I live in the heart of LA and I drop calls constantly. Where I work I get no reception but everyone else does (Verizon and Sprint users), and there is a 5 mile stretch where I get 1 bar and no edge.
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Palm Pre to Launch June 6th Priced at $199.99
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I live in the heart of LA and I drop calls constantly. Where I work I get no reception but everyone else does (Verizon and Sprint users), and there is a 5 mile stretch where I get 1 bar and no edge.
They're smarter than people who worship a company blindly or who download[ed] things like iFart and I Am Rich anyway
Well, Microsoft did act like **** for 10 years thinking they could get away with it. People became frustrated and a lot of them switched to other platforms.
Apple screws up the consumer (see SlingPlayer, NetShare, non-WebKit browsers), implements features that existed on other smartphones with a 2-year delay and basically is an arrogant company nowadays thinking they can get away with it. How long do you think people will put up with this kind of attitude?
Hm. Still no proof or logic. Weird...
Missing the point. The point is not "how much time between introduction of the phone and introduction of the SDK", it is "how much time between the iPhone SDK and the Pre SDK". By the time the Pre SDK is introduced, there will be two years worth of applications written for the iPhone. So Palm will have an awful lot of catching up to do.
So what? There were ten years' worth of WM and RIM applications that the iPhone had to catch up to.
The point is, the time is finally ripe for mass adoption of smartphones. All can prosper in their own niche.
Evidently, according to some print documentation advertising I got in the mail yesterday (or was it the day before?) the Prē charges without wires, which means they use some kind of short-range induction system for doing that task. Can anyone confirm that?
I think the UI does look pretty good (particularly for a non-Apple product), and as I said before, what in the world would be my motivations for going with AT&T?
I think the UI does look pretty good (particularly for a non-Apple product), and as I said before, what in the world would be my motivations for going with AT&T?
There's an optional Touchstone charger.
The UI indeed looks great, that's because some ex-Apple employees worked on it
It's basically what the iPhone would have been without Apple's restrictions.
I'd be surprised if the sales curve on this thing (i.e. sales over time released) is half of what the iPhone was. My guess is it'll be 1/3 or so the sales.
Palm needs to introduce the phone on another network if they want it to be at all successful. IIRC Sprint is the only national carrier that LOST subscribers during the past few quarters.
Palm needs to introduce the phone on another network if they want it to be at all successful. IIRC Sprint is the only national carrier that LOST subscribers during the past few quarters.
There's an optional Touchstone charger.
The UI indeed looks great, that's because some ex-Apple employees worked on it
Ah ha! Ok, that's cool. Kind of pricey for a charger, but still... It would tend to mean a greatly-reduced number of mate/demate cycles on ports, etc. Let's see what the future holds, eh?
Well, the iPhone raised the bar. Anything that doesn't meet this bar (i.e. BB Storm) gets **** on by critics and public with the simple comment "It doesn't do XYZ as good as the iPhone".
The iPhone has kept its appeal because it has remained consistently approachable not to mention the unsung teammate/hero "iTunes". iTunes is likely more responsible for the iPhones extended success than any other feature that the phone has rolled out since its inception.
Even with the Pre and Storm 2 and HTC platforms on the horizon, it is hard to get excited about new options when new options aren't necessarily in demand (i.e. people are happy with the iPhone).
I agree, I think the Blackberry was ahead of its time. Though I must say, as a BB 8330 user, the RIM interface has room for improvement.
+1. I'm not dissing either the iPhone or the Pre, my only point was that the graph linked to in my last quote was a bit distorted, based on the release dates of the products in question.
I agree about iTunes playing a major role - it's certainly true that there are other options available to handle it (supposedly), but with iTunes popularity and ease of management it's a no-brainer.
I can't wait for the reviews and the early impressions to come out.
The sliding keyboard doesn't excite me, because I like the virtual keyboard. However, I'm curious about the battery life with the background function. Also, I'm also curious about its responsiveness.
I like my iPhone, but that doesn't mean I can't be curious about what's out there.
The sliding keyboard doesn't excite me, because I like the virtual keyboard. However, I'm curious about the battery life with the background function. Also, I'm also curious about its responsiveness.
I like my iPhone, but that doesn't mean I can't be curious about what's out there.
This is a perfect example of the positive benefits to the consumer of competition. All of our cell phones -- even the so-called "dumb phones" -- improve because of the presence of such products as the iPhone, as well as it's reasonably popular implementation of various specific functions.
It's not so much that I totally disagree with you on this point, but rather I think you've the shoe on the wrong foot. iTMS is designed to leverage certain key features of the iPhone, one of which is application deployment. The fact that people can buy music and videos straight off their iPhone is almost an after-thought. I'm not saying it isn't important, but more that it has its place.
With this I absolutely agree. A really good parallel to this would be the whole "digital hi-def tv" situation of the past several years. It's not that high-definition video broadcasts are undesirable -- and how can you argue with the quality once you've seen it -- but this wasn't something the general public wanted. This is something that was foisted upon the general public as a result of the actions of the players in the broadcast industry trying to fight the FCC, and this whole situation goes back to the 1980s. Anyhow, getting back on the point of this post and this thread, the main reason I think for the popularity of competing devices -- the Android, the Prē, the still-born OpenMoko, etc. -- goes beyond the mere featureset or user experience of the iPhone. There are other practical basis for it, such as wanting background processing, push capabilities, or telnet/ssh type stuff, or a different carrier... In other words, it's not necessarily a rejection of the iPhone as a physical device, but how Apple is delivering it.
I'll give you a couple examples. A friend of mine looked at getting an iPhone but needed AIM to be able to work at all times. He wanted to be able to run some background apps, and he needed a terminal capability so he can get into some of the servers he runs to do work when he's out and about. Secondly, let's look at me. I don't necessarily need those features, but what I do need is carrier independence (well, at least independence from AT&T) and I also want the iPhone delivered as a CDMA device. Clearly, Apple is going to do neither of those things (certainly not any time soon) and so the iPhone is just not an appropriate solution for me. But if they offered it through Sprint, I'd jump at the chance to get one.
Obviously I'm not going to commit to buying a Prē until I know totally what it's like, how the UI is, how it renders web pages, are there any limitations or restrictions thus far unpublished, etc. But for the moment at least, and nearly sight-unseen, I'm seriously considering it as my next cell phone.
I've had a Blackberry now for 3 months and I'm beginning to think more and more than no background apps is fairly lame. I would hope if Apple does it it would also revise how to show what is running and also how you are able to switch to it. Because RIM does a terrible job of easily letting you switch apps (unless there's some trick I don't know).
