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Palm Opens Up Mojo SDK to All App Developers
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Type of apps...
Does anyone know what kind of apps are possible on the Pre? Having never been able to play with one, I have no idea what they can do.
Can you write programs like eWallet, iSSH, Google Earth, FAA Test Prep, Crayon Physics, Enigmo, AutoStitch, Brushes?
Does anyone know what kind of apps are possible on the Pre? Having never been able to play with one, I have no idea what they can do.
Can you write programs like eWallet, iSSH, Google Earth, FAA Test Prep, Crayon Physics, Enigmo, AutoStitch, Brushes?
OS is based on Linux but the SDK is based on web standards such as Jscript/HTML/XML, etc. Some apps are granted low level access to code natively but most will run as local web apps - hence the name webOS.
The advantage to this is the ease to program/develop. Pandora took a few weeks to develop for the iPhone, took them 48 hours to make one for Pre. In other Pre forums, users have already started a homebrew development movement and people are churning out useful apps left and right.
It appeals to web developers that didn't know enough to code for iPhone. Should be interesting what comes out of this.
surprising all the positive things being said about the pre.
apple needs this, yes they do; hopefully pre does phenomenally well and forces apple to up it's game.
apple needs this, yes they do; hopefully pre does phenomenally well and forces apple to up it's game.
Because there aren't 5,000 quality apps. for the iPhone?
And I would have to say that more apps. is better. More apps. draws more people to iPhone. More people with iPhones draws more quality developers. It's called a tipping point. And it is already happening. Not that other phones won't be viable, just that iPhone has some huge momentum going for it.
Love your Pre for whatever reasons you purchased it, just as others love their iPhones for whatever their reasons are!
I agree. As more people adopt the iPhone so to will the quality of developers increase and the quality of apps go up. We have passed the low hanging fruit apps period of the process and are starting to see some really solid apps. Some of them are small and others are pretty big like the slingmedia Yes it was crippled by AT$T but still developers see the iPhone as a no brainer out let for their creations.
Healthy competition is always good and I am glad to see the Pre open its SDK. It will push developers to make better and more useful or fun apps.
As a previous iPhone owner/user and now a Pre owner, I find it amusing that MacRumors posts all Palm Pre related news. If that's not an acknowledgment of a true iPhone competitor...I don't know what is
Btw...this whole argument of more apps is better is stupid. You can have 50,000 apps of which 49,000 are complete garbage or you can have 5,000 quality apps. I'd rather have the latter. Makes it less of a nightmare to find the good stuff. Let's see how things pan out but people need to get over the # of apps on iPhone. Means nothing.
Amen to that. I thought long and hard about Pre vs. iPhone 3Gs before deciding on the iPhone 3Gs. One major factor for me was that Sprint's "Now" Network means your voice mail gets to tell your callers "sorry I'm on the internet NOW, but I will return your call later". Not that the Pre can't handle voice and data "multi-tasking" but Sprint's network seriously hampers your multi-tasking capability.
HOWEVER, I must say that "number of apps" played no role in my decision. I bought my wife an iPod Touch for Christmas and we tried out the iPhone apps for a while. I found that navigating the app store can be like wading through a swamp to find gold. What matters is "quality of apps", and it is my opinion that iPhone has only recently gotten there for productivity-centric users in the past year. For media-centric users iPhone has been tops since the start, but the things I've wanted were:
- a good calendar / to-do app (PocketInformant)
- GPS navigation (tomtom on its way)
- decent shopping lists (grocery gadget)
- decent mobile office documents (docs-to-go)
- IM with push (beejive)
- nutrition/diet tracker (shroomies nutrition menu)
Anyhow, I feel that the stuff appearing in the app store in the last 3-4 months has been fantastic. Personally, I don't care what kind of bird is sitting in that tree (that app-store commercial always made me laugh). Either way, Palm has some catching up to do. As the iPhone has shown, it takes time for a platform to win mind share and for the developers to gain momentum in developing for that platform.
As a previous iPhone owner/user and now a Pre owner, I find it amusing that MacRumors posts all Palm Pre related news. If that's not an acknowledgment of a true iPhone competitor...I don't know what is
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...smells like a troll bait...
... yup... troll bait.
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(fyi, i loveproducts, and use them all the time...but i don't like fanboys)
... and this explains why you hang around this site?
Probably the same thing iPhone users said once they saw their store get filled w/crap.
Probably the same number of people that buy PC software and expect it to work on their Mac.
You could always just buy one of the readily available third part apps that gives you much more Mac sync functionality than what the Pre has out of the box. If I was staying 'tied' to a desktop machine I'd definitely grab a third party app as the out-of-the-box iTunes syncing is just 'meh' IMO.
