Try clicking the links?
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78582/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-v2-Family/server
Look up the processors that Apple offer and read the TDP values, you'll see that Apple are shipping processors up to 130W TDP.
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OWC Debuts First Intel Xeon Processor Upgrades for 2013 Mac Pro
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Try clicking the links?
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78582/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-v2-Family/server
Look up the processors that Apple offer and read the TDP values, you'll see that Apple are shipping processors up to 130W TDP.
Will OWC pay the lawyers to "protect" their customers when Apple refuses coverage?
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OWC is interested to earn money, not to spend it. Obviously!
They will gladly sell you a new mother in law if you are ready to pay for her
However I highly doubt that Apple will continue to cover their mMPs after OWC exchanged the CPUs by "highly skilled Apple technicians" ...not working for Apple but for OWC (little detail).
If someone doesn't care about Apple's coverage, he is free to modify and exchange anything in any Apple product in any free country in the world.
Apple cannot and will not stop him, why should they?
However if he still wants that Apple fully covers that product, who will pay the lawyers to battle against Apple, OWC?
Besides these obvious facts, as someone already pointed out in another thread, even if any user managed not to void his coverage by Apple by some kind of extraordinary means I cannot figure out... how can any normal user prove if later something does not work any longer in his nMP, that the exchange made by a company not agreed by Apple is not linked with that problem?
I am curious to hear what happens to the first courageous (crazy in my humble opinion) owner of a nMP who takes all these risks (and pays all that money!).
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OWC is interested to earn money, not to spend it. Obviously!
They will gladly sell you a new mother in law if you are ready to pay for her
However I highly doubt that Apple will continue to cover their mMPs after OWC exchanged the CPUs by "highly skilled Apple technicians" ...not working for Apple but for OWC
(little detail).If someone doesn't care about Apple's coverage, he is free to modify and exchange anything in any Apple product in any free country in the world.
Apple cannot and will not stop him, why should they?
However if he still wants that Apple fully covers that product, who will pay the lawyers to battle against Apple, OWC?
Besides these obvious facts, as someone already pointed out in another thread, even if any user managed not to void his coverage by Apple by some kind of extraordinary means I cannot figure out... how can any normal user prove if later something does not work any longer in his nMP, that the exchange made by a company not agreed by Apple is not linked with that problem?
I am curious to hear what happens to the first courageous (crazy in my humble opinion) owner of a nMP who takes all these risks (and pays all that money!).
I like the idea that there is an option to keep a 2013 Mac Pro comparable to the performance of newer models a few years in the future.
Upgrades, yes.
But the Apple Limited warranty is voided (at Apple's discretion), so the only warranty protection comes from OWC (and it specifically excludes the original SSD).
Interesting move by OWC! I thought they would have waited at least a year to make sure there were no systematic problems before deciding to cover it with their own warranty but then again the type of people needing/wanting this upgrade would be of a different rank.
Sure Amazon is selling them for about 1300 shipped. I'd rather pay the additional money to have it done by someone. Rather than take the chance of something happening during the install and being out the cost of the CPU and possibly the whole computer. If some freak thing happens to it while OWC is doing the install to bad for them, if it happens to me I'm out a boat load of cash.
The problem is that there's likely a socket change in store for the next round of Xeons that Apple will use in the next update. So upgrades are limited to the processors that you can get now.
I'm surprised someone doesn't offer the same upgrades for iPhones/iPads.
Send in the low memory model; they unsolder and replace the memory, change the hardware ID and now you have the highest memory product for a fraction of the price.
The unsolder part is why....
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True but these will be around for some years from now. When you want to go from the quad core you bought today to a 12 core OWC will be there waiting for you.... hand outstretched.
I am a hater. I hate that people think they can aligning themselves with a large corporate organization and then take personal pride or credit for the accomplishments or triumphs of that organization. In that scenario, you are nothing. What was it that you wrote?, Apology accepted.
Dear goodness me, not again!!! How many times has this been debunked?
Credit to TruthFinder on this link:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fZn2
And his notes: Now, is this a match-for-match to a MacPro? No, it is not. It doesn't have a motherboard with ECC Ram, and the Ram isn't ECC. The motherboard might not fit in the case, and the motherboard might not handle the Thunderbolt cards, and the power supply might not have enough wattage. Plus, the D300 isn't as good as a W7000, but I just did a quick job, and not too much research on this.
Who cares what it's clocked at if the 10 core, which is cheaper is also a few % faster. We stopped caring about clock rates back in the P4 days.
There's nothing to "debunk." A DIY build is vastly different than the Mac Pro. However, don't think that means you can't achieve equal or better performance for possibly less money.
To save $500 or so versus just buying the one you need now - these upgrades make no sense to me to do today... With the Apple Business discount it makes even less sense!
