I think they are all Ivy Bridge-E? So, other than cache and Turbo characteristics, single core speeds should be comparable.
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OWC Debuts First Intel Xeon Processor Upgrades for 2013 Mac Pro
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I think they are all Ivy Bridge-E? So, other than cache and Turbo characteristics, single core speeds should be comparable.
>"up to 31 percent more affordable"
This line made me think the post was a joke. I can't see any way that this is or could be even remotely true.
This line made me think the post was a joke. I can't see any way that this is or could be even remotely true.
Quite the opposite. This is how those that use their computer to make money spend their money. The opposite being the person that buys a Mac Pro base model just because it's fast, but uses it for email, web, and games.
No, they were definitely crying about upgradability. Expandability too, of course. As usual, they were crying about everything...
hmm seem rather expensive to me! But then again I would just buy a CPU and stick it in there. Looking at the 8 core seems the best.
Sigh... I hate it when MacRumors posts Mac Pro story's, it just makes me want one even more
Give me the standard 6 core with the dual D700's and I'll be happy, I'll just stick my SSD in a thunderbolt enclosure for extra storage.
Sigh... I hate it when MacRumors posts Mac Pro story's, it just makes me want one even more
Give me the standard 6 core with the dual D700's and I'll be happy, I'll just stick my SSD in a thunderbolt enclosure for extra storage.
This is great news.
But let's hope we will still be able to do this in 3 years when someone will really need to upgrade this machine.
Are we sure future Xeon chips will use this same socket?
I know Intel's consumer chips change sockets every few years and require a whole new motherboard.
I'm not familiar with the Xeon family though....
But let's hope we will still be able to do this in 3 years when someone will really need to upgrade this machine.
Are we sure future Xeon chips will use this same socket?
I know Intel's consumer chips change sockets every few years and require a whole new motherboard.
I'm not familiar with the Xeon family though....
The upcoming Haswell-E will use 2011-3 socket which is incompatible with 2011. Not sure when Xeons will use this. I remember seeing something about an E3 v3 or something along those lines but I can't remember what socket it used. I think the dual CPU ones tend to a few behind.
They're talking about thermal and power specifications released by Apple, which is only typically done for sanctioned upgrades. Ditto on "Apple Certified technicians." You typically aren't allowed to advertise that unless you're doing Apple sanctioned repairs that don't void warranty.
We know months ago the CPU could be upgraded.
I think your missing the point completely about the "upgradability" of the nMP.
maybe 1,500 is all they have...i mean many people who have low end MP can't afford nMP ..so they have to go to alternative means for staying current...otherwise..they will be forced to buy pc...HAHAH
Your post reminds me of an old Steve Martin quote:
I love money. I love everything about it. I bought some pretty good stuff. Got me a $300 pair of socks. Got a fur sink. An electric dog polisher. A gasoline powered turtleneck sweater. And, of course, I bought some dumb stuff, too.
Happy there is a computer out there for the folks who need it.
Where is the ability of upgrade GPU? Where is ability to upgrade the motherboard? Where is the ability to upgrade SSD at affordable price? This is just not as upgradeable as my awesome gaming rig... PEROID.
Regarding Warranty
Here is the statement from OWC regarding Warranty:
OWC will assist/fulfill the Mac Pro factory warranty, as well parts and labor, for all OWC installed enhancements. The warranty term start date is based on the serial number of your Mac Pro, and the Apple recorded date of sale for the machine upgraded.
1 year included in base price or $199 for up to 3 years.
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It is not exactly clear that Apple blesses this upgrade, or that Apple will service the upgraded computer. I read this as OWC now being responsible for the warranty.
Do read the extensive FAQ here: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/turnkey/MacPro2013/2013_Xeon_Processor/Apple_Mac_Pro_2013/faq
My interpretation: no Apple service, no Apple Care, and no service except by OWC technicians
Here is the statement from OWC regarding Warranty:
OWC will assist/fulfill the Mac Pro factory warranty, as well parts and labor, for all OWC installed enhancements. The warranty term start date is based on the serial number of your Mac Pro, and the Apple recorded date of sale for the machine upgraded.
1 year included in base price or $199 for up to 3 years.
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It is not exactly clear that Apple blesses this upgrade, or that Apple will service the upgraded computer. I read this as OWC now being responsible for the warranty.
Do read the extensive FAQ here: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/turnkey/MacPro2013/2013_Xeon_Processor/Apple_Mac_Pro_2013/faq
My interpretation: no Apple service, no Apple Care, and no service except by OWC technicians
The Mac Pro isn't a gaming rig, it's a workstation... just clearing that up...
For all those asking, yes, you can do this yourself. I watched a great how to video a month or so ago where they tear one down and upgrade the CPU to a 10 core. I think this offering is just for the faint of heart. Much better to do it yourself and sell your old processor.
Don't think you could swap it back in and still get warranty coverage. I think with all the screws needing to be removed, somewhere you would scuff one and they would catch it when they were working on it.
Oh, and aren't the GPUs offered pretty impressive already? I suspect that this workstation would make a pretty sweet gaming machine if you were looking at spending $10k on one.
Don't think you could swap it back in and still get warranty coverage. I think with all the screws needing to be removed, somewhere you would scuff one and they would catch it when they were working on it.
Oh, and aren't the GPUs offered pretty impressive already? I suspect that this workstation would make a pretty sweet gaming machine if you were looking at spending $10k on one.
None of this is news. People could get the chips themselves and upgrade their Mac Pros themselves. It's a standard socket.
Now, let me know when somebody has a GPU upgrade available.
Now, let me know when somebody has a GPU upgrade available.
Intel Xeon E5-2650 v2 8-Core 2.6GHz with 20MB Cache, 25% faster, $1498
New Egg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116931
$1,299.99 (Plus keep/sell the stock processor)
Intel Xeon E5-2690 v2 10-Core 3.0GHz with 25MB Cache, 45% faster, $2396
New Egg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116927
$2,149.99 (Plus keep/sell the stock processor)
Intel Xeon E5-2697 v2 12-Core 2.7GHz with 30MB Cache, 46% faster, $2978
New Egg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116925
$2,749.99 (Plus keep/sell the stock processor)
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Name one other "workstation" which is less internally expandable...
You forget the target market. A person who owns this machine and uses it for real work and can't afford to take time off and mess with a computer.
There is also the problem of the warranty. If you do it yourself then there is no warranty but of OWC does it then OWC provides you with their warranty.
Many people don't want to hand a $1000+ chip that can get zapped with static or get a pin bent.
Mostly they were just crying-- and then justifying it with FUD.Weren't people crying over no upgradability before?
I don't expect this, or any other facts really, to change that behavior.
Any of the classic Sun SPARCs
But why one earth would anyone ant their data to be inside a workstation. You want the data to be available across your network and usable at any of the workstations.