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Palm Pre DEFINITELY KICK BUTTS (puts iphone on shame)!
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I can see Palm now. Sitting in a corner rocking back and forth, tears streaming down their faces and the screens of their so-called "Pre-fect" device.
brothers, i SHOULD say that after watching the event i STILL THINK that PRE MAKES IPHONE LOOK LIKE 1999.
come on?
NO MULTITASKING. because you can drain your battery! well, i can drain my battery with a intensive task. Like one of the 1000 games on AppStore instead of 2 no-so-intensive tasks.
POPUP notifications? WHAT happens WHEN YOU receive more than ONE NOTIFICATION? ... well we have to wait for the first developer comments, but judging the outdated black springboard images & those popups PRE definitely KICKS BUTTS.
come on?
NO MULTITASKING. because you can drain your battery! well, i can drain my battery with a intensive task. Like one of the 1000 games on AppStore instead of 2 no-so-intensive tasks.
POPUP notifications? WHAT happens WHEN YOU receive more than ONE NOTIFICATION? ... well we have to wait for the first developer comments, but judging the outdated black springboard images & those popups PRE definitely KICKS BUTTS.
I think a lot of this *anyphone* vs. iPhone comes from us, not from the companies (except the Instinct).
I don't think that the pre's marketing has been a 'we can do this and the iPhone can't'. I think WE look at the similarities and differences and compare them, but I think the Pre has a solid platform for a phone, not just a platform that does things the iPhone couldn't.
Finally the iphone gets features it should have had from the start. Only 2 bad things about this update:
(1) no background apps
(2) EA is gonna nickel and dime the appstore to death.
Palm Pre still got it beat, though thank goodness for it otherwise Apple wouldn't have been forced to bring this out. Otherwise they would have through out a dancing Virtual Pet in your Music app or some lame **** like that.
(1) no background apps
(2) EA is gonna nickel and dime the appstore to death.
Palm Pre still got it beat, though thank goodness for it otherwise Apple wouldn't have been forced to bring this out. Otherwise they would have through out a dancing Virtual Pet in your Music app or some lame **** like that.
Dont carriers take care of insurance? (wouldnt know, i just got my first phone).
And isnt the pre exclusive to sprint?
And there is MMS
And every other phone might in 2 years have what the iPhone has brought to the market
Insurance is a rip off, in the UK we have lots of wifi and fairly decent coverage now O2 has got off its behind after OFCOM went after them, and we're going to get our networks integrated probably with another cell provider too. And crappy glass? The touch screen is pretty decent. What's wrong with the glass?
So the iPhone gets features it's been missing? We seem to have survived thus far.
Insurance is a rip off because _________ (you can put your proof there)
Maybe in the UK, but I am talking about AT&T.
Nothing is wrong with glass until it cracks.
Not questioning the survival. We all know that Apple products have great survivability even with lack of standard options.
Nice update to the iPhone, just not something that puts the Pre to shame just yet. Mainly targeting the fanboys that can't seem to give anything other than overheated puffery.
p.s. insurance is provided by carrier, Pre is exclusive to Sprint, which has gone 4G since 08 and although tanking in stocks offers much better plans and coverage, yes, MMS is available, I read that wrong.
That's circular, as it looks like Palm's Pre is a blatant attempt to catch up with Apple.
Web OS was announced in January.That's circular, as it looks like Palm's Pre is a blatant attempt to catch up with Apple.
And Firmware 3.0 still hasn't exceeded it yet.
That's circular, as it looks like Palm's Pre is a blatant attempt to catch up with Apple.
I think a lot of people are learning their first lesson in business. Competitive companies are ALWAYS in one of two states:
1) Revising their product to 'catch up' with the one that is depriving them of sales
or
2) Improving their product to stay ahead of the competition
The pre incorporated the things the iPhone did well, and then changed what they could to gain more customers.
Apple saw faults with their phone, that could be exploited by other companies and tried to fix them.
