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I bet you Steve almost drowned in his own coffee when he saw this unfolding! Haha, better get your ass back to work!
 
This phone rocks. I own an iphone and watched the video demonstrations with the pre and I must say that this is the best competition to the iphone thus far. Hopefully, Apple will take notice and start improving on the iphone in ways other than offering useless apps (stocks, you tube,etc. ) and crap like google street view.

Gotta keep in mind that those are the original apps when the phone cost $499. At that price, you'd bet anyone at Lehman Brothers would've wanted it.

Besides, it's all eye candy. Google Street View is a nifty addition that adds value to the iPhone. Would prefer copy+paste over it, though.
 
Quite a few people did, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot more customers who would be considering an iPhone if their existing carrier had it. That's what I don't get with exclusive phones. There would be way more potential sales if it were universal.

Yeah that was my point... The iPhone was the first in this category that really blew the regular user away (the smart phone for the rest of us sort of thing) so it had people switching carriers. But there are many business,hospitals (not business in Canada) and people who can not switch carriers.

I am just saying, I think it was a calculated move as oppose to technical. Going with CDMA modem over GSM was wise.

As for all the hardware comparisons, I think like the computer market, the battle will be with software and 3rd party developers. If Apple had not opened the phone to developers it would of been just another cool gadget. But now they got a platform, thats the real difference.

Reminds me a lot of the old Apple vs PC days... Except Microsoft had a platform with developers and Apple had a better product.
 
Guys, we may all have iPhones, but PLEEAAASSSEEE don't get caught up in this idea that it is perfect... [trim] ...We can only hope this spurs Apple to innovate with the iPhone like Apple spurred the industry to innovate with its entry into the cell phone market.
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You sir, are my hero. I only wish there were more sensible people like you on this board. I really like Apple products, and I love my iPhone. But, thinking that just because a product comes from a particular company makes it better than another is just stupid. Especially when none of us have even TOUCHED the device yet.

The iPhone is very good, but it has issues. The Pre looks to be very good as well, as Palm isn't just some upstart phone company. But it will, undoubtedly, have issues as well. All products do. But if people can't can't see that great competition like this can only HELP all of us, then you really need to look harder.
 
well, this should keep apple busy at making the iphone better to stay ahead, even though i would still pick an iphone over this. but not everyone would though
 
Gotta keep in mind that those are the original apps when the phone cost $499. At that price, you'd bet anyone at Lehman Brothers would've wanted it.

Besides, it's all eye candy. Google Street View is a nifty addition that adds value to the iPhone. Would prefer copy+paste over it, though.

Definitely... I just had hoped that the iphone would have developed more by now.
 
Sharp looking device, won't replace the iPhone, as the market is quite large, but should be a good sell for Palm.

Glad to see Palm can still bring it!

And I believe the 399 price for listing, but I'm sure Palm will offer rebate bringing it down(my guess is 249.99)
 
He's also never tried to back up a 500 GB HDD that's full to an external. USB is ungodly slow for those kinds of things... but anyways that was off topic.

MMS is what people want. Most people aren't going to change their ways to get an iPhone, especially when there are alternatives that can do what they want. I really want voice dialing via bluetooth, (I would like to be able to do it from my headphones too).

Don

Don MMS will never be on the iPhone that's a dream you should putto rest now. Out of all the features people want MMS is hardly a top tier feature and if it is for you get a razr or something.
 
Some of you think the recent CPU buzz is for the iTablet, but the iPhone desperately needs more horsepower to do iChat AV, copy+paste, iGPS, and MMS, etc. Who'd need a netbook if it could do all these things, really?

No it doesn't.....it can play 3D game, it can damn well do copy/paste and MMS. Copy/paste is so easy, and MMS is the same.

This is not a CPU issue, its software!
 
gosh, what an innovative design. :rolleyes:

here's what I don't like about it (compared to the iphone):
- Sprint
- Gonna take a looong time for their app store to come close
- small(er) screen
- physical keyboard (I know some will like this, but to me, it adds needless bulk and slows typing)
- only 8 GB at this late date?

And perhaps more to the point, this launches during the first or second quarter of this year? Yeah, great, you're competing with an iphone that's been out since June. A couple of months after this is finally ready we'll see the next iphone, and palm will be playing catch up again.

It does have a lot of things going for it, but honestly, if apple would just add a few software features, the "Pre" wouldn't have anything at all on the iphone.
 
About time some else got it right (well hopefully they did) ! This phone looks very promising, and judging from the reviews its getting, I'd say it just might live up to the hype.

I love my iPhone, but there are things I wish it could do (just like most people out there). Obviously I havent used it, but looking at the pictures, the interface on this new Treo looks awesome, like they've really put some thought into it. Dare I say better looking than the iPhone? as far as the hardware itself, I know some people are saying its ugly looking, but I think it looks elegant, i kind of like the idea of using a trackball instead of just a button, its not too overdone, sort of a simple/clean design, sort of like an iPhone.

Like someone said before, hopefully this will push Apple to add features it should have been included from the get go.

Oh competition is a good thing.
 
Sorry, I can only award 1 a day, and he got it. Better luck next time. :D

Well, in that case:

THE iPhone totally rocks all cell phone there is and will never be defetead off the throne. For it shall rise untill all the competitors is blown away!

..at least, thats my opinion for the rest of the day..

- :apple: -
 
Considering this is a mac user site the fact that positives to negatives herein this site are 3/1 speaks for itself.

