.

    We buy MacBook Pro's because they offer us amazing value for money. They are unix computers, which offer us excellent tools to do our jobs and integrate seamlessly into our software ecosystem. They are versatile, lightweight (since we are constantly on the road between conferences, teaching and meetings) and offer great battery. They are simple to configure and require only minimal maintenance, which means less downtime and less money spent on support.

    Again, for you home user who just needs a facebook machine or a laptop to manage a photo collection, the perspective might be very different. Just as it doesn't make much sense for me to buy an expensive hammer drill tool for my home. Don't project your situation on everyone's else.
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    Performance is not everything and synthetic benchmarks won't tell you the whole story. The 2016 machine was around 20% faster than the 2015 one for my real-world work. And you are neglecting other improvements like the storage performance, the display etc. etc. They might not mean much to you (again, see my post above), but they are there and they cost money.
     
  21. sparkie7 macrumors 68020

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    Hey bro, someone has to pay for the shiny new offices and campus. And yes, that's us :D
     
  22. Mortis360 macrumors regular

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    I got my 2016 MBP with 20% discount when I ordered it, so the price were not that bad for me, it was cheaper than a simmilar Dell XPS 15 at that point. One more thing is the software library I have built up during the years to macOS. To replace that and switch over to Windows would cost me in the area of about $800 - $1200 in new licenses, thats also a thing to consider if you got alot of software and thinking about switching platform.
     
  23. smallcoffee macrumors 68000

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    It depends. My computer is my life - my work. Without one I don’t work or do a lot of the things I enjoy. The price is getting a little steep - but for me it’s not an issue when annualized over 4 years or so.

    I could get a laptop from some other manufacturer and drop Linux on it but I don’t have to and it’s not as good of an experience for me.
     
  24. jackoatmon macrumors 6502a

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    I find them to be underpriced, personally. All depends upon your job I guess. And I'm not saying I'm rich or anything. It's just, if it's your main tool, $5k is nothing for 5 years of performance. Compare to a landscaper who needs to buy a $60k pickup truck to do gardening, and get paid 1/2 what a freelance graphic designer makes on one of these.
     
  25. The Mercurian macrumors 68000

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    I'll hazard a guess the people defending prices are talkign aobut US$ pricing, those aghast are from outside the US. Certainly the Euro and Pound pricing has gone insane and is way out of step with the competition and the US pricing.
     

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