3 years from now when your quad core isn't cutting it and you can up it to 8 or 12 (hopefully for less than these prices) - sure. But I would price out selling your old and buying new at that time...
3 years from now when your quad core isn't cutting it and you can up it to 8 or 12 (hopefully for less than these prices) - sure. But I would price out selling your old and buying new at that time...
Errrr, except the ARM family of processors isnt even remotely ready to be put into Macs up to and including the Mac Pro. They do not have required number of cores, core speed, cache size, performance or features needed for use as a general-purpose processor.
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Well you would compare the thermal stats of the CPU you are removing with those of the CPU you are installing....If you're installing a processor which outputs the same, or less heat than the one from Apple, why do you need information from Apple?
"A DIY build is vastly different than the Mac Pro."
Agreed! That makes the commenter's point moot in my mind from the get go.
But then they went on to insinuate that you could get the same server grade parts in a PC build for "far lower cost." and that's where I had to just put the parts list out there.
Personally, I think the vast difference in form factor alone would mean that you've already got something unachievable in the DIY realm and I wish they'd just leave that argument alone. Whether or not the less power needed / much more portable form factor is a plus for the user is another debate entirely.
I don't know why people get so angry when they are so anti-Apple and they turn out to be wrong. It's laughable how people spend so much time and energy hating a company and/or product because they can't afford it, or it's better than what they currently use.
If you had even bothered to go to their website you would know they give you MORE money if it more than just the BASE processor.... Way to not do ANY research. Besides who's going to use this upgrade path other than those with a 4 or 6 core processors. If you already have can 8, then there is very little advantage of going to a 10 or 12.
My heart is saddened by today's youth.....
Edit: And the 6 core process or is less than $600 at MSRP (which no one would actually pay)
http://ark.intel.com/products/75780/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1650-v2-12M-Cache-3_50-GHz
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Well you probably shouldn't have because it matters when comparing processors of the same architecture by the same manufacturer...
First time on the internet?The hackintosh users are just a fringe who would be better off building something else anyway. Most professionals who can afford a Mac Pro would have no problem upgrading every few years. Surely, you can set aside 1% of your income you're going to write off anyway.
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I did a quick search and created a list based on his. The motherboard is ECC compatible, the RAM is ECC and the W7000 have twice the RAM. I don't have as many thunderbolt ports as a Mac Pro but that's what daisy chaining is for right?
Plus I have an absolute crapload more flexibility and upgradability.
Motherboard: Asus P9X79-E WS $464.99
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Intel-Mo...B00CFCTJ3K/ref=psdc9_t2_B007J5MBN8_B00CFCTJ3K
Provides:
2 x Gigabit Ethernet LAN
4 x USB 3.0
4 x PCI-E x16
3 x PCI-E x8
6 x SATA 3
4 x SATA 2
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2609 V2 2.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $300
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=E52609V2BX&c=CJ
RAM: CRUCIAL 4GB 1866 ECC RAM x 3 $172 (12GB Total)
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT4G3W186DM
Storage: Asus ROG 240GB PCI-E Solid State Disk $350
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na
Power Supply: Corsair HX750W 750-Watt Modular Power Supply $150
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...ffiliateID=8BacdVP0GFs-_9zqUvwEmbrdYg3CjIMz6Q
Case: Lian Li PC-A55B $89.00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LIAN-LI...2900?pt=US_Computer_Cases&hash=item27ce3436a4
Graphics: AMD FirePro W7000 x 2 $1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195118
Thunderbolt: : Asus Thunderboltexii x 2 $136
WiFi ac/Bluetooth 4.0: GIGABYTE GC-WB867D-I $31.41
http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GC-WB867D-I-Exclusive-Bluetooth-Expansion/dp/B00I2Z1P18
140mm Fan: $20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O6519A/?tag=pcpapi-20
Total = $3314
More expensive, but not nearly as bad as the pricing you quoted. As soon as you start adding extras, its gets very expensive, very quickly on the Mac Pro.
Let max out the CPU to 12 cores and RAM to 64GB on the base model...
Price: $7799
My Price: $6464
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116925
RAM: http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT2K8G3W186DM
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thing is, these days, a 'warranty' is a product..
it should be that companies have a warranty as a means to guarantee the products they are selling aren't crap..
but the way it's become- the warranty is something a buyer pays extra for and the company profits off this 'product'..
in a roundAbout way, a company makes more money if they sell products in which ,say, 1 out of 10 will break and need to be repaired/replaced by the company... the other 9/10 are still paying warranty money that goes unused in the repair department which in turn becomes profit for the company.
the companies should take a loss or be penalized for selling a faulty product.. instead, they've found a way to be rewarded..
but people just keep on buying these 'warranties' so obviously, the companies are going to just keep on selling them.
[and basically, they exploit a buyer's fear in order to sell this b.s]