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Palm Pre DEFINITELY KICK BUTTS (puts iphone on shame)!
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As much as i want to see Pre compete, if for no other reason than to assist light a fire under Apples ass, its still gonna be a 1.0 product...
Look at the G1 ... decent OS but horrendous (worse than iPhone) battery life
Blackberry Storm... decent hardware, badly implemented, ported OS
iPhone is now approaching version 3 of its hardware and software and still has a wish list as long as your arm.
But like i said .... i'm hoping competition will help drive innovation and avoid complacency
Look at the G1 ... decent OS but horrendous (worse than iPhone) battery life
Blackberry Storm... decent hardware, badly implemented, ported OS
iPhone is now approaching version 3 of its hardware and software and still has a wish list as long as your arm.
But like i said .... i'm hoping competition will help drive innovation and avoid complacency
Pre is 4x faster for web
According to these guys at CNET/UK, the browser is 4x faster than the iPhone. Even a video is shown.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39029453,49301558,00.htm
According to these guys at CNET/UK, the browser is 4x faster than the iPhone. Even a video is shown.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39029453,49301558,00.htm
At a guess the site is probably in the cache or stored locally on the phone. Do you believe the speed that apple shows on the adverts. I will believe it once it has gone in to production and is in use in real world scanerios.
Also of note:
AT&T is not struggling to retain customers like Sprint is, so they don't have to.
It's called supply and demand.
Please read carefully and quote better. They don't say the browser is 4x faster, they say that it loaded the page ~3-4x faster, but it could have been locally cached.
She has a grand total of 2 articles listed on CNET:
And as stated we don't know the cache.
And we don't know the webkit version (guarentee apple is going to be using the latest in 3.0, palm could be ahead of them in the sense they put the latest webkit in their os)
And we don't know the javacript on that page. (latest web kit trounces old safari benchmarks.
So long story short.
All the facts are not out there so to make statements like 4x is just plain foolish until all the facts are in.
AT&T is not struggling to retain customers like Sprint is, so they don't have to.
It's called supply and demand.
This is very true and very sad.
So far Sprint is the only ones that I know of that has 4G up and running on broadband cards and some other devices. They claim to be releasing a 4G (WiMax) enabled phone in late 09, but we'll see.
Besides their network, which is the best I have seen and used in the east coast, I don't know what could be causing so many customers to flee their service. I guess their customer services IS as bad as everyone says they are.
Wow, the Pre is like an exact carbon copy of the iPhone, except that it has a slide-out keyboard (and why isn't it a landscape keyboard?). I know everyone is copying the iPhone, but this is ridiculous. Same home screen, except that you have to touch some "launcher" button to actually show the apps (dumb). Same photo app, except that you can actually make folders (holy crap Apple -- Do ya see that? Do ya?!?! Now do it!) Same browser, right down to the pinching (I thought that was patented?). Almost the same exact specs.
It makes some improvements, but overall it isn't as slick. There's a lot to be said for just how good the iPhone's UI is. Plus, the iPhone hardware update will probably crush this thing.
It makes some improvements, but overall it isn't as slick. There's a lot to be said for just how good the iPhone's UI is. Plus, the iPhone hardware update will probably crush this thing.
I really hope you're being sarcastic. The only thing the Pre and the iPhone have in common is that they have multitouch.
One has a keyboard, the other doesn't.
Different cameras, one has flash
One has (supposedly will) push notification, one has background apps
One has a removeable battery, one doesn't
I'm happy with my iPhone, and I'm excited for the pre, but I don't see the pre being a copy of the iPhone. If you want to say that the iPhone paved the way for similar phones in terms of capabilities and touchscreen I would agree.
Really? That's the ONLY thing they have in common? Did you watch the videos? There are quite a few similarities.
I'd take usability over physical looks any day. From what I've seen of the Pre's OS, it looks vastly superior to what the iPhone is running as of right now plus it has far superior multitasking capabilities.
Whether or not the Pre actually works as good as it looks, I'll never know as long as it's with Sprint.
Although Palm showed too many of their cards too early I'd say, at least they have been able to generate some buzz to get Apple to step it up a notch. 3.0 should be interesting to say the least.
There's a big difference between phone's having similarities, and a phone being an exact carbon copy. I think there enough differences to separate the two, and enough similarities to say that the iPhone's design inspired the Pre.
There's actually a HUGE difference in the UI. The tech world is touting the Pre UI as being far superior and much more user friendly than the iPhone, and this is at the pre-release/demo level.
Just about every tech blog says it's multitouch is much more fluid and the extra gestures you can do at the bottom of the screen open up much more possibilities. All of this with a UI that mimics the Palm OS of yore much more than the iPhone (especially since the iPhone snatched it from Palm to begin with.
True multitasking comes to the smartphone with the Pre, and the Ui doesn't stutter or slow down.
There's really no way anyone could simply chalk the Pre up to "copying the iPhone" unless they aren't looking at the reviews/facts/previews.
You can love the iPhone without basing its first real competition with simple ill-conceived statements and one liners.
When you look at it, it's more of a design inspired by the Treo primarily the 655p and the Pro. Like a "if the treo had a touch screen and keyboard what would it look like" kind of thing.
And yes, there are far more differences that do separate the phones on the outside and inside.
Maybe, but Palm may definitely have to change their marketing. A lot of it was to be what the iPhone doesn't have. Now they lost that 'advantage'. Palm lost me after being a customer for 10 years. They simply waited about 5 years too long to come up with something out of the ordinary. I'm sure it will be a great phone alternative for all of the apple haters.
Or those that have good reason to skip on AT&T's poor network, crappy 3G service, lack of insurance for the iPhone, and crappy glass screen on iPhone.
Very glad that the iPhone will SOON have what we've all been waiting 2 years for, and that every other phone has had since day 1.
Palm Pre just got curb stomped.
Excuse the blatant fanboyism, I'm just so happy
No background tasks
No MMS
Still AT&T
No insurance
Nope, fanboyism still an EPIC FAIL.
iPhone is getting close, though, just think of the 3.0 update as Apple trying to catch up to Palm..... hence the reason it's not available yet, only announced.
And every other phone might in 2 years have what the iPhone has brought to the market
Insurance is a rip off, in the UK we have lots of wifi and fairly decent coverage now O2 has got off its behind after OFCOM went after them, and we're going to get our networks integrated probably with another cell provider too. And crappy glass? The touch screen is pretty decent. What's wrong with the glass?
So the iPhone gets features it's been missing? We seem to have survived thus far.