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Palm Opens Up Mojo SDK to All App Developers
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Back to the slow Mac days
We have to go back just a short distance in time & see what was said when Windows had millions of apps & the Mac only had a few hundred. It was always said that al you need is 1 or 2 good spreadsheets, word processors, or other program, all others were just a waste. Why would this not also be true about the iPod Touch/iPhone group of programs?
im an avid iphone user..but i totally agree with you.
there is a TOP of CRAP in the app store.
who gives a crap if there is 49,000+ crappy apps...
wait, apparently apple fanboys do!
(fyi, i loveproducts, and use them all the time...but i don't like fanboys)
We have to go back just a short distance in time & see what was said when Windows had millions of apps & the Mac only had a few hundred. It was always said that al you need is 1 or 2 good spreadsheets, word processors, or other program, all others were just a waste. Why would this not also be true about the iPod Touch/iPhone group of programs?
Palm Pre problems
I actually purchased a Pre in hopes of porting games that I created for the iPhone. The Sprint experience was OK...but activation just never happened..I did get to play with it....I was not at all impressed....it was crap in my opinion.....I hated the keyboard....if people want to buy it, by all means feel free.....I don't play the "my phone is better than your phone" games....based on my experience, I think this is the end for Palm...its to bad, they were a good company at one time, they just simply got outpaced...it happens in this industry; perhaps a better company will take a shot at the "iPhone Killer" product because the Pre is certainly not in the same league as the iPhone nor should it even be compared.....they should compare themselves to the Storm.
I'm a decent ball player, but I'd never compare myself to Michael Jordan. Palm made a huge mistake.
I actually purchased a Pre in hopes of porting games that I created for the iPhone. The Sprint experience was OK...but activation just never happened..I did get to play with it....I was not at all impressed....it was crap in my opinion.....I hated the keyboard....if people want to buy it, by all means feel free.....I don't play the "my phone is better than your phone" games....based on my experience, I think this is the end for Palm...its to bad, they were a good company at one time, they just simply got outpaced...it happens in this industry; perhaps a better company will take a shot at the "iPhone Killer" product because the Pre is certainly not in the same league as the iPhone nor should it even be compared.....they should compare themselves to the Storm.
I'm a decent ball player, but I'd never compare myself to Michael Jordan. Palm made a huge mistake.
Agree.
Apple always claimed that G5 processor was fastest.
Until they switch to Intel themselves. And suddenly became 5x faster than before.
Total PR BS.
"I am rich" from Apple for just $999 anyone?
I like the Pre more than I like the iPhone, but unlike you I don't think of my choice of cellular technology defines me. It's just something I prefer. (Although many of you, I'm sure, feel that it should be a ban worthy offense.)
Do you really go through life thinking you're on the team of some corporation? If so, realize how absurdly pathetic that is.
Seriously? Who are you? I never understand the mentality of fanboys...blindly defending a brand/company that could care less about you and spreading BS that makes you look even more clueless.
Wow, the Pre has build problems...I guess your godly iPhone never had/have those right?
Check out the Apple discussion forums sometime...it'll open your eyes.Also, nice that you have 500,000 apps to choose from...
If the amount of work and time fanboys put into their posts went towards helping the needy or finding the cure to cancer, the world would be one gigantic hug. (im not hippy, conservative actually but the mentality behind these posts just floor me. )
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Now all they have to do is develop a slick media manager application like iTunes to connect the Pre to all the content, provide for backing up, and a transaction based store. Good luck Palm!
Now all they have to do is develop a slick media manager application like iTunes to connect the Pre to all the content, provide for backing up, and a transaction based store. Good luck Palm!
500,000, o rly? I am from July 2009 and the App Store that I buy apps for my iPod Touch for has 50,000 apps. What year are you from?
And Pre-school, really? I get it that you don't like the Pre for whatever reason, but that name really fails.
Yeah, these forums weren't like this when I joined a while back. It used to be filled with extremely helpful, informed people. Those people are still here, but the number of fanboys has skyrocketed. As a result, I spend a few seconds a day checking MR and then move on. It's sad really.
And these new posters won't come back under the same username. Next time they need to post they'll just make a new account.
Welcome to the internet, I guess...
Seriously? Who are you? I never understand the mentality of fanboys...blindly defending a brand/company that could care less about you and spreading BS that makes you look even more clueless.
Wow, the Pre has build problems...I guess your godly iPhone never had/have those right?
Also, nice that you have 500,000 apps to choose from...
Well kind sir, the Pre had almost two years to copy the iPhone (which they did, right down to the touch screen, app store, features, etc...). Since they hired a bunch of Apple guys, you would figure they would have released a much more polished and competitive unit! Don't be upset b/c the Pre isn't what Palm lead everyone to believe it was going to be! It's just embarassing for a company like Apple to be in the smartphone game for less than three years and hand someone's ass to them like Palm and Blackberry. You can't deny that Apple has raised the bar of what a phone should be and do! If you do deny it, you're living a lie. I'm not a fan boy, but I love products that have great UI and features, as well as, provide it's users with a true all-in-one multimedia gem! So keep telling yourself that Apple sucks and it's products are junk. Meanwhile, enjoy your Fisher Price Palm Pre!
Quit complaining about wading through crap on the AppStore
Anyone that spends time in front of iTunes looking at apps gets exactly what they deserve.
How do gamers keep up with with games? Game review sites of course. Just look at the number of extremely high quality game review sites around. When I buy a game I don't stand in the store reading the box, scratching my head, wondering if it is a game I would like. I find what I want on a gaming site and if I buy it locally I walk into the store pick up the box and walk to the register.
