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Engadget reports that the palm Pre officially comes out June 6th

http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/19/palm-launching-pre-on-june-6th-official/

Much like when the iPhone and G1 were released, I will reserve judgment until I can actually use the OS and test out the device.

I was never really impressed by the G1, well compared to the iPhone OS, so it will be interesting to try out the Palm OS.

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themoonisdown09

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It says that the Pre starts at $199. That's the price after using a $100 mail-in rebate, so the Palm Pre actually starts at $299. Just an observation I made.

I'm also wondering how well the battery life will be considering it has background processes. I guess only time will tell.
 
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mavis

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Awesome! I wish they were heading to Japan as well. :(
 
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Kahnyl

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What's the point of rebates? I never hear of them in my country yet I hear of them a lot in the states. What's the difference between selling it for $299 with a rebate and just selling it for $199?
 
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JMax1

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What's the point of rebates? I never hear of them in my country yet I hear of them a lot in the states. What's the difference between selling it for €299 with a rebate and just selling it for €199?

Some people never mail in the rebate to claim their money back. This way they can say they sell it for less, but often pocket the difference. Kind of smart.
 
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themoonisdown09

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What's the point of rebates? I never hear of them in my country yet I hear of them a lot in the states. What's the difference between selling it for $299 with a rebate and just selling it for $199?

I'm not exactly sure, so don't quote me on this. I believe the reason for rebates is so that the retailer makes the same amount of money. Basically, you would buy the Palm Pre from Best Buy for $299. Then you would fill out a rebate form, mail it in and Palm would send you a check for $100.

Some people never mail in the rebate to claim their money back. This way they can say they sell it for less, but often pocket the difference. Kind of smart.

That probably has something to do with it too.
 
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fratboy

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i like how engaget says " poor apple " .. what i think they meant to say is poor palm.. they will have 2 days of excitment then will be SHUT DOWN .. by new iphone and iphone OS after wwdc people will be saying pre who?
 
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iGeRmAn

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Yeah...Finally....I wont get one,

but may mean that Apple leaks some more information or maybe a first picture to prevent some people from clicking preorder.
 
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i like how engaget says " poor apple " .. what i think they meant to say is poor palm.. they will have 2 days of excitment then will be SHUT DOWN .. by new iphone and iphone OS after wwdc people will be saying pre who?

It all depends on what the new iPhone will bring. I'm guessing that the iPhone will not be released at WWDC anyways, so the Pre will most likely have a little longer.
 
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clevin

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It says that the Pre starts at $199. That's the price after using a $100 mail-in rebate, so the Palm Pre actually starts at $299. Just an observation I made.

I'm also wondering how well the battery life will be considering it has background processes. I guess only time will tell.

Its not accurate to call it "background apps", they are not in the background that users may forget at all.

I heard the battery is solid, last full day with extra.

"background app" results in unacceptable battery is the twisted reasoning produced by apple and should be taken as a less than truth statement, since you can not ignore the fact that apple's iPhone OS is itself too big and not as slim as other mobile OSes, thus the battery problem might just be apple's own problem.
 

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It all depends on what the new iPhone will bring. I'm guessing that the iPhone will not be released at WWDC anyways, so the Pre will most likely have a little longer.

well if most of the rumors are true. video recording compass , FM , faster processor, better camera, faster internet,better camera, auto focus , plus all awesome stuff with 3.0 copy,paste, push, and TONS more... i think this iphone will have everyohne forget the pre..plus the appstore.. their is not even an sdk yet for the pre. while apple is making it possible for you in 3.0 to check your freaking blood pressure and send it to your doctor.... i mean come on.. iphone kILLS
 
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Post 1)i like how engaget says " poor apple " .. what i think they meant to say is poor palm.. they will have 2 days of excitment then will be SHUT DOWN .. by new iphone and iphone OS after wwdc people will be saying pre who?

Post 2) well if most of the rumors are true. video recording compass , FM , faster processor, better camera, faster internet,better camera, auto focus , plus all awesome stuff with 3.0 copy,paste, push, and TONS more... i think this iphone will have everyohne forget the pre..plus the appstore.. their is not even an sdk yet for the pre. while apple is making it possible for you in 3.0 to check your freaking blood pressure and send it to your doctor.... i mean come on.. iphone kILLS

Post 3) this is what everyone said about every other iphone KILLER... and the pre is a little to late in the game.... in the end i believe it will go down just like all the other iphone killers.

Translation = LOUD NOISES !111!!!@@!!!

I hate fanboys

You should realize that competition only makes things better for everyone.
 
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clevin

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well if most of the rumors are true. video recording compass , FM , faster processor, better camera, faster internet,better camera, auto focus , plus all awesome stuff with 3.0 copy,paste, push, and TONS more... i think this iphone will have everyohne forget the pre..plus the appstore.. their is not even an sdk yet for the pre. while apple is making it possible for you in 3.0 to check your freaking blood pressure and send it to your doctor.... i mean come on.. iphone kILLS
yeah, like everybody is taking pictures every day.