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Err perhaps I'm missing something here... Please correct me if I'm wrong.
iPhone is released with web "apps" only (remember those safari only things with an icon on the springboard) and no proper SDK. The world goes wild and predicts this iPhone thing will go nowhere and will burn in hell.
Now the Pre comes along and does exactly the same thing and everyone says "oh a Web OS is soo great because we can develop web applications"
?!?
iPhone is released with web "apps" only (remember those safari only things with an icon on the springboard) and no proper SDK. The world goes wild and predicts this iPhone thing will go nowhere and will burn in hell.
Now the Pre comes along and does exactly the same thing and everyone says "oh a Web OS is soo great because we can develop web applications"
?!?
Gotta love how Palm made the SDK and emulator available for Linux, Mac and Windows. (Sorry if that choice thingie confused some people here )
They should allow applications to use native API like Android did recently and we have one heck of a platform to develop on.
Irresistible urge to try out building an app or two to understand how much powerful the webOS APIs really are.
)They should allow applications to use native API like Android did recently and we have one heck of a platform to develop on.
Irresistible urge to try out building an app or two to understand how much powerful the webOS APIs really are.
Nobody said you needed to use iTunes. However, a lot of people use iTunes because they have an iPod or just to use the iTunes store on their computer. Some of these same people will be/are Pre customers. Hopefully you never plan on wanting/getting a new feature in iTunes while still syncing it with your Pre since you are very content with the already outdated 8.2 and are currently stuck from upgrading to a newer version.
I want to see some competition with the iPhone, but at the same time I really want to see Palm crumble. I am still really pissed about how I got burnt with the 700p.
Your definition of troll bait is me providing an opinion that doesn't agree with your own? I didn't know differing opinions were frowned upon...oh wait, that's right...you're an Apple fanboy.
That may be true but apart from iPhone and App Store functionality what have been the major drastic improvements between iTunes 7 and 8? I have a 5G iPod and iTunes 8.2 works perfectly. I don't anticipate any future iTunes being needed since there's not much they can do at this point!
Err perhaps I'm missing something here... Please correct me if I'm wrong.
iPhone is released with web "apps" only (remember those safari only things with an icon on the springboard) and no proper SDK. The world goes wild and predicts this iPhone thing will go nowhere and will burn in hell.
Now the Pre comes along and does exactly the same thing and everyone says "oh a Web OS is soo great because we can develop web applications"
?!?
webOS app and iPhone 1.0 web apps are two different things. webOS apps run locally on the phone, without being constrained in the browser. The webOS gives the apps access to standardized UI widgets, and access to selected device hardware and services (like the Accelerometer for example) unlike the browser only Web Apps for the iPhone.
The webOS apps are native - only thing web about them is that they are written using standard JavaScript/CSS/HTML.
Your definition of troll bait is me providing an opinion that doesn't agree with your own? I didn't know differing opinions were frowned upon...oh wait, that's right...you're an Apple fanboy.
right on.
Err perhaps I'm missing something here... Please correct me if I'm wrong.
iPhone is released with web "apps" only (remember those safari only things with an icon on the springboard) and no proper SDK. The world goes wild and predicts this iPhone thing will go nowhere and will burn in hell.
Now the Pre comes along and does exactly the same thing and everyone says "oh a Web OS is soo great because we can develop web applications"
?!?
People seriously underestimated how much you can do with web technologies, and still do. You can even use the GPS from a basic website now. There are a lot of apps on the app store that could/should be web apps.
However, Palm's SDK is web technologies plus some access to hardware features, so you can do a bit more with it than you can with web apps on other platforms. It's kind of like PhoneGap or Appcellerator for iPhone/Android development - web technologies with hardware access.
Personally, I think device info should be standardized for web apps in general - you can request location information with javascript now, but what about device orientation, tilt, camera, and mic? It would be awesome to be able to write a web app that anyone could go to on their desktop or phone and have it work. You could even play super monkey ball by tilting your laptop! If hardware info were more accessible via web technologies, the web would be a much cooler place (and Flash would die an even quicker death).
Life's too short to read the comments, that's what I always say. Then I read them anyway. But life is definitely too short to argue pointlessly in the comments. Arguing about whether or not you are trolling has the same diluting effect as trolling.
Like what? Broken copy and Paste? Poor battery life? A non-native SDK of web apps? Apple had that two years ago.
Broken copy and paste? Why is it broken? Have you even used a Pre?
Poor battery life? Yes, not like iPhone 3G or iPhone 3GS has any battery life issues at all
non-native SDK of web apps? You obviously don't understand how webOS works. It's native apps but the language is based on web standards...the apps are native just like iPhone apps.