In the same vein, and kudos to Arn's foresight, I use sites like TouchArcade to keep up with games and AppShopper.com plus Pinch Media to keep abreast of all other apps. I have not tried looking for an app in Apple's AppStore in months.
Anyone that spends time in front of iTunes looking at apps gets exactly what they deserve.
How do gamers keep up with with games? Game review sites of course. Just look at the number of extremely high quality game review sites around. When I buy a game I don't stand in the store reading the box, scratching my head, wondering if it is a game I would like. I find what I want on a gaming site and if I buy it locally I walk into the store pick up the box and walk to the register.
In the same vein, and kudos to Arn's foresight, I use sites like TouchArcade to keep up with games and AppShopper.com plus Pinch Media to keep abreast of all other apps. I have not tried looking for an app in Apple's AppStore in months.
It really is amazing how anti-Apple everyone gets if someone says something positive about Apple. Yes yes, everyone uses apple products but no no no we're not fanboys. Just like all those people who watch alot of Star Trek and go to the conventions but aren't Trekkies or Trekkers. I'm wondering if on these boards 5 years ago was everyone talking about how Windows Mobile Phones and Palm Treos were the bomb and providing great competition for Apple?
a million in 3 days, but counting 2 weeks of presales!
You didn't mention a couple of things that the rest of us would consider here. #1 How many 1st gen iPhones were sold?
#2 this million sold in 3 days is kind of a stretch of the meaning of 3 days. There seemed to be a couple of weeks of pre-sale time involved with those 3 days, but I guess that just means that new math was used is counting to 3.
#3 Does the Pre have to kill the iPhone to be a success? If that was true we would have to say that the Mac is not a success because it only sells 10% of the micro computer market, which in no ways is it a Windows killer by numbers.
You didn't mention a couple of things that the rest of us would consider here. #1 How many 1st gen iPhones were sold?
#2 this million sold in 3 days is kind of a stretch of the meaning of 3 days. There seemed to be a couple of weeks of pre-sale time involved with those 3 days, but I guess that just means that new math was used is counting to 3.
#3 Does the Pre have to kill the iPhone to be a success? If that was true we would have to say that the Mac is not a success because it only sells 10% of the micro computer market, which in no ways is it a Windows killer by numbers.
Yes, Apple invented the touch screen, the concept of an app store and Palm copied the iPhone so closely that the Pre launch w/standard iPhone features such as copy and paste, MMS, GPS, multitasking, and a physical keyboard...
Lethal
I don't understand why people complain about things like this, and put down competition so harshly. The iPhone is great, but that doesn't mean people have to complain so much about other products. The basis of many new smart phones is similar to the concept that the iPhone started with. That is just how things work. Someone does it right, introduces a concept and other products follow, some falling short, some surpassing, sometimes a combination of both. I understand preferring a product over another, but to get in such heated debates about it (as opposed to a discussion). The serve the same purpose, so pick one and use it. You don't hate on people for driving another make of car, or using a different appliance.
I wouldn't mind getting a Pre once it launches on Bell Canada, but I will probably wait a bit for my current contract to expire and then re-evaluate what's available, especially since Bell is switching to GSM.
I wouldn't mind getting a Pre once it launches on Bell Canada, but I will probably wait a bit for my current contract to expire and then re-evaluate what's available, especially since Bell is switching to GSM.
That may be true but apart from iPhone and App Store functionality what have been the major drastic improvements between iTunes 7 and 8? I have a 5G iPod and iTunes 8.2 works perfectly. I don't anticipate any future iTunes being needed since there's not much they can do at this point!
New features get introduced at times. A lot of minor bug fixes and other things, but if you look back over the history of iTunes, new versions have brought new features. Maybe not so much in iTunes 7 v. iTunes 8, but added functionality such as movie rentals and that type of thing have been introduced requiring upgrading iTunes. I don't know what Apple has up their sleeve, if anything, but was rather suggesting that at some point in the future there may be a new feature you might like or want that would require an iTunes upgrade from 8.2.
I realize that this will be contrary to the newly coalesced opinion of the Macrumors hive mind, but does every company wanting to make a media player really need to make their own fully featured media store?Interoperability is evil? Hardware manufacturers now should have to be software manufacturers? Dell should have to make an OS? Frigidaire needs to make grocery stores?
And before anyone trots out the "Palm hacked it, blah, blah, blah," I know it was shady. I'm really just arguing for consumer freedom here, which everyone now seems to be against.
P.S. I realize this will likely trigger a storm of argument. I would like to like to remind everyone that the standard format for refuting someone's opinion on MR begins with "You analogy sucks because..." and ends with "
". I look forward to properly formated responses.
But there is no consumer freedom in the way that you interpret it to be. The consumers did not design, build and establish ownership of the products that they consume. You are only allowed the freedom that someone grants to you. You can't be free to use iTunes (someone elses property) any more than I am allowed to just go to your house and crash for a few days. That's not how things work.
I am thin and have thin fingers. I couldn't believe how small the keys were and I couldn't type anything accurately not to mention how slow typing was without any type of auto-correction! The keyboard has been the BIGGEST failure of the Pre in MANY reviews.
I can type 70 words per minute on my iPhone 3G and when I first got it it took me about 30 minutes to get to that level of typing!
I think it is quite funny that people rip on the iPhones keyboard and hail the Pre for being so cool and WITH A PHYSICAL KEYBOARD yet somehow Palm managed to make it far inferior to a touch keyboard lol.