As an avid iphone user, and one who likes their phone a lot, I must say I am impressed by the combination of features, gui innovations and input innovatinos in this product. The only thing I despise is the name, jesus christ palm, sack these bums that work at your marketing department, you are making such a beautiful device and the BEST THEY COULD COME UP WAS PRE, SACK YOUR MARKETING. I mean pre as in what, pre-iphone, pre-computers, pre-iceage, this is supposed to bring connotations of advanced tec, something new and avant garde, pre conjures up images of something from the past...what come before (pre-game, pre-show) not the main course. Just call it post for god's sake or call it sdflkfd2340234 for all we care, but pre? Don't you guys feel the same way?

In any case the iphone is in desparte need of competition all the more so that the every increasingly customer deaf (mini hello? macbook firewire hello? matte screens hello?) peope at people start getting a few thigs right before we all have to jailbreak our iphones in order to get some much needed functionality. I mean the copy paste function is so old news, so many people over so long have been asking it, that it seems apple is spitting on our faces....

Well good for android, and palm's...oh man i can't say it...pre...for some welcome competition because it's very evident apple telephony are seating on top of plump cushions ignoring public demands and thinking they can do no wrong.

Think again.
 
Huh!

I bet you Steve almost drowned in his own coffee when he saw this unfolding! Haha, better get your ass back to work!

Perhaps when he saw all his and Apple's work repackaged by none other than his former employee and a crap company like Palm. I'm really surprised that this is even allowed the device is 90% rip off and about 10% decent design. Perhaps some of you are too young to see this and know the history.
 
Capable of turn by turn GPS from what I read. Got all the stuff the iPhone doesn't even have.
 
dude! the MMS is old..lets rock with the e-mail. I know that people aren't ready for that, just like people werent ready to let go firewire..as a teen it was hard first but i got used to it


I agree. MMS is just a cheap substitute for phones with interfaces incapable of sending email. Why would you pay more and send an MMS when you can send an email with no text limit? This is especially true since the iPhone makes it very easy to send an email right after you take a picture.

Back to the story, this phone is actually the first phone to impress me since the iPhone. Ironically, just yesterday, I told a friend that Palm was dead haha.
 
if this phone fails for sprint i think its over for them... then it will be ATT vs. verizon -dun-dun-dun...
c'mon big red..puckhead wants to retire early :p
 
Palm, late to the party again...

Or OTOH, just getting the party re-started. ;)

It looks OK but it's no iPhone killer. It's going to ship 6+ months from now and cost twice as much as an iPhone? Good luck with that. Apple will be well ahead with a major hardware and software revision by then, with many more apps, marketshare, mindshare, and developers.

What is the release date of the pre? If it's six months from now, I fully expect there to be something big announced in June that may steal a little, or all, of the pre's fire.

For us iPhone lovers, this is good. Palm just set a new standard for Apple to follow! Expect MMS and copy and paste on the next iPhone, maybe a better camera with video recording too. :cool:

YES YES YES. :D

Guys, we may all have iPhones, but PLEEAAASSSEEE don't get caught up in this idea that it is perfect. This phone gets alot of things right that the iPhone got wrong. Throwing up automatic defense that this phone is mediocre in comparison to the iPhone is akin to so many Blackberry and old Palm fanboys throwing up an automatic defense when the iPhone was released and claiming their phones were so much better, when they were, in all aspects, not. This is the phone (the Pre), if any, to light a fire under Apple's ass, because, damnit, they need it. Innovate with the iPhone; add what customers request; take out ridiculous roadblocks to developer innovation; stop making us wait! Even as what some would claim as an Apple fanboy (I own 3 iPods, 1 iPhone and Macbook Pro), I truly commend Palm for what they've done with this device. I'm truly in envy of this phone and thinking of switching just to get it. Let us not deny it guys: the Pre is hot hot sex. We can only hope this spurs Apple to innovate with the iPhone like Apple spurred the industry to innovate with its entry into the cell phone market.

Spoken TRUTH! Standing Applause! :D

All things Digital:

"The biggest unknown is price, which went unmentioned during the demo. My assumption is that Palm (PALM) would try to take market share by coming in significantly lower than the $200 or so Apple wants for its iPhone. But when I ran that theory by Palm CEO Ed Colligan , he looked at me liked I’d peed on his rug. 'Why would we do that when we have a significantly better product,' he asked, then walked away."

Daaaaaaayum, OWNED!!! :eek:

Some of you think the recent CPU buzz is for the iTablet, but the iPhone desperately needs more horsepower to do iChat AV, copy+paste, iGPS, and MMS, etc. Who'd need a netbook if it could do all these things, really?

Yes! Thank You!

I bet you Steve almost drowned in his own coffee when he saw this unfolding! Haha, better get your ass back to work!

ROFL! I imagined the same scene, exept he was choking on some toast. :D
 
Oh and btw, when I'm playing with my brand new revised iphone in late June, remind me that I'm going to make my first background the 'palm' logo as a sort of thanx for the boost. ;)

Go Palm GO!
 
Lastly,the wireless charger is pretty slick, I wonder why more company's haven't jumped on that yet.
Wireless charging is cool-- you just put a special plate on the back of your phone, put your phone in the dock, plug the dock into the wall and it charges.

Wait...

Attach a plate to the phone, phone in the dock, dock to the wall...

I'm sorry-- remind me where the cool is?
 
Don MMS will never be on the iPhone that's a dream you should putto rest now. Out of all the features people want MMS is hardly a top tier feature and if it is for you get a razr or something.

It is one of the top things people want. Next to voice dialing, and copy and paste. I could personally care less about MMS, I just want a real UI and copy/paste.

Don't go and assume that because I'm 14, I have my head stuck up my a**, and I spend my life texting my friends about a hot chick that I saw, and sending receiving obscene picture messages from my girlfriend (I wish). I've used the SMS app 3 times since I've had my iPhone. Each time I used it to see how many minutes I had left. All teens aren't twits.

Don
 
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