This isn't a knee jerk reaction to the pre, nor is the pre a copy of the iPhone. for both companies it represents their idea of gaining optimal market share.
The iPhone was available for sale two summers ago. IMO, that's what WebOS is a response to.
Oh, wait - I have an iPhone in my hand. That'll get the new OS for free.
Pray tell which is coming first - the Palm Pre, or my new free OS update?
You're not talking the Palm Pre, you're talking the "demo" of the Palm Pre - as people are talking about the demo of OS 3.0
The Palm Pre has no multitasking - because it's not on the market. You saw a demo of multitasking. At least the iPhone can do music in the background whilst you do other things on a handset you can buy today. Or actually use a fully functioning well stocked App store, with those 1,000s of apps the not on the market Palm Pre doesn't have as yet.
The Palm Pre - delivering currently a hypothetical butt kicking.
OS 3.0 for iPhone - A date this summer for Palm to BOGU.
We haven't even seen hardware updates for iPhone v3 yet. There are some nice features of the Pre. But does it have a killer lineup now? Or a >13 million following already? A fully stocked App Store? Killer graphics?
It stinks of misinformed, misguided fanboy in here.
I think I'll go get some air freshener..... brb.
I think I'll go get some air freshener..... brb.
Dude you better hope your company doesn't go under before the Pre is introduced, they are bleeding money.
FYI: hyperbole does not make your argument appear stronger, just the opposite, really.
With 3.0, the Pre lost almost all of its advantages over the iphone. Sure, you can dredge up background apps, but with the iphone having push notifications, you're really grasping at straws.
However, the iphone does have a huge advantage over the Pre: the app store. Even before this update, I would never leave the iphone unless and until some other company could do something even CLOSE to the app store. That's not fanboyism, it's being practical - probably fully 1/2 of what I use my iphone for relies on 3rd party apps. If I can't run Stanza, Air Sharing, iXpensit, Pace, AccuFuel, mSecure, Now Playing, Pandora, and Blackbeard's Assault (or equivalent apps that are just as good), just to name some favorites, I don't really care how many apps I can run in the background.
And with the 3.0 update... it's not even close.
From what I see in that list, and with other apps and on other's iPhones, it's between entertainment apps and iFart variations.
Not that the App store isn't an advantage, just that it will depend on what you need to do with your apps. From what I see, I still can't edit/open/save/send MS Office or iWork documents, so the App Store is useless to me.
And even with the announced 3.0 update, the Pre still has much more UI enhancements over the iPhone.
How on earth can you compare systemwide integration and backgrounding, to push notifications?
With Push Notifications you still have to open and close the app, there's no backgrounding. With the Pre you can have 2-30 things running at the same time if you want. How is that even close?
How do you think the Appstore got started in the first place? Through JAILBREAKING, I was one of those first folks with 1.1.4 AppSnapp jailbreaking that allowed all those games and ebooks and super apps back then when you folks bought the ******** from Apple about it slowing down the iPhone.
Apple never thought of an Appstore until renegede devs started showing them up, if they can do it on a closed system like the iPhone, then why not on a open system like the Palm Pre which is even more powerful?
Stop making all this stuff sound like Apple initiatives when they are mere reactions to avoid being embarrassed, whether it's from renegade devs or competing mobile carriers/ makers. It's all the same ****.
Funny how no one has actually seen WebOS in action yet aside from stills at a media event, and yet you already know it's superior.
Actually pre make the day on CES'09 and people an reviews have tried it. So IS NOT a currently hypothetical unless Apple drops a torpedo onto the factories building' it for summer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnlzbuLRwM
please, the web is all yours, google and all. i don't want to look stupid posting things that all people know for sure.
Apple still has a new iphone coming up it's sleeve, what does your company who is bleeding money have, they've already shown all their cards.
With backround you still have to navigate through that 2-30 apps to see if anythings new right?.....
With push theres is a badge or notification telling you that somethings new, so check it out.
I'd say if push works as intended they are pretty much equal (battery and CPU useage aside)