My centro has video recording, copy and paste, my zune has FM, which no iPod ever had? faster internet? can you be more blind in making these things?

since when a bunch of small features that have existed for AGES suddenly so shining that people will forget desktop level multi-tasking, multiple workflow without interruption, synergy?

at least be logical.
 
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themoonisdown09

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well if most of the rumors are true. video recording compass , FM , faster processor, better camera, faster internet,better camera, auto focus , plus all awesome stuff with 3.0 copy,paste, push, and TONS more... i think this iphone will have everyohne forget the pre..plus the appstore.. their is not even an sdk yet for the pre. while apple is making it possible for you in 3.0 to check your freaking blood pressure and send it to your doctor.... i mean come on.. iphone kILLS

I'm not a Palm Pre fan, but I'm just saying that if it performs as well as people are leading us to believe, it could take potential iPhone customers. A lot of the things you have listed will be on the Pre and have also been on a lot of other smart phones.

I do realize that the iPhone makes all these features look better, and Apple usually implements things in a more user-friendly way, but the point is: it's not new.
 
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rdowns

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What's the point of rebates? I never hear of them in my country yet I hear of them a lot in the states. What's the difference between selling it for $299 with a rebate and just selling it for $199?

As mentioned, many do not ever send in the rebate forms.

Also, when you have a rebate, you book the sale at the retail price, not the lower price after rebate. The rebate is considered a selling expense and thus, deductible on taxes. In short, better for their accounting.
 
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fratboy

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this is what everyone said about every other iphone KILLER... and the pre is a little to late in the game.... in the end i believe it will go down just like all the other iphone killers.
 
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clevin

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As mentioned, many do not ever send in the rebate forms.

Also, when you have a rebate, you book the sale at the retail price, not the lower price after rebate. The rebate is considered a selling expense and thus, deductible on taxes. In short, better for their accounting.
its better for me too.

sprint sometimes sent out erroneous rebate amount, I'm not confessing anything here, lets just say its very nice.
this is what everyone said about every other iphone KILLER... and the pre is a little to late in the game.... in the end i believe it will go down just like all the other iphone killers.

rather than making that kind of lame excuse, did you watched the video yourself?

every other iPhone killer? how many times in the past 5 years did you read gizmodo call something "simply amazing"? how about zerro? yep, they didn't use that even for iPhone.

iPhone killer? we will know when its available for ATT.
 
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themoonisdown09

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this is what everyone said about every other iphone KILLER... and the pre is a little to late in the game.... in the end i believe it will go down just like all the other iphone killers.

If anybody can create a real iPhone competitor, it's Palm. Everything is just hearsay until the Palm Pre and new iPhone are released though.

I don't think anything will come out, at least in the foreseeable future, that will be an "iPhone killer".

Again, I'm not crazy about the Palm Pre (I will be buying an iPhone this summer), but I encourage you to look at this hands-on review done by Engadget.
 
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fratboy

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yup we will just have to see. and to who ever said competition is good... i know this. competition makes apple make my iphone BETTER
 
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I'm not a Palm Pre fan, but I'm just saying that if it performs as well as people are leading us to believe, it could take potential iPhone customers. A lot of the things you have listed will be on the Pre and have also been on a lot of other smart phones.

I do realize that the iPhone makes all these features look better, and Apple usually implements things in a more user-friendly way, but the point is: it's not new.

I kinda hope the Pre does take some iPhone customers, if only because it'll put the pressure back on Apple, who's not going to just stand still and let them go. I think this years iPhone is going to focus on all the little things that have been missing, i.e. copy/paste, video recording, MMS, turn-by-turn, and maybe a few extras like video editing and such.

Next year is when I think we're going to see Apple releasing the next big step for the iPhone, hopefully a new UI that's better for multitasking and handling large amounts of apps, along with the hardware to run multiple apps. There's been talk of selective apps running in the background, and I think a year in the oven should be enough to get the kinks worked out.

Just my thoughts anyway.
 
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It says that the Pre starts at $199. That's the price after using a $100 mail-in rebate, so the Palm Pre actually starts at $299. Just an observation I made.

I'm also wondering how well the battery life will be considering it has background processes. I guess only time will tell.

Least we can hopefully have some decent stats from battery life and battery with background processes prior to WWDC - as long as we can get those with early access to one to try this out. That whole weekend is going to be pretty busy - Pre plus weekend WWDC buildup.

Anyone know if Mossberg, Pogue etc have had early access, or is it just Howard Stern so far? :p Will Engadget/Gizmodo etc be getting them earlier also?

Whilst Pre is only a few days before WWDC, it will (unless Apple amazes all of us and has a handset nearly ready already) have the high ground for a couple of weeks. Wonder what number they've manufactured for the 1st month, considering the prior rumors of a low ramp-up in production.